LTH 130 electrical problem

trooper1954

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Hi ....I have a LTH 130 that I'm in the process of getting to run. The mower is in good condition, but after a few minutes running it will not power up even the slightest incline. I have been told that this may be due to the hydrostatic pump, or even just a change of hydraulic oil would solve the problem. Curious to find out what you guys think? Also, the battery currently shows a charge of 13.6V, but when the key is turned the voltmeter on the dash does not move, and the motor does not turn over...not even a click. Any one that can give me some troubleshooting tips would be greatly appreciated.
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The first thing I would check on the drive problem is the belt and drive belt idler pulley. A worn belt and/or an idler pulley that does not move freely is a common cause. Here is a procedure to diagnosis your electrical problem.



Electrical problems can be very easy or very difficult, depending on four things.
1. * How well you understand basic electricity.
2. *What tools you have and know how to use.
3. *How well you follow directions.
4. *You don't overlook or assume anything and verify everything.

Remember we cannot see what you are doing. *You are our eyes, ears and fingers in solving this problem. *You must be as accurate as you can when you report back. *The two basic tools we will ask you to use are a test light and a multi-meter. *If you have an assistant when going through these tests it would be very helpful. *These steps work the best when done in order, so please don't jump around. *Now let's solve this problem.

First, check the fuse(s), check battery connections for corrosion (clean if necessary) and *voltage - above 12.5 volts should be good.*

Second, check for power from the battery to one of the large terminals on the solenoid. *One of the wires is connected directly to the battery and has power all the time so one of the large terminals should light a test light or show 12 volts on a meter at all times.*

Third, *check for power at the small terminal of the solenoid while depressing the clutch/brake pedal and holding the key in the start position (you may need an assistant to sit in the seat to override the safety switch). If your solenoid is a four wire solenoid, check both small wire terminals as one is ground and the other is power from the ignition switch. *If your solenoid is a three wire solenoid, make sure the solenoid body is not corroded where it bolts to the chassis of the mower as this is your ground path back to the battery. *If in doubt, remove the solenoid and clean the mounting area down to bare metal. *If there is no power to the small terminal then your problem is most likely a safety switch, ignition switch or in the wiring.*

Fourth, check for power on the other large terminal of the solenoid while holding the key in the start position (you may need an assistant to sit in the seat to override the safety switch). *If you have power what is the voltage?

Fifth, check for power at the starter while holding the key in the start position (assistant again). *If you have power what is the voltage?

Sixth, check your ground circuit back to the battery.

After you have gone through each of the above steps, let us know what happened when you did each step. *At that point we will have great info to tell you how to proceed. *Remember you are our eyes, ears, and fingers, so please be as accurate as possible.

Be as specific as possible with voltage readings as this will help diagnose your problem quicker. *If you do not know how to perform the above checks, just ask and I will try to guide you through it. *Youtube also has some videos and as you know a picture is worth a thousand words.
 

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Thanks Rivetts...will follow to the letter:smile:.....one question I have is where to find the fuse(s)...I've followed wires but cannot seem to find any?
I'll report back with my findings.....thanks.
 

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Usually on the red wire that goes to the ignition switch
 

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Haven't managed to start the procedure yet but while poking around trying to find the fuse, I tried to start the motor again and got a whirring noise...battery showed 12.7 v so I'm thinking the battery is shot and perhaps has no cranking amps? Should I replace the battery and try again, or just proceed with the diagnostics outlined above? BTW, the cluster of wires located behind the ignition switch does NOT contain a fuse, despite what the manual says.
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If the spinning sound is coming from the starter, no need to go through the entire procedure at this time. Just the first step. I understand no fuse, but I suspect that you have a loose and/or corroded connection somewhere. After the battery I would check the connection where the negative cable is attached to the chassis. Let us know what you find.
 

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Just an update...the battery was checked and was low on cranking amps, so I've got a new battery that's just been put on charge. When it's re-installed I'll find out if I still have a starting issue, and if so will carry out the diagnostic tests and report back.
Thanks for your patience and help.
 

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Further update....new battery hooked up....same problem....whirring noise when key turned on. Power between the two positive red cables in and out of the solenoid reads 13.2 both sides...have to wait for the wife to test the voltage between the small wires on the solenoid. Have attached pics.....where on the starter (2nd photo) should I place the black voltmeter tester to get a reading?
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No need to check the control wires.
If the starter spins they are fine.
Pull the cowl off the engine and watch the starter pinion / gear.
I suspect that it is not meshing with the flywheel.
A simple fix, gear and the bendex drive ( the bit that makes it go up & drop back ) are replacement service items.
 

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***Pull the cowl off the engine and watch the starter pinion / gear.
I suspect that it is not meshing with the flywheel.***

Thanks....could you maybe direct me as to where I'll find the starter pinion /gear....do I have to take the starter apart to see this?
Thanks
 
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