First oil change at 18 hrs!!

[Brucebotti]

And there a few blown engines. Most people know what to do, but... Hilarious story. I'm at my local lawnmower shop getting some parts, and a guy had his brand new walk behind he had bought from Home Depot. It was locked up. The service writer checked the oil, and it was dry. He asked if oil was put in it, and the guy said yes. He then asked where he put it, and the guy pointed to the air filter! And it gets better. The customer said he had this issue with THE FIRST mower he bought, and got Home Depot to replace it.

And this shows that people in general, do the wrong thing sometimes. The Code of Federal Regulations title 49 states that flammable or combustible liquids(I don't quite know which one of these categories oil falls into, but clearly it's one of them) must be shipped in their "primary containers", and that means in the bottle/can, not an engine.

Mini Motors,
That is a hilarious story, but sad at the same time. Its amazing how many people I see that are so intelligent, yet they should not be allowed near any type of equipment...:laughing:
Bruce

 

[Mini Motors]

According to table 172.101 of title 49, there is no distinction between used and unused. "Petroleum oil" and "Petroleum Crude Oil" are both class 3 hazardous materials.

Now I don't doubt that these machines have shown up at your doorsteps with oil installed. I take you at your word. What I'm saying is that if these truly came across state lines by any carrier, it was done illegally.

 

[Brucebotti]

According to table 172.101 of title 49, there is no distinction between used and unused. "Petroleum oil" and "Petroleum Crude Oil" are both class 3 hazardous materials.

Now I don't doubt that these machines have shown up at your doorsteps with oil installed. I take you at your word. What I'm saying is that if these truly came across state lines by any carrier, it was done illegally.

Mini Motors,
This is getting really interesting. FedEx Freight was the carrier that delivered my mower. Having worked there, I know that they would never knowingly violate or "skirt" any laws. I have bought and sold "classic" cars over the years that were delivered in enclosed transporters. Their instructions said to ensure that their was fuel in the car so that they could be loaded and unloaded. They also said that nothing other than paperwork (title, registration, etc) was to be shipped within the vehicle. They were also specific in saying no containers.

Probably have to be a lawyer to interpret the laws:laughing:

Thanks for "educating me,
Bruce

 

[Mini Motors]

I don't doubt that Fedex, UPS, and especially USPS wouldn't allow this, or any other illegal shipment to happen if they knew. And I'll bet cars come under a whole different set of rules. Makes sense that they need to run to get in and out of the trailer, enclosed or not.

 

[Rivets]

According to this website the USPS has determined that new and used lubricating oils as non-hazardous.

Shipping Requirements - Used Oil Samples Not Considered A Hazardous Waste Shipment

 

[Brucebotti]

,Don't want to sound anal about this but I was talking to the guys at the Co-op and they suggested getting the break in oil out by at least 20 hrs if not sooner. So I bit the bullet and bought 2 qts of Kohler 10w-30 oil. Now I can tell you this, the oil that came out was red colored. Not like I put back in. Also the filter wasn't exactly the same either. The oem one was bigger and had bigger oil holes in it. The one I installed had smaller oil flow holes except one which was bigger. Must have been a universal filter.
Anyway, 2qt's spilled on the floor :ashamed:When drain hose fell off and 2qts in and new filter and also installed a pre filter on the ac, so I'm ready for another 25 hrs or so.

I know dj I said I was going to run Pennzoil but the Kohler Oil seems like it's pretty good stuff so I just stuck with it, for now anyways.

TnHusky,
Sorry for really helping to get your original post off track. You're probably on your second oil change by now...:laughing:
Bruce

 

[benski]

I've got a first hand story about oil and oil changes, which is completely off topic here, but here it goes. I was driving up a mountain pass on one of the interstate freeways here, and came upon a woman standing beside her 2 year old Suburban, smoking alongside the road. The Suburban was smoking, too, so I took a look. The cooling system was hot, but not leaking, so I checked the oil. There was a small blob of tar stuck to the end of the dipstick. I asked, "When was the last time you changed or checked the oil in this thing?" She replied with a straight face, "Well, it had oil in it when I bought it."