Troybilt Pony - B&S 17hp Starting Problem

[Fish]

With a large set of pliers, pull the choke shutter out, and rotate the choke shaft until the lever is on the other side, then re-install.

 

[bertsmobile1]

Are you sure that the vendor is really B & S ?
AFAIK B&S do not retail directly they wholesale to their dealers who retail to the public.
As for buying off Amazon / Ebay
have said it 1,000 times but no one seems to listen.
A 10 year old can set up an ebay/amazon shop that looks like they are a long times experienced major dealer the flog off trash they have bought as scrap metal.
In 7 years as a technican who buys from real aftermarket companies ( Stens, Rotary Prime Line & Oregan ) the only things that have caused me grief were;-
Fuel taps that had neoprene seals, a 25 pack replaced without question
Honda gear change springs that broke, again replaced without charge ( slight delay on them )
Chain Saw bar with lamellar fracturing, the batch was recalled & replaced
And that is for around $ 300,000 worth of parts

Why people play parts roulette on ebay & Amazon for the sake of a few dollars is some what beyond belief.

 

[KenH99]

Are you sure that the vendor is really B & S ?
AFAIK B&S do not retail directly they wholesale to their dealers who retail to the public.
As for buying off Amazon / Ebay
have said it 1,000 times but no one seems to listen.
A 10 year old can set up an ebay/amazon shop that looks like they are a long times experienced major dealer the flog off trash they have bought as scrap metal.
In 7 years as a technican who buys from real aftermarket companies ( Stens, Rotary Prime Line & Oregan ) the only things that have caused me grief were;-
Fuel taps that had neoprene seals, a 25 pack replaced without question
Honda gear change springs that broke, again replaced without charge ( slight delay on them )
Chain Saw bar with lamellar fracturing, the batch was recalled & replaced
And that is for around $ 300,000 worth of parts

Why people play parts roulette on ebay & Amazon for the sake of a few dollars is some what beyond belief.

Didn't play roulette. Amazon listing clearly states from "Briggs & Stratton". The carb is stamped w/same and box is as shown in the pics.

 

[KenH99]

With a large set of pliers, pull the choke shutter out, and rotate the choke shaft until the lever is on the other side, then re-install.

Please clarify what you mean by "choke shutter"?

 

[bertsmobile1]

Didn't play roulette. Amazon listing clearly states from "Briggs & Stratton". The carb is stamped w/same and box is as shown in the pics.


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Briggs was not the vendor
Read the description carefully
It says it s an OEM part & replaces 796109
IT does not say that it WORKS

Lots or parts out there that should have been scrapped end up being sold on line.
If it came from the same factory then it is "genuine & OEM"
however if it came from the same factory in a truck load of defective parts that were supposed to be pulled apart & melted down it would still be " genuine & OEM "

Unless it says "Shipped by B & S or Sold by B & S "in the side bar, it has come via another vendor.

 

[KenH99]

Briggs was not the vendor
Read the description carefully
It says it s an OEM part & replaces 796109
IT does not say that it WORKS

Lots or parts out there that should have been scrapped end up being sold on line.
If it came from the same factory then it is "genuine & OEM"
however if it came from the same factory in a truck load of defective parts that were supposed to be pulled apart & melted down it would still be " genuine & OEM "

Unless it says "Shipped by B & S or Sold by B & S "in the side bar, it has come via another vendor.

"It says it s an OEM part & replaces 796109"

The B&S website parts lookup gives the same info. the 796109 has been replaced with this part number. It's the correct carb.

"Unless it says "Shipped by B & S or Sold by B & S "in the side bar, it has come via another vendor."

Maybe you're unfamiliar with the practice of manufacturers stocking items with/at Amazon for order fulfillment, a quite common practice. Just because Amazon fulfills an order does not mean it's not authentic. In fact, this particular item's Q&A section has answers from Amazon's verified name badge "Manufacturer". I strongly doubt that B&S would be answering questions on a different vendor's listing.

In any case, my guess is either someone in the factory let a broke carb get past QA, or a returned carb got placed back into stock.

 

[KenH99]

Update

Went on Amazon Thurs. and set up a return/exchange for the defective carb. They immediately began the ship process of a new carb. Dropped the return off at local Kohls yesterday. Received the new one around 11am today. That's custromer service.

Installed the new carb. The choke was just a little short of fully closing. Loosened the cable and really forced the cable back, it moved maybe 1/16th inch. That was enough. Reattached everything. Opened fuel line (added a shutoff and new filter) and the damn thing fired off first try. Let it run about 15 mins. Throttle works fine. Ran smooth at any speed.

As suggested earlier will change the oil again (2nd time) after I buy more.

Hopefully, this thing will do fine for a while. It better with the all the $$ I've put into it with new blades, tires, coil and carb.

Sincerely appreciate everyone's help!

 

[Scrubcadet10]

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