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I am looking for a good self p mower rear drive and is 20 to 22 wide i have a newer one i am trying to find one that goes up a hill just a little bit better I would like to also like to stay under 500$$$
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Wow that's a lot of smilies! haha
I would suggest Honda. Yes, my Honda is more expensive than your budget but there are cheaper Honda HRX mowers. It is worth the price....the mower will last you FOREVER!! Mine has AWESOME traction. See this thread (there are pictures of the hill in post #5): http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/honda-forum/12234-honda-hrx217-5-stars-traction.html

Honda Website: Honda Lawn Mowers - HRX HRR HRC HRS Mowers



One of the Honda HRX mowers was rated as the "best push/self-propell mower" a few years back! :thumbsup:

John Deere self propels are nice, I'm not sure about all the newer John Deere's, but I have an older John Deere 14SB that will climb hills any day, and the Kawi engine runs like a dream.

There are two kinds of self propelled homeowner lawnmowers in the size you describe. Those under $500. And those over $500. Bells and whistles keep the lower end near the mark. Lack of bells and whistles keep the upper end near the mark.

Toro every time with a Briggs and Stratton engine.

Toro | 21.7" (55 cm) Steel Deck Recycler® (20958)

We have converted so many people from different brands to this mower.

:smile: Heres one for you, it is a little over your 500$ budget. Bravo 25 commerical, Honda engine. With retail prices starting @ 999$. You can check it out @ybravo.com. Now who in the world would pay that kind of money for a walk behind mower?

Anyone that wants a commercial walk behind mower in that size will pay it. They will do it so they can get a commercial grade lawnmower with a commercial grade engine and a commercial grade transmission and a commercial grade warranty with commercial grade service. It does not take very long to wear out a homeowner type self propelled lawnmower. I would imagine the transmission alone on commercial grade mowers is half the cost of the mower.

Buckshot 1 said:

:smile: Heres one for you, it is a little over your 500$ budget. Bravo 25 commerical, Honda engine. With retail prices starting @ 999$. You can check it out @ybravo.com. Now who in the world would pay that kind of money for a walk behind mower?

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That kind of money, that's cheap for a commercial. The Toro Turf master 30" and the sister Exmark 30" are selling for $1799. With the Kawasaki FJ 180V

Buckshot 1 said:

:smile: Heres one for you, it is a little over your 500$ budget. Bravo 25 commerical, Honda engine. With retail prices starting @ 999$. You can check it out @ybravo.com. Now who in the world would pay that kind of money for a walk behind mower?

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A lawn care business owner did not like the YBravo 25. They said they didn't like how it only had one speed (fast). See it here (post #7): http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/general-mower-discussion/11958-bravo-25-anyone-ever-used-one.html.

I filling like getting a lawn boy maybe ???

K-Pro-Mowing said:

I filling like getting a lawn boy maybe ???

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I would not recommend a LawnBoy. They are like super cheap residential mowers. :thumbdown:
What does anyone else think about a LawnBoy in this situation? :anyone:

lawn mower fanatic said:

I would not recommend a LawnBoy. They are like super cheap residential mowers. :thumbdown:
What does anyone else think about a LawnBoy in this situation? :anyone:

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U may wanna look at a YouTube guy called John3800 he run a lawn care and he haves so many of them that all run good :thumbsup:

K-Pro-Mowing said:

U may wanna look at a YouTube guy called John3800 he run a lawn care and he haves so many of them that all run good :thumbsup:

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Well yeah....I'm not saying they won't run good and that they won't last, but I'm just saying that I think there are some better brands for a lawn care pro than a $250 Lawnboy. Like maybe Honda, Toro, Snapper, Exmark.....

lawn mower fanatic said:

Well yeah....I'm not saying they won't run good and that they won't last, but I'm just saying that I think there are some better brands for a lawn care pro than a $250 Lawnboy. Like maybe Honda, Toro, Snapper, Exmark.....

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I looked at a Honda and I am feeling like that maybe my choice they may last longer :thumbsup:

K-Pro-Mowing said:

I looked at a Honda and I am feeling like that maybe my choice they may last longer :thumbsup:

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Yes, I definitely think they will. Which Honda mower were you looking at? An HRX?

lawn mower fanatic said:

Yes, I definitely think they will. Which Honda mower were you looking at? An HRX?

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It is a HRR

K-Pro-Mowing said:

It is a HRR

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Oh, OK. I like the new (2013) HRR's because they have a Clip Director....so no mulch plug! :thumbsup: Also they have the Smart Drive and some have the Roto-Stop BBC. I would get that mower if I was you! :thumbsup:

lawn mower fanatic said:

Oh, OK. I like the new (2013) HRR's because they have a Clip Director....so no mulch plug! :thumbsup: Also they have the Smart Drive and some have the Roto-Stop BBC. I would get that mower if I was you! :thumbsup:

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And the one I want is in my budget :thumbsup::biggrin:

K-Pro-Mowing said:

And the one I want is in my budget :thumbsup::biggrin:

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That is always good! Which one--the VKA?


...........Honda Lawn Mowers: HRR216VKA, HRR216K8VKA

lawn mower fanatic said:

That is always good! Which one--the VKA?
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View attachment 11274...........Honda Lawn Mowers: HRR216VKA, HRR216K8VKA

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it was 479$$ one on the Honda web site:thumbsup:

lawn mower fanatic said:

A lawn care business owner did not like the YBravo 25. They said they didn't like how it only had one speed (fast). See it here (post #7): http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/general-mower-discussion/11958-bravo-25-anyone-ever-used-one.html.

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THe Ybravo 21" and 25" both have a Heavy duty 2-speed gear drive transmission. Why would they say only had one speed?

Ric said:

THe Ybravo 21" and 25" both have a Heavy duty 2-speed gear drive transmission. Why would they say only had one speed?

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I don't know, but that's what the people who used it said! :confused2: Maybe they didn't know where the gear-changer was. I thought is was weird to have a mower with only one speed! :confused2: Did you read that thread....it clearly said about it only having one speed. Right? Hmmm....now I'm curious. Would they have purchased that mower if they knew it had more than one speed???

K-Pro-Mowing said:

it was 479$$ one on the Honda web site:thumbsup:

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Yep, that's the HRR216VKA. :thumbsup: I think it would be a good mower for you! And now the 2013 VKA's have the Clip Director. See video (this was made before the Clip Director was added):

(video by LingsTV)

:smile: Evidently the lawn care owner did not try the mower out and maybe his employees where a little bit on the lazy side and the Bravo worked them to hard. If I am going to try out a new piece of equipment I am going to be the one to work it and form my own opinion.

Buckshot 1 said:

:smile: Evidently the lawn care owner did not try the mower out and maybe his employees where a little bit on the lazy side and the Bravo worked them to hard. If I am going to try out a new piece of equipment I am going to be the one to work it and form my own opinion.

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Yeah same here!

lawn mower fanatic said:

Yeah same here!

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I did try out the ybravo. Hated it. Used a demo for a day. Was like taking a Clydesdale to a cutting horse competition. I have a commercial service and see no use whatsoever for either the 21 inch or the 25. Way too heavy, hard to turn in tight spots.