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Jetblast

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Jetblast,

To paraphrase what you're saying: If you make more you should pay more.

That line of thinking is straight out of the Communist Manifesto.

Nice try, ghost of Joseph McCarthy! That kind of logical fallacy is straight out of Mein Kampf.

Always best to cite your sources if you're going to make extraordinary claims and avoid paranoid sounding rhetoric.
 

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@mystreba:

Then add in the states tax, and that's another can of worms.......I think the flat taxers said that if everyone paid a 13% income tax, the government would be swimming in black ink in notime. Not an entirely bad idea.

But it still smacks of socialism.......
 

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The rich have a way of STAYING rich, no matter what societies through the ages have done to try and make it not so.

Or in the case of Donald Trump and a few others, losing it all and building up again several times. Hasn't he been bankrupt like 4 or 5 times? Yet he continues to recover and rebuild his wealth.


The nice thing about America is that you can always try your own hand at the businessman/woman thing. Nowhere on Earth was it easier than here.

Not sure I agree with that anymore. There are a few countries now whose tax structure makes it a lot easier to start and operate a business. I can't remember them now, but I recently heard a list and we were number 4 or 5 on it.

But, the tax system is making it harder and harder, like mystreba said, but like I also said, there are other factors making it really difficult. Once it gets so hard, many who would have say "why bother" - we are doomed as a society.

True. My wife is in the early stages of starting a new business and I keep thinking to myself "this'll last until she see's what a nightmare taxes are going to be next year.", and that doesn't even include having medical insurance, which she has through my job. I hope she's successful. I'd like to retire for a while:smile:, but I just don't see it lasting once she sees what a hassle it is. I've had several ideas for starting a business, but just do not want the headache of dealing with gov't regs and taxes.
 

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Anatomy of every political discussion on the internet:

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Each paying an equal proportion is socialist? In what way?

the 'each according to their ability' part. That's why it just smacks of it.......it's not to-the wall socialism....:wink:
 

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Nice try, ghost of Joseph McCarthy! That kind of logical fallacy is straight out of Mein Kampf.

If you want to be taken seriously you'll need to turn up the logic, cite your sources if you're going to make extraordinary claims, and turn down the paranoid rhetoric. Otherwise I can tune in Glenn Beck/hit myself in the head with a hammer.

Well, I really wasn't trying to pick a fight, but I guess I hit a nerve. Truth hurts does it? Or do you just really not know that what you said echoes Marx and Lenin? Read Lenin and Marx and you'll find your logic all through their works. Mein Kampf? Seriously? Veiled allusions to capitalists who recognize Communist theory when they hear it, and pointing it out as such, as being Nazis is not very mature and shows you have no logical argument against what I said. By the way, Nazis were socialist, a very close cousin to communism. They were in no way a free enterprise system.

I'm sorry, I really didn't intend this to turn into an argument. I should have kept my mouth shut about the fair tax. I'll just ignore your posts from now on unless they have something to do with lawnmowers or landscaping. Maybe we can agree on those things at least.
 

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I may be misquoting, but I believe it was Margaret Thatcher who said :
"Socialism works GREAT until you run out of other peoples' money."

Social justice has never worked because eventually the people who are having their money taken decide they would rather take for a while ! :rolleyes:

How many people work FOR someone who has less than they do, and expect to get paid well ???? :confused3:
 

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@BKBrown:

Well said. :thumbsup:
 

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Nice try, ghost of Joseph McCarthy! That kind of logical fallacy is straight out of Mein Kampf.

Always best to cite your sources if you're going to make extraordinary claims and avoid paranoid sounding rhetoric.

Excellent!
What happened to the Glen Beck reference? Should have left it in...... Can I use that?
 
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