Well i finally got my low rise athletic style work shoe but with aluminum toe instead of steel to save weight. I went with the red wing brand and am real happy with the comfort and support.they even have a computerized foot sizing system where you put your foot inside this contraption and it sizes up your feet to the perfect size.what was disappointing was the sales clerk had very little shoe product knowledge,and red wing is a shoe only store:confused2: i hope these last more than a year.