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Stihl ms 170 vs ms 171

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mikehouse

mikehouse

I have very little need for a chainsaw,but i'd rather have and not need.....I'm getting 1 or the other.Leaning towards the 171.Reason: placement of tension screw.As small a saw as i'll need,it shouldn't matter,but in a pinch,if i needed to adjust the chain tension,it'd be quicker and easier from the side as opposed to in the front of the 'saw.Comments?


#2

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bertsmobile1

The side adjustments are a lazy man innovation and as such prone to failure.
I pull a lot of them out and fit a standard front screw because the gears are buggered .


#3

Hammermechanicman

Hammermechanicman

I have had a 170 for about 15 years and got it used. Got rid of the 043 chain and bar and put a 050 on it. Little thing will probably last forever and is older Stihl design easy to work on.
Flippy caps vs twisty caps
Front chain adjust vs side chain adjust
Every single part for the 170 is available aftermarket if that is a concern.
Either saw great for limbing and trimming. Keep chain sharp or will be unhappy with either. I use mine up to 6 inch stuff. Bigger than that gets the 361 or ported 660.


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ILENGINE

Agree with getting rid of the 043 chain and bar. I hate that chain. Just doesn't seem to hold up well for cutting in hardwoods. The chain is easy to twist the link when making loops from a roll. To make thinks even better this year there is a 325 version of the 043 that will be used on select Stihl and Husqvarna saws. Takes a special chain, bar and sprocket set to make it work. good news is all brands of saws will be using the same components.


#5

mikehouse

mikehouse

Well,like i said i really don't have a burning needfor 1,but this Poulan i have is a p.o.s.
Upon my researching these,i subscribed to an experienced chainsaw guy saying "if you are being sold a chainsaw wirh fronr adjustment,run"!!!
I like his vids btw.


#6

Hammermechanicman

Hammermechanicman

Those Sears, Lowes and many other Poulans are the cock roach of chainsaws. They are everywhere and they won't go away. Hate those things.


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ILENGINE

Those Sears, Lowes and many other Poulans are the cock roach of chainsaws. They are everywhere and they won't go away. Hate those things.
Actually they are going away since Husqvarna has left the consumer box store market supposedly last year. The have moved their focus to premium handheld and Z turn mowers under their own name. Although the Poulan Pro chainsaws still seem to be appearing at Menards, etc.


#8

Hammermechanicman

Hammermechanicman

I get those pooped on pro saws in all the time for rotten fuel lines, swollen fuel caps, bad carb, the 10% ethanol fuel left in the saws ruins the fuel system.


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ILENGINE

I get those pooped on pro saws in all the time for rotten fuel lines, swollen fuel caps, bad carb, the 10% ethanol fuel left in the saws ruins the fuel system.
In my area it is looking like Jonsered may be taking the place of the Poulan Pro saws.


#10

Hammermechanicman

Hammermechanicman

I remember when poulan used to be good stuff then the Electrolux debacle. Like the troy bilt MTD thing. Seems like everytime a brand name changes owners the product goes to manure. I think companies just buy brands for the name and then sell trash on brand recognition till buyers wise up then sell it to someone else. Many manufacturers are trying to win the race to the bottom.


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ILENGINE

Just look at the big mower manufacturer companies and how many other companies they have purchased and then discontinued the name. Looks at how many companies MTD own, or Husqvarna, or Toro, or Briggs. And then at how many of those brands that those companies own that are farmed out to other companies. Toro's consumer push and riding mowers are farmed to MTD. Briggs owns Snapper and Murray, but the Walmart units are made by MTD, Almost to the point that MTD makes all the consumer box store mowers.


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bertsmobile1

I remember when poulan used to be good stuff then the Electrolux debacle. Like the troy bilt MTD thing. Seems like everytime a brand name changes owners the product goes to manure. I think companies just buy brands for the name and then sell trash on brand recognition till buyers wise up then sell it to someone else. Many manufacturers are trying to win the race to the bottom.

It all comes down to a gross failure in the free marketing system.
To work properly it requires that the market ( consumers ) are fully informed.
However now days the average purchaser has no idea how to evaluate a product, a skill that has largely been lost due to "Work" becoming pushing buttons & life swiping on a phone screen.
Once you are no longer able to asses a product on quality, longevity & ease of service there is little left but colour, brand recognition, price & recommendation .
And now day unfortunately the latter has been taken up by the pig ignorant group of sub human morons loosly termed "informers" who strangely enough are mostly big brested girlies with a strong sexual presence on line.
Since the foundation pilliar of the free trade marketing system is now broken & governments refuse to enforce quality standards it can and will only go one way,,,, downhill.

Add to that selfishness & greed , we all want a $ 2000 saw but we will only pay $ 200 for it and the long term survival for any quality consummer druable manufacturer is bleak indeed.
Husqvarna has finally realized that the 70's & 80's buisness plan of "owing the market" can not happen in a free trade world because there will always be another source that for whatever reason will be able to under cut you to a point that your business will become unviable .

Then there is the corperate govenance.
The pooled capital system ( stock market ) that most large companies are run under will always get a board that are "all made out of ticky tacky & all think just the same ".
And in the case of the MBA graduates it is all about maximum profit and that is made by buying public recognition ( trust & reputation ) and sucking it dry thus one by one you put a trusted name on trash till the public no longer believe in the product then drop that name & trash another one.
The risk adverse will not allocate the money required to upgrade a product or manufacturing process unless there is a guaranteed return greater than the money invested plus the alternative income lost by diverting that money from other investments or paying higher dividends , the latter of which pushes up the share price thus pushes up the boards claims for excessive bonuses.

As a general rule, once the original owners name vanishes from the management the business is on borrowed time.


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