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Went to my mom & dad's for Easter dinner.....ham n lamb.....:licking:

While stepping outside for a smoke, I noticed parked behind my dad's truck was a yellow wheel with a green hubcap on it......no, he didn't.......

Found in his barn his new toy - a 1948 John Deere model "M"! Has a bucket lift on it, and is in overall pretty good darn shape - will post the pics as soon as I transfer them from my phone......Sold his commercial 60" front-deck JD for $1500 (it was beat....) and gave $2k for this gem......a net expense of $500!! See? Finding deals like this runs in my family........:biggrin:

1948 "M" - runs like a top (he started it right up for me) - hydraulics work pretty good (there's a leakdown problem, though). That arm doesn't have a bucket on it.......it's a snowlow-looking blade that attaches to the arm unit......looks like an option, and the bucket was an option, too.......notice the oddball frame on it....is this an aftermarket add-on? Or an original JD piece?

:cool2:Nice piece of equipment especially with the loader. Your dad going to have fun with that tractor.:thumbsup:

You should have seen the smile of pride on his face when I said "I found your new toy....."

Maybe he'll let me play with it a bit this summer.......:biggrin:

I like the way the steering column runs over the top of the engine compartment.

Is that a three-point hitch on the back? Or did those come along later?

I'm sure you congratulated him on getting a great deal.

How does he plan to use it?

Old tractors are a lot of fun... some pretty good you tube model M..... :smile::smile:KennyV

Twall, love the pictures of the M. You can look at all the new tractors you want but they just can't compete with these old classics. I can picture this one restored. Wish you guys luck with the new/old tractor.

Wow....that thing looks.....collectible. Parade material, a museum piece, if you will. Might be worth a lot more than 500$ to the right person.

Two-Stroke said:

I like the way the steering column runs over the top of the engine compartment.

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I was thinking the same thing. Almost art-deco. Wonder how far it travels before the transfer...

twall,nice old Deer.I would guess it's a drawbar hitch?I like that little winch on the fel...russ

The John Deere M is a great tractor. Your father got a good deal especially with the loader. Not many of these machines around with the loader.

mystreba said:

I was thinking the same thing. Almost art-deco. Wonder how far it travels before the transfer...

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I was looking at that, too. It appears to go all the way to the front axle above the engine! I'm thinking there are bevel gears going almost perpendicular.

The other neat thing about that column is that it was at one time adjustable (telescoping ). There's a locknut at the dash, and notches along the column to lock it.

This was bought to work. It'll never be a trailer queen. That is evidenced by the winch my dad welded to it! It's a cool old piece nevertheless! He won't do anything to it restoration wise. He'd be scared to use it, then! :laughing: If he leaves it to me in his will, it'll get resored!:biggrin:

Yeah, its a drawbar that lifts, not 3 pt tho. The arms are stamped and welded, not solid!

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It's one of 45,799 built, powered by an 18 hp, 2 cylinder gasoline engine...and yes, a drawbar hitch. Apparently it was JD's answer, and meant to compete with the Ford 9N, first one off the line in 1947.
Here's the specs
TractorData.com John Deere M tractor information

Post some pics of the hitch. I would like to see how it attaches to the machine.

Actually, it's main competition was the Farmall Cub, and Massey-Harris Pony.......it's almost the same size. I'll take some more pics when I get a chance. I'd like to get some when it's out and about.

It was also available as a trike.

twall said:

main competition was the Farmall Cub, and Massey-Harris Pony...it's almost the same size.

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The JD M is very cute... I've always liked them...
I have a Farmall Cub 1957.... It is a fun little tractor... :smile:KennyV

I had a farmall cub yrs ago and if my memory serves me it had what they called a 2pt hitch which could be made into a 3pt.Am I right on that Kenny? ..russ

173abn said:

I had a farmall cub yrs ago and if my memory serves me it had what they called a 2pt hitch which could be made into a 3pt.Am I right on that Kenny? ..russ

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The link RobertBrown posted has a conversion to 3pt for the M. :thumbsup:

My buddy's dad has a Mcormick-Deering Cub.....a rare beastie indeed.......rusting away outside for the last 15 years.....won't start it, won't use it, won't sell it...

twall,
JR (the one with the 33" Snapper) got a Ferguson TO 30 in 1952 new it is a 51. It had stopped while he was using the bushog and he couldn't shift gears so he figured that was the end. Long Story short -- I dragged it out and got it running for him -- it was all worth it to see an 84 year old Grin like a kid in a candy store ! I'll get some pictures.

BKBrown said:

twall,
a Ferguson TO 30 in 1952 new it is a 51

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Now that is another beautiful, classic tractor.

I don't want to hijack twall's thread, His Dad found a great tractor at a great price !

It is a testament to how good this TO30 is that it was used heavily from 52 until about 2008 and had poor maintenance + sat for a couple years unused and still with a little work (nothing major) it runs and will pull large logs.

BK, you've not hijacked anything. :thumbsup: I love old Fergusons too! The local chapter of the Ferguson club sposored the big, three-day tractor show/event in Stockton, NY last year!

We got buttons and a great event! Can't beat the fans.......or the tractors. I like them better than 8Ns.....

OK - well, just so you get an idea how much abuse this tractor had taken and still keeps on running. The Generator wires were bare (insulation rotted and falling off) - all the other wiring nearly as bad - So it got rewired with new regulator and battery.
The detents and springs that keep it in only 1 gear were in the bottom of the transmission along with about a gallon of water
(2 of the springs were in pieces from gears chewing them up).
It needed new coil, points, & plugs.
It got new Gear oil and new Engine oil + oil filter.
New front tires and wheels - New rear tires (all the old studs on one side needed to be drilled out)
New bowl on gas tank and new Carb. It had no muffler, so it got one that goes back under the rear axle.
JR was SURE that I was wasting my time - I waited until I got the engine to run before I got the tires.
I did not need to get inside the engine or clutch.
When I changed the engine oil and filter - JR said he had never changed the filter (the filter and housing were packed with what looked like grease)
It runs and shifts now on new tires. :biggrin:
It was worth all the time, effort, & $ to see that old man GRIN :biggrin: !
He is about the same age my Dad would be if he was still with us.

BK,

If you did this all on your dime, you are a large-hearted man indeed. I mean that with no sarcasm or cynnicism whatsoever.

twall said:

BK,

If you did this all on your dime, you are a large-hearted man indeed. I mean that with no sarcasm or cynnicism whatsoever.

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I'll second that. :thumbsup:

All on my dime -- He offered to pay and did give me a few $, but I told him if I need something I'll ask - He is a Vet and he reminds me of Dad. He said that the tractor is now mine when he isn't around to use it anymore (I'd rather have him around and told him so :thumbsup.
Worth it all just to see him happy with his toy at 84 now 85 :smile: !

BKBrown said:

All on my dime -- He offered to pay and did give me a few $, but I told him if I need something I'll ask - He is a Vet and he reminds me of Dad. He said that the tractor is now mine when he isn't around to use it anymore (I'd rather have him around and told him so :thumbsup.
Worth it all just to see him happy with his toy at 84 now 85 :smile: !

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I hope I have someone like you around me if I'm cursed to get that old. :smile:

BK,make that three!I admire someone that does that.We need more of you and less of the takers...russ

173abn said:

BK,make that three!I admire someone that does that.We need more of you and less of the takers...russ

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WOW - ain't that an AMEN for the non-religious guy? So very VERY true, the quote stands alone.......so that's all I can say....'I agree' (the meaning of "AMEN")!

KennyV said:

The JD M is very cute... I've always liked them...
I have a Farmall Cub 1957.... It is a fun little tractor... :smile:KennyV

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The M is cute but I like the MT better, always had a thing for narrow front ends.:confused2::laughing:

Two-Stroke said:

I like the way the steering column runs over the top of the engine compartment.

Is that a three-point hitch on the back? Or did those come along later?

I'm sure you congratulated him on getting a great deal.

How does he plan to use it?

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Nice machine. I really like the steering wheel angle.:thumbsup:

BKBrown said:

All on my dime -- He offered to pay and did give me a few $, but I told him if I need something I'll ask - He is a Vet and he reminds me of Dad. He said that the tractor is now mine when he isn't around to use it anymore (I'd rather have him around and told him so :thumbsup.
Worth it all just to see him happy with his toy at 84 now 85 :smile: !

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I find it interesting that he put the stipulation to your inheritence.....'When I'm not around anymore to use it'.......meaning, I full well assume, that HE WILL BE USING IT...at 85......I change my wish.......

I now wish that if I make it to 85, I'm as ready to use a machine like that as he apparently is...:thumbsup:

twall said:

I now wish that if I make it to 85, I'm as ready to use a machine like that as he apparently is...:thumbsup:

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That was my thought also...
I'm 65 and find myself running out of gas at times... more often than I care to admit... :smile:KennyV

Yes, He uses it and loves every min. :biggrin: Puts Bush hog on and takes it off by himself ! :thumbsup: Still mows with his 28" Snapper
(but not the 33" :frown

I hope I am in that good a shape at 85 !

twall said:

WOW - ain't that an AMEN for the non-religious guy? So very VERY true, the quote stands alone.......so that's all I can say....'I agree' (the meaning of "AMEN")!

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I'll offer another AMEN from the non-religious. Plus two hail mary's and a partridge in a pear tree!

AND - survived Rockey Mountain Spotted Fever this past fall. Claims to be weaker, but keeps on chugging along. :thumbsup: Loads his own firewood, splits it on his splitter, and keeps his fires going in 2 wood stoves. Last year he fixed his Spring Fed cistern (climbed down into a 15' deep x 3' well casing and cemented the bottom) that supplies water to the house. :thumbsup:
J.R. eats raw honey on most everything and raw honeycomb all the time.

This is how we Wall's treat antiques...:laughing:

This is a set of 0"-3" J.T. Slocomb Micrometers (bought them separate, from three locations...for a combined total of $50). Polished the thimbles & cylinders when I got them. Just painted the frames about two hours ago. They are from the 30's to the 60's. (It's impossible to date these things, since they made the EXACT SAME THING TO THE DETAIL from about 1900 - 1980) But, given the wear and the KIND of wear (taken care of, but used for a LONG time), they are OLD.

The point? Notice the bands on each one. These were inspected last week, and will see DAILY USE! ANTIQUE OR NOT! :laughing:

twall said:

I find it interesting that he put the stipulation to your inheritence.....'When I'm not around anymore to use it'.......meaning, I full well assume, that HE WILL BE USING IT...at 85......I change my wish.......

I now wish that if I make it to 85, I'm as ready to use a machine like that as he apparently is...:thumbsup:

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I had originally said "If I'm cursed to make it to 85"........to the mod.....delete my post, rather than edit it. I was deliberate in my wording. I cannot edit (or delete myself) that one post, of all the posts I posted. So, it was edited by a mod. I'm not an idiot.

Just delete it next time. I meant what I said. If you do not like it, delete it, rather than change what I said.

twall said:

I had originally said "If I'm cursed to make it to 85"........to the mod.....delete my post, rather than edit it. I was deliberate in my wording. I cannot edit (or delete myself) that one post, of all the posts I posted. So, it was edited by a mod. I'm not an idiot.

Just delete it next time. I meant what I said. If you do not like it, delete it, rather than change what I said.

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Interesting. I wonder if it was an auto-edit on the word "cursed"? I'd hate to think our wording might be intentionally edited.

I tell my kids all the time that if I make it past 70 they should take me out behind the shed and get it over with. Sometimes when I get to the end of the day (let's say it's been a three-Motrin day), I'm not sure I'm kidding! But I do admire those like BK's friend that keep going strong. Especially with Rocky Mtn. Spotted Fever - nasty disease very much like Lyme Disease. The fact that he simply says it "slowed him down" says a great deal about his stamina!

mystreba said:

Interesting. I wonder if it was an auto-edit on the word "cursed"? I'd hate to think our wording might be intentionally edited.

I tell my kids all the time that if I make it past 70 they should take me out behind the shed and get it over with. Sometimes when I get to the end of the day (let's say it's been a three-Motrin day), I'm not sure I'm kidding! But I do admire those like BK's friend that keep going strong. Especially with Rocky Mtn. Spotted Fever - nasty disease very much like Lyme Disease. The fact that he simply says it "slowed him down" says a great deal about his stamina!

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No, it was edited. Whoever took out a phrase that I had in there "am cursed to". It's not just one word. Otherwise, and autoedit would have just changed the word. This happened just before Briana took the riegns as edit queen....wonder if she doesn't share Muhammad's views on censorship. :frown: Now there are a lot MORE posts to delete to cover up something ONE PERSON didn't like.

If I make it to 85, judging by my mobility NOW, it'll be a CURSE, yes, a CURSE....I'll be the drooling guy in the old folk's home, who can't pee on his own, or even stand up. Curse is EXACTLY what I meant for describing myself at 85.......CURSED!!!!!! We clear now, whoever edited my post?

CENSORSHIP SUX!!!!!

There is no big plus to getting old... I know exactly what you are saying... :smile:KennyV

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Finally remembered to take the camera and get some shots of the TO 30 that I got running for JR -- It is as old as I am ! (actually 1 year older) :thumbsup:

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Finally remembered to take the camera and get some shots of the TO 30 that I got running for JR -- It is as old as I am ! (actually 1 year older) :thumbsup:

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Your 'attach' commands are no good......it says the attachments are invalid........:frown: I WANNA SEE THE PICS, TOO!!!!

I'll try again --

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I'll try again --

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I love old Ferguson's..........That is NICE!!!!

I see somebody painted it red.....:laughing: Massey-Harris was red, Fergusons were gray, and when they merged to become Massey-Ferguson, they were Massey Red, and Ferguson gray. :biggrin:

I don't know what the base color was -- JR calls it a Harris or a Harry Ferguson - it is actually a
1951 TO30 that JR purchased new in 1952 --- HE may have painted it red ???

BKBrown said:

I don't know what the base color was -- JR calls it a Harris or a Harry Ferguson - it is actually a
1951 TO30 that JR purchased new in 1952 --- HE may have painted it red ???

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Doesn't matter. It's actually a straight-up Ferguson......but it's still cool in red, too....:biggrin:

He probably calls it that because of the merger...the fact that Massey-Harris was associated with Ferguson......could be a variation during the merger.....but it looks straight up Ferguson to me....:laughing:

The first iteration of the name was "Massey-Harris-Ferguson" - quickly shortened to "Massey-Ferguson". Thus the triple triangles: Massey - Harris - Ferguson. Three equals working together to make the same thing, but stronger? (it's nothing more than a name and an emblem, today....:frown

Harry Ferguson was also the head of Ferguson....so that might a be better reason. :wink: He left Ford to produce Ferguson tractors.......which would explain why it's almost a twin to the 8N........

The Ford-Ferguson 8N/9N was a joint venture. Ferguson was insturmental to the invention of the 3 point hitch. In 1947, Henry Ford II dissolved agreements ith Harry Ferguson, and in 1948, production of the TO20 commenced, because Ford held patents on the 8N until that date, and Fergusons were sold in the UK prior.

Massey-Harris was actually a CANADIAN firm.

Wikipedia is a great resource!

The Chevy flat bed is not bad either. I think we can all agree that old tractors have a certain quality to them. They were built to last and last they have. I am partial to JD's, but anything from the 30's, 40's 50's etc. works for me.

fastback said:

The Chevy flat bed is not bad either. I think we can all agree that old tractors have a certain quality to them. They were built to last and last they have. I am partial to JD's, but anything from the 30's, 40's 50's etc. works for me.

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Old stuff is cool! (except sometimes HUMANS.....:laughing

That is JRs 49 Chevy 1 Ton Commercial. :biggrin:

fastback said:

The Chevy flat bed is not bad either. I think we can all agree that old tractors have a certain quality to them. They were built to last and last they have. I am partial to JD's, but anything from the 30's, 40's 50's etc. works for me.

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View attachment 1862 View attachment 1861 That is JRs 49 Chevy 1 Ton Commercial. :biggrin:

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The cemetary I used to mow at had a dump truck identical to that (front end body/suspension, anyway.....) split windshield and all! I drove it a couple of times. :thumbsup:

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View attachment 1862 View attachment 1861 That is JRs 49 Chevy 1 Ton Commercial. :biggrin:

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I had a 1951 Chevy truck that looked like that from the front. Mine wasn't a one-ton though. I had to get rid of it because of space considerations -- I found a good home for it.

That truck brings back memories of my '48 Plymouth Special Deluxe. Had it restored to showroom condition, and used to show it in local car shows. I'd love to have that truck!!!!!

That sounds like a great investment... Those deals are out there if you're at the right place at the right time and have some cash to make it happen before they change their minds or someone else gets it before you can! Way to go to your dad! Have a great night... :thumbsup: