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[Bison]

No solution is perfect, but ALL Canadians have health care, and at a fraction of the cost of our health care (measured in terms of individual procedures, or in total as % of GDP). I'm curious about your statement that if you need help fast you can go to a private clinic. Can you just go to a private clinic and pay (either out-of-pocket or with supplemental insurance) for a procedure that is COVERED under the national health plan? ps - Thanks, Tommy Douglas and Saskatchewan, for bringing us Medicare![/QUOTE

All canadians have health care.Yep,that is if you can find a GOOD family doctor with room for, and wants to take on new clients,most won't cause they have already 50.000 people to take care off)

The Doctors that have room for new patients i would not even let him/her look at my dog .

Try to go see your doctor,average waiting time 3 months,often longer,referal to a specialist another 3 months if you're lucky.Oops, only a short 10 min consultation,( ah what the h3ll,i drove only 600 mls one way to see you):tongue:
Next appointment for some tests 6 months down the road,get call,re scheduled 2 more months
Stick it up yours.
Go find a private clinic and pay yourself before the money goes towards your funeral.
Health care wont pay for it(not all anyway) unless they direct you to a private clinic.

I aint kidding here

 

[twall]

Try to see a doctor in the US if you don't have health insurance. ER is it. And they charge you for the pleasure of waiting in the chair BY THE HOUR........(sarcasm.........)

No HI? Just you freakin TRY to get just a checkup! I would wait no longer than you, my friend.......(or no less)....there are no doctors in the US accepting patients on a cash-only basis.

Let's just all die and get this problem over with.

I have no health insurance. As much as you Canuks would like to butt your opinions in our business, I'd rather have freakin SOMETHING than NOTHING. Every debate I hear, there is a Canadian spouting off about how me having something would be the downfall of mankind. The Right loves that blather. But, oddly enough, you have the strength and the health to comment on US national airwaves......odd indeed if you truly ARE in such dire need of medical attention!

You don't like what you have? How'd you like it before? Did you have nothing? If you were a greedy pig, and just wanted more for less, than you are not me. I have nothing now. I have not seen a doctor for a checkup in 20 years. I can't "talk to my doctor" about anything! I go to a clinic for an infection....the doc says he wants to see me again about my blood pressure.......until I telll the floozie at the desk I have no HI.....then all bets are off.......so stop interfering with me getting a little bit of something! It's better than a whole buncha nothin!

 

[mystreba]

All canadians have health care.Yep,that is if you can find a GOOD family doctor with room for, and wants to take on new clients,most won't cause they have already 50.000 people to take care off)

The Doctors that have room for new patients i would not even let him/her look at my dog .

Try to go see your doctor,average waiting time 3 months,often longer,referal to a specialist another 3 months if you're lucky.Oops, only a short 10 min consultation,( ah what the h3ll,i drove only 600 mls one way to see you):tongue:
Next appointment for some tests 6 months down the road,get call,re scheduled 2 more months
Stick it up yours.
Go find a private clinic and pay yourself before the money goes towards your funeral.
Health care wont pay for it(not all anyway) unless they direct you to a private clinic.

I aint kidding here

Yeah, I get that you have to wait. We do here also, but maybe not to the extent you are describing. I had a torn meniscus, was in great pain. One week to see the general practitioner. Three months to see a specialist. Six months to schedule the arthroscopic surgery.

But you didn't answer my question. Can Canadians go to a private clinic to pay for procedures that are covered by national health care? I was under the impression that it was forbidden to do that. For example, say you need arthroscopic knee surgery - covered under the national plan. If you don't want to sit on the waiting list, can you just go to a private clinic and pay cash (or use private supplemental insurance) to have the procedure done?

 

[mystreba]

Try to see a doctor in the US if you don't have health insurance. ER is it. I have no health insurance. ... I have not seen a doctor for a checkup in 20 years. I can't "talk to my doctor" about anything!

This is absolute moral bankruptcy. No one in a developed nation should go without health care. Emergency rooms are not healthcare!

EVERY U.S. citizen should have adequate health care.

 

[twall]

"let the poor suffer and die - they can't pay their way anyhow".........is that the kind of mantra we'll live by in the USA? Then get the hell off my back, Govt, since I 'don't matter' anyhow. If health is not a right, NOTHING is. I repeat: NOTHING. Just temporary privilleges that can be yanked away at will by an authoritarian leader........(or several).

 

[twall]

This is absolute moral bankruptcy. No one in a developed nation should go without health care. Emergency rooms are not healthcare!

EVERY U.S. citizen should have adequate health care.

AMEN!!!

As I said above, if health (as far a science can provide it) is not a right, then NOTHING is.

 

[Bison]

Try to see a doctor in the US if you don't have health insurance. ER is it. And they charge you for the pleasure of waiting in the chair BY THE HOUR........(sarcasm.........)

No HI? Just you freakin TRY to get just a checkup! I would wait no longer than you, my friend.......(or no less)....there are no doctors in the US accepting patients on a cash-only basis.

Let's just all die and get this problem over with.

I have no health insurance. As much as you Canuks would like to butt your opinions in our business, I'd rather have freakin SOMETHING than NOTHING. Every debate I hear, there is a Canadian spouting off about how me having something would be the downfall of mankind. The Right loves that blather. But, oddly enough, you have the strength and the health to comment on US national airwaves......odd indeed if you truly ARE in such dire need of medical attention!

You don't like what you have? How'd you like it before? Did you have nothing? If you were a greedy pig, and just wanted more for less, than you are not me. I have nothing now. I have not seen a doctor for a checkup in 20 years. I can't "talk to my doctor" about anything! I go to a clinic for an infection....the doc says he wants to see me again about my blood pressure.......until I telll the floozie at the desk I have no HI.....then all bets are off.......so stop interfering with me getting a little bit of something! It's better than a whole buncha nothin!

Hey man, don't get your pantys in a knot.
I was poking sarcasme at our own Canadian health care system,not yours.
It don't matter if you pay for it or not if one can't access it.

I have no doctor either,i cant get one.I havn't seen a doc in 30 yrs.
Only my Wife has a Doctor,they have given her the run around for the last 3 years,that was what my post was about.

 

[Bison]

Yeah, I get that you have to wait. We do here also, but maybe not to the extent you are describing. I had a torn meniscus, was in great pain. One week to see the general practitioner. Three months to see a specialist. Six months to schedule the arthroscopic surgery.

But you didn't answer my question. Can Canadians go to a private clinic to pay for procedures that are covered by national health care? I was under the impression that it was forbidden to do that. For example, say you need arthroscopic knee surgery - covered under the national plan. If you don't want to sit on the waiting list, can you just go to a private clinic and pay cash (or use private supplemental insurance) to have the procedure done?

Yes,plenty people that don't want to wait and have the money do it.
I paid a private clinic to do a CSVI scan on my daughter who has MS,our FFed up system refused to do the scan.

 

[Bison]

AMEN!!!

As I said above, if health (as far a science can provide it) is not a right, then NOTHING is.

Since when should health be a right??
You're either lucky.. or you're not.

 

[mystreba]

Since when should health be a right??
You're either lucky.. or you're not.

I tend to agree with you that it's not a right. But I view it more in terms of a moral obligation - in a developed nation, every citizen should have access to health care.

I sympathize with your situation. I've been denied tests as well. Unfortunately no system is perfect - in any economic system, decisions will have to be made. Sometimes they're right, and sometimes they're wrong. That leads to a two-tier situation where those with means go outside the system to get what they want.

We have a three-tiered system. Two-tiers as described above, and a fairly large third tier who have nothing at all.