Z335m wont turn over
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The solenoids can go bad. Set the brake, make sure the PTO switch is off, and have someone hold the key in the start position. Check voltage at the small wire on the solenoid. This is the exciter wire. If you're getting voltage at the small wire on the solenoid, and the solenoid doesn't click, then the solenoid is bad. If no power at the small wire, then there is an issue in the safety/cranking circuit.
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The EZ series secure the ground strap to a protruding engine mounting bolt.
The nut holding the ground strap regularly comes loose because it is very hard to get at.
So check this
I habitually replace it with a longer strap that will go to a bolt further back that is easier to get a spanner onto
The nut holding the ground strap regularly comes loose because it is very hard to get at.
So check this
I habitually replace it with a longer strap that will go to a bolt further back that is easier to get a spanner onto
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Jrod
his is how the forum works
You present with a problem & we provide possible causes or solutions if the problem is obvious
If not obvious we ask you to do easy little tests then get back with the results
No one suggested changing any part & we never will till the fault has been identified.
Now Joe is about the most clued un JD guy I have come across & I can bumble my way through.
We have both asked you to do simple easy tests which you have either not bothered to do or have done but not bothered to inform us of the results .
Until I get a reply I don't bother wasting any more of my time & Joe seems to be the same & as he works at a dealership, right now he would be very busy.
Generally and again in this case I suggest that JD owners purchase the JD technical manuals which are written in such a mannar they make "opening garden gates for Dummies " look complicated
Them manual would have cost less than the parts that did not need replacing that you have just wasted your time replacing.
Now if you have posted to a lot of other forums then you probably got lot of rubbish answers telling you to replace various parts which are the pet problem of the poster but most of the responders on this site are either full time techs , retired techs or owners who know how to diagnose problems properly .
Ball is now in your court
his is how the forum works
You present with a problem & we provide possible causes or solutions if the problem is obvious
If not obvious we ask you to do easy little tests then get back with the results
No one suggested changing any part & we never will till the fault has been identified.
Now Joe is about the most clued un JD guy I have come across & I can bumble my way through.
We have both asked you to do simple easy tests which you have either not bothered to do or have done but not bothered to inform us of the results .
Until I get a reply I don't bother wasting any more of my time & Joe seems to be the same & as he works at a dealership, right now he would be very busy.
Generally and again in this case I suggest that JD owners purchase the JD technical manuals which are written in such a mannar they make "opening garden gates for Dummies " look complicated
Them manual would have cost less than the parts that did not need replacing that you have just wasted your time replacing.
Now if you have posted to a lot of other forums then you probably got lot of rubbish answers telling you to replace various parts which are the pet problem of the poster but most of the responders on this site are either full time techs , retired techs or owners who know how to diagnose problems properly .
Ball is now in your court
Bert, I’ll give it a try and if I get the same answers as you, I’ll be out of here.
Jrod, your last post is unacceptable and inappropriate to someone who is trying to help you, but I’ll give you one more chance to help yourself. Here is a troubleshooting procedure which I have found works for me and many others on this forum. If you really want our help read it carefully and post back with results to each step. That way we can see what you are dealing with. Without results, not I did the tests, no one will have the info needed to help and you’re on your own. As said, the ball is now in your court.
Electrical problems can be very easy or very difficult, depending on four things.
1. How well you understand basic electricity.
2. What tools you have and know how to use.
3. How well you follow directions.
4. You don't overlook or assume anything and verify everything.
Remember we cannot see what you are doing. You are our eyes, ears and fingers in solving this problem. You must be as accurate as you can when you report back. The two basic tools we will ask you to use are a test light and a multi-meter. If you have an assistant when going through these tests it would be very helpful. These steps work the best when done in order, so please don't jump around. Now let's solve this problem.
First, check the fuse(s), check battery connections for corrosion (clean if necessary) and voltage - above 12.5 volts should be good. Check and make sure the chassis ground is clean and tight.
Second, check for power from the battery to one of the large terminals on the solenoid. One of the wires is connected directly to the battery and has power all the time so one of the large terminals should light a test light or show 12 volts on a meter at all times.
Third, check for power at the small terminal of the solenoid while depressing the clutch/brake pedal and holding the key in the start position (you may need an assistant to sit in the seat to override the safety switch). If your solenoid is a four wire solenoid, check both small wire terminals as one is ground and the other is power from the ignition switch. If your solenoid is a three wire solenoid, make sure the solenoid body is not corroded where it bolts to the chassis of the mower as this is your ground path back to the battery. If in doubt, remove the solenoid and clean the mounting area down to bare metal. If there is no power to the small terminal then your problem is most likely a safety switch, ignition switch or in the wiring.
Fourth, check for power on the other large terminal of the solenoid while holding the key in the start position (you may need an assistant to sit in the seat to override the safety switch).
Fifth, check for power at the starter while holding the key in the start position (assistant again).
Sixth, check your ground circuit back to the battery.
After you have gone through each of the above steps, let us know what happened when you did each step. At that point we will have great info to tell you how to proceed. Remember you are our eyes, ears, and fingers, so please be as accurate as possible.
Be as specific as possible with voltage readings as this will help diagnose your problem quicker. If you do not know how to perform the above checks, just ask and I will try to guide you through it. Youtube also has some videos and as you know a picture is worth a thousand words.
Jrod, your last post is unacceptable and inappropriate to someone who is trying to help you, but I’ll give you one more chance to help yourself. Here is a troubleshooting procedure which I have found works for me and many others on this forum. If you really want our help read it carefully and post back with results to each step. That way we can see what you are dealing with. Without results, not I did the tests, no one will have the info needed to help and you’re on your own. As said, the ball is now in your court.
Electrical problems can be very easy or very difficult, depending on four things.
1. How well you understand basic electricity.
2. What tools you have and know how to use.
3. How well you follow directions.
4. You don't overlook or assume anything and verify everything.
Remember we cannot see what you are doing. You are our eyes, ears and fingers in solving this problem. You must be as accurate as you can when you report back. The two basic tools we will ask you to use are a test light and a multi-meter. If you have an assistant when going through these tests it would be very helpful. These steps work the best when done in order, so please don't jump around. Now let's solve this problem.
First, check the fuse(s), check battery connections for corrosion (clean if necessary) and voltage - above 12.5 volts should be good. Check and make sure the chassis ground is clean and tight.
Second, check for power from the battery to one of the large terminals on the solenoid. One of the wires is connected directly to the battery and has power all the time so one of the large terminals should light a test light or show 12 volts on a meter at all times.
Third, check for power at the small terminal of the solenoid while depressing the clutch/brake pedal and holding the key in the start position (you may need an assistant to sit in the seat to override the safety switch). If your solenoid is a four wire solenoid, check both small wire terminals as one is ground and the other is power from the ignition switch. If your solenoid is a three wire solenoid, make sure the solenoid body is not corroded where it bolts to the chassis of the mower as this is your ground path back to the battery. If in doubt, remove the solenoid and clean the mounting area down to bare metal. If there is no power to the small terminal then your problem is most likely a safety switch, ignition switch or in the wiring.
Fourth, check for power on the other large terminal of the solenoid while holding the key in the start position (you may need an assistant to sit in the seat to override the safety switch).
Fifth, check for power at the starter while holding the key in the start position (assistant again).
Sixth, check your ground circuit back to the battery.
After you have gone through each of the above steps, let us know what happened when you did each step. At that point we will have great info to tell you how to proceed. Remember you are our eyes, ears, and fingers, so please be as accurate as possible.
Be as specific as possible with voltage readings as this will help diagnose your problem quicker. If you do not know how to perform the above checks, just ask and I will try to guide you through it. Youtube also has some videos and as you know a picture is worth a thousand words.
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You know that but we don't know that
and we need the results in order to work out what to do next
There is more but no one here wants to write a 200 page service manual for your mower when responding to a post.
We do try to keep answers short & clear so at a latter date others with similar problems can read & understand what was done .
No one is here to annoy or belittle you , those types of sub-humans inhabit face book & you tube and are not tollerated on here .
Similarly we do not tollerate being on the receiving end of abuse either