Still trying to get the mower deck right

[MParr]

Not you for sure. I don’t know why I keep following this thread, but it has gotten so bad I have to warn others not to use anything you suggest to do. The part #57 you call a bolt and washer is just a specific type of bolt with NO separate washer. It is called a Tower Lawn & Garden Equipment Head Bolt, with a part number of 817000616. I’ve posted a picture of the proper bolt. After rereading this entire thread I believe that most of the parts you are using NON OEM replacement parts. I say this because I asked about replacement parts and numbers, and you convienently failed to post them. Changing the belt size because you feel they posted the wrong size is just plain stupid. You have constantly said that info others have posted and part diagrams are wrong. The members who have tried to help you have far more experience than you and with the age of this unit, I doubt that the parts diagram is wrong, as that would have been updated years ago. I know you think you know more than me, but that doesn’t take a lot of knowledge to do. What I do know is I must warn people about how wrong the info you post is. You’re not even a DIY guy, just a hack who has more time, money and attitude to be dangerous to others who may run into a similar problem in the future.

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I've already suggested that he "call the man."
Other than that, I'm done.

 

[JimP2014]

The bolt is not in question by me. Where that spacer goes IS IN QUESTION BY ME. I am using "the bolt" as a frame of reference. The bolt is fine.

I found "the bolt" to be: "Tower Lawn & Garden Equipment Head Bolt 817000616" <--- I came to the same conclusion as you did. This has nothing to do with my question.

My question is and I can use part #'s here also:

Is the order:
Order A
1.) Part # 57 Tower Lawn & Garden Equipment Head Bolt 817000616
2.) Part # 56 - Husqvarna Spacer Retainer 532199092
3.) Part #55 - Lawn Tractor Blade Idler Pulley Arm 531169401

Order B
1.) Part # 57 Tower Lawn & Garden Equipment Head Bolt 817000616
2.) Part #55 - Lawn Tractor Blade Idler Pulley Arm 531169401
3.) Part # 56 - Husqvarna Spacer Retainer 532199092

Order A is the way I have it and also Repair Clinic
Order B is the way the Sears Parts Catalog has it.

This is the question, I have no clue how you came to the conclusion or wasted your time to point out Part # 57 Tower Lawn & Garden Equipment Head Bolt 817000616 is the bolt needed. I 100% agree you are correct, this has nothing to do with what I am asking.

The question is, order A or order B <---- this is the question right here.

I know all of the parts, I am asking about the "ORDER OF ASSEMBLY"

Jim
P.S. Identifying the parts needed is the first step, the second step is order of assembly.

 

[farmerdave1954]

Holy cow! I can't believe I just sat here and read through all 9 pages of this thread going back over a week! JimP2014, I do believe you now hold the record for the longest single, unpunctuated sentence I have ever read. Up until post #60 I don't believe I saw a single punctuation mark, and few capital letters. #60 was beautiful. It would have gotten you an A+ on a college writing exam. This lack of punctuation makes your posts extremely hard to read because we don't know when you leave one sentence and start another. The reader has to try to figure out what you are saying and decode your post. At a minimum you need to use periods at the end of a sentence, and capital letters for the first word of a sentence. A few appropriately located commas would also help the meaning of what you are writing come through a little better. Rest assured you are NOT the only one that does this, you are just the one that put me over the top and made it necessary for me to call your attention to it. Otherwise I would never be able to sleep tonight.

But, that aside, it seems to me that you are in over your head with this project. I do applaud you for trying, though. It's just a simple mower deck. There are only a few things that can go bad on them. Bearings are probably number 1, belts break, pulleys wear out, bolts break, belt tensioning springs break, bent metal on a bracket, and occasionally a weld will break. Your problem with the belt length is probably because you are trying to put the "too short" ones on without releasing the spring tension on the belt tensioning pulley. The wobbling pulley after you just tightened it is probably because you didn't have the square shoulder on the bolt aligned with the square hole, so once you started using it, the vibration caused the bolt to rotate where the 2 shapes aligned, and then the bolt popped into place, causing it to be loose. It should not be hard to find the case of that wobbling. I can absolutely assure you this: Using duct tape on a mower deck ain't gonna fix it.

Like Rivets, I'm bugging out of this tread. I can't take any more of it. It reminds me of a tech I had working for me years ago when I was a desk-bound tech support guy for all the field techs at a telephone company. Occasionally, while on a customer's site he would call in for help and tell me all the problems he was finding, asking me questions and trying what I suggested, eventually getting to the point that we were just going in circles and nothing was making sense. It finally dawned on me that he wasn't trying what I was suggesting, he just told me he did to get me to move on to another possibility. After half an hour, he'd suddenly be the hero when he would "find" the problem and fix it. Turned out, there never was a problem, he just described symptoms so he could keep me running in circles, hoping to not have to run another service call for a couple of hours. It took me exactly 4 of these calls to catch on to his game. I'm ashamed to admit it took that long.

I wish you good luck. I'm going to bed.

 

[JimP2014]

Holy cow! I can't believe I just sat here and read through all 9 pages of this thread going back over a week! JimP2014, I do believe you now hold the record for the longest single, unpunctuated sentence I have ever read. Up until post #60 I don't believe I saw a single punctuation mark, and few capital letters. #60 was beautiful. It would have gotten you an A+ on a college writing exam. This lack of punctuation makes your posts extremely hard to read because we don't know when you leave one sentence and start another. The reader has to try to figure out what you are saying and decode your post. At a minimum you need to use periods at the end of a sentence, and capital letters for the first word of a sentence. A few appropriately located commas would also help the meaning of what you are writing come through a little better. Rest assured you are NOT the only one that does this, you are just the one that put me over the top and made it necessary for me to call your attention to it. Otherwise I would never be able to sleep tonight.

But, that aside, it seems to me that you are in over your head with this project. I do applaud you for trying, though. It's just a simple mower deck. There are only a few things that can go bad on them. Bearings are probably number 1, belts break, pulleys wear out, bolts break, belt tensioning springs break, bent metal on a bracket, and occasionally a weld will break. Your problem with the belt length is probably because you are trying to put the "too short" ones on without releasing the spring tension on the belt tensioning pulley. The wobbling pulley after you just tightened it is probably because you didn't have the square shoulder on the bolt aligned with the square hole, so once you started using it, the vibration caused the bolt to rotate where the 2 shapes aligned, and then the bolt popped into place, causing it to be loose. It should not be hard to find the case of that wobbling. I can absolutely assure you this: Using duct tape on a mower deck ain't gonna fix it.

Like Rivets, I'm bugging out of this tread. I can't take any more of it. It reminds me of a tech I had working for me years ago when I was a desk-bound tech support guy for all the field techs at a telephone company. Occasionally, while on a customer's site he would call in for help and tell me all the problems he was finding, asking me questions and trying what I suggested, eventually getting to the point that we were just going in circles and nothing was making sense. It finally dawned on me that he wasn't trying what I was suggesting, he just told me he did to get me to move on to another possibility. After half an hour, he'd suddenly be the hero when he would "find" the problem and fix it. Turned out, there never was a problem, he just described symptoms so he could keep me running in circles, hoping to not have to run another service call for a couple of hours. It took me exactly 4 of these calls to catch on to his game. I'm ashamed to admit it took that long.

I wish you good luck. I'm going to bed.

Nice.

What are your thoughts on this?
Order A
1.) Part # 57 Tower Lawn & Garden Equipment Head Bolt 817000616
2.) Part # 56 - Husqvarna Spacer Retainer 532199092
3.) Part #55 - Lawn Tractor Blade Idler Pulley Arm 531169401

Order B
1.) Part # 57 Tower Lawn & Garden Equipment Head Bolt 817000616
2.) Part #55 - Lawn Tractor Blade Idler Pulley Arm 531169401
3.) Part # 56 - Husqvarna Spacer Retainer 532199092

 

[Rivets]

Here is the reassembly order I suggest you follow.

1. Admit that I’m smarter than those on this forum who have tried to help me. This is because I don’t understand what they are saying and don’t need to answer their questions. Even smarter than those who produced the parts diagram.
2. Admit that I’m in over my head.
3. Load the deck and all parts into your truck and “call the man” in your area who is smarter than us and you.
4. Go see him and ask him to put everything back into running condition.
5. Pay him what he asks and inform him he is smarter than everyone on this form.
6. Take it home, install on the tractor and enjoy the rest of the summer.
7. Delete this forum from your browser,

 

[JimP2014]

Here is the reassembly order I suggest you follow.

1. Admit that I’m smarter than those on this forum who have tried to help me. This is because I don’t understand what they are saying and don’t need to answer their questions. Even smarter than those who produced the parts diagram.
2. Admit that I’m in over my head.
3. Load the deck and all parts into your truck and “call the man” in your area who is smarter than us and you.
4. Go see him and ask him to put everything back into running condition.
5. Pay him what he asks and inform him he is smarter than everyone on this form.
6. Take it home, install on the tractor and enjoy the rest of the summer.
7. Delete this forum from your browser,

I have considered your suggestion on numerous occasions, the man I want to see is 15-20 miles away. He IS THE MAN. "4 of the mans" have left locally, they all had thriving biz, featuring sales and services, they are all GONE. HD, Lowes ect has replaced them. THE MAN told me it would cost me maybe $150 either round trip or one way, I forget just to see the thing. He would need to pick it up. Or I could throw the deck in the back of a pickup, but I do not have a pickup. There are mobile mechanics. But what is needed is someone with "extreme small engine/the rest of the rig experience" AND do it over a smartphone like facebook maybe not facebook, but similar. If they told me, "I will help you and my rate is $30 / .5 hrs, I would do that" . This service from what I can tell does not exist, but should.

Rivets go make a mil!

Jim

 

[JimP2014]

I have considered your suggestion on numerous occasions, the man I want to see is 15-20 miles away. He IS THE MAN. "4 of the mans" have left locally, they all had thriving biz, featuring sales and services, they are all GONE. HD, Lowes ect has replaced them. THE MAN told me it would cost me maybe $150 either round trip or one way, I forget just to see the thing. He would need to pick it up. Or I could throw the deck in the back of a pickup, but I do not have a pickup. There are mobile mechanics. But what is needed is someone with "extreme small engine/the rest of the rig experience" AND do it over a smartphone like facebook maybe not facebook, but similar. If they told me, "I will help you and my rate is $30 / .5 hrs, I would do that" . This service from what I can tell does not exist, but should.

Rivets go make a mil!

Jim

Rivets you motivated me to do the right thing stay tuned.

Jim