Safety Seat Switch on Kubota T-2290
- Thread starter DWSarow
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You need to check wiring diagram, as the seat switch may have more than one function. You also get a clue if the connector has more than 2 wires. For example, the PTO clutch may need the seat switch activated. Is the grand daughter mature enough to run the machine? Bypassing the seat switch makes it easier to run over yourself... You might think about tweaking the seat spring so she can activate the switch.
Auto Doc's
Lawn Addict
Hello D.,
I understand the ambitions that come with youth, but it also comes with innocence. They do not understand safety until they get hurt. It is reckless to let them "learn these lessons the hard way."
Never disable any safety switches and put a child on a machine. That can (and often does) lead to serious injury or death of someone you love.
Sorry, it is not the answer you want to hear, but it is one that you need to hear. Accidents don't happen on purpose.
Ethically, as a technician and due to liability, I have to make sure all safety switches are operational before I can release any piece of equipment back to a customer. If they decide to bypass or hack the wiring later, it's on them. I have gotten to a point that I document these conversations and take before and after pictures to protect myself as a professional.
For future reference, do not ask us on this site how to bypass safety switches or devices.
I understand the ambitions that come with youth, but it also comes with innocence. They do not understand safety until they get hurt. It is reckless to let them "learn these lessons the hard way."
Never disable any safety switches and put a child on a machine. That can (and often does) lead to serious injury or death of someone you love.
Sorry, it is not the answer you want to hear, but it is one that you need to hear. Accidents don't happen on purpose.
Ethically, as a technician and due to liability, I have to make sure all safety switches are operational before I can release any piece of equipment back to a customer. If they decide to bypass or hack the wiring later, it's on them. I have gotten to a point that I document these conversations and take before and after pictures to protect myself as a professional.
For future reference, do not ask us on this site how to bypass safety switches or devices.
Thanks for quick reply guys . I'm not putting my Grandaughter in any kind of harm.She is a very mature 15 year old Women with her temps for driving a car.Since she is so light,that's the stutter we're getting.Driving a simple lawn mowing hones her skills.Confidence in different situations on different machines will make her a better car driver in the future.Now you know why I asked a simple question on this site.If your familiar with this machine,it has a forward and a reverse pedal,if one of these aren't pushed,the machine doesn't move.If she moves to get off,feet off pedals,it's all good.Wiggling and having the engine shut down,I don't believe means safety.
I'm here to ask,read,discuss and decide.
I'm here to ask,read,discuss and decide.
If she's 15, she ought to be able to hold the seat down. I would check that the seat moves freely, and there isn't something blocking it. I can normally press on the seat with my hand and activate the switch. Check the switch and make sure it's not damaged. I didn't think we were talking about a child, but anyone older should not have a problem.
Auto Doc's
Lawn Addict
Have you ever seen someone get off of a mower and then push one of the directional pedals trying to figure out why it was not moving with the tip of their foot as expected?
Hmm?
I have, and it was a close call that would have been a serious injury. Luckily, it was just a bad scare with the rider (person) pinning their foot until it could be shut down and lifted off of them.
Basic rule is that a machine has no regard, respect or feelings for the operator. It just knows to operate as commanded without feeling.
When I was younger, I trusted a "faithful"/ fateful Farmall H one time that I thought was out of gear when I hit the start button while standing beside it. The tranny was hung in reverse even though the shifter moved freely like it was in neutral.... If not for a fence post behind the tractor catching a shredder that was attached, it would have swung around and ran me over. Luckily, I was able to pull the coil wire while it was fighting the fence post.
My key point is: Do not override or bypass any safety devices.
Hmm?
I have, and it was a close call that would have been a serious injury. Luckily, it was just a bad scare with the rider (person) pinning their foot until it could be shut down and lifted off of them.
Basic rule is that a machine has no regard, respect or feelings for the operator. It just knows to operate as commanded without feeling.
When I was younger, I trusted a "faithful"/ fateful Farmall H one time that I thought was out of gear when I hit the start button while standing beside it. The tranny was hung in reverse even though the shifter moved freely like it was in neutral.... If not for a fence post behind the tractor catching a shredder that was attached, it would have swung around and ran me over. Luckily, I was able to pull the coil wire while it was fighting the fence post.
My key point is: Do not override or bypass any safety devices.
Tiger Small Engine
Lawn Addict
So if you have an older (20 year plus) rider with all the safeties bypassed, do you rewire it so the safeties are operational before returning it to customer? Do you call them before doing this so customer knows cost involved? I understand all about liability. I see safeties bypassed sometimes, so I am asking.
StarTech
Lawn Royalty
One way is to have a customer sign a release acknowledging that they are responsible for injures and damage that occur due to their bypassing safeties. But I prefer to restore safeties too, note that equipment came with disabled, and the safety system was restored so if it gets bypassed again my A is covered.
I done had one insurance company trying to recover damages from for a accident that a mower was never in my shop until the accident.
Some DIYer installed the wrong safety switch that disabled the seat switch whenever the deck was engage. The customer was mowing his when tree dragged him off the mower. The mower just keep on cutting grass until it ran into his wife brand new car. Then there hell to pay. At least it didn't run a kid or pet.
BTW a kid has no business operating dangerous equipment and includes mowers, chainsaws, and other lawn care equipment.
And in my area I done had one kid kill from a reverse safety being disable. The guy back up over the toddler. Another lost a good portion of her foot where Daddy throw-ed the mower in reverse and mowed the kid's foot without even looking back. Then panic happen. Now the kid will be handicapped the rest of her life. Lucky she not dead from massive blood lost.
I done had one insurance company trying to recover damages from for a accident that a mower was never in my shop until the accident.
Some DIYer installed the wrong safety switch that disabled the seat switch whenever the deck was engage. The customer was mowing his when tree dragged him off the mower. The mower just keep on cutting grass until it ran into his wife brand new car. Then there hell to pay. At least it didn't run a kid or pet.
BTW a kid has no business operating dangerous equipment and includes mowers, chainsaws, and other lawn care equipment.
And in my area I done had one kid kill from a reverse safety being disable. The guy back up over the toddler. Another lost a good portion of her foot where Daddy throw-ed the mower in reverse and mowed the kid's foot without even looking back. Then panic happen. Now the kid will be handicapped the rest of her life. Lucky she not dead from massive blood lost.
Auto Doc's
Lawn Addict
If a machine comes to you with safety switches bypassed by the customer, make a note of it on the repair order, but don't change anything. They usually don't want to put the safety switches back into service anyway.
Anything on a repair order that deals with the wiring, or safety has to be documented and accurate. I've seen too many customers have "failing memory" because they bypassed a safety switch.
I have endured and won 4 court cases in the past because I had good documentation.
I've also had customers get mad because I will not bypass any safety switches. I will not contribute to their negligence.