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[KennyV]

In pipe there are tapered and straight cut threads... also SAE and metric size and thread pitch... For sure they were made to someones spec... and that was obviously not the SAE tapered pipe threads that you needed... someone ordered it wrong, it was made correct, (according to the specification), that is not a manufacturers error... But these things can happen, always check for leaks, with gas lines... :smile:KennyV

 

[Giles]

You are correct, but--I have done a lot of plumbing and I know the difference in different type threads:thumbsup:

 

[jenkinsph]

I am in the plumbing business and have found that Ward makes good black fittings that pass leak tests far better than China made fittings. Very little difference in cost too.

 

[motorrefurb]

Bosch is a very good company, I think Germany and some other European countries make the best stuff :biggrin: But many things from China tend to overheat, at least for me

 

[Sammy the Red]

I believe that Vise-Grip went overseas last year.

Keep your old ones !

 

[motorrefurb]

jenkinsph cute dog :biggrin: My bench vise I bought was made in China, it was absolute trash! Then I bought another one, still made in China, and it is decent looking, I haven't used it yet because I need to figure out a way to get the 3 pounds of grease they smother it with off

 

[Giles]

A few years ago, I bought a 6" Chinese made vice that looked really heavy built. It was at a yard sale, so the price was negotiated.
I used it for a few weeks and then it broke.
Unbelievable that the screw was connected to the handle with a 5mm roll pin:thumbdown:
The full force of the clamping was against this pin
Would have probably been OK if it was a 2"--but the pin would have been smaller--wouldn't it:laughing:
I could see no way of welding or modifying because the pin had to be installed after assembly:thumbdown:
Definately a cheap way to manufacture:thumbdown:
I took it to the scrap yard

 

[KennyV]

.... I bought a 6" Chinese made vice that looked really heavy built.
The full force of the clamping was against this pin
...
Definately a cheap way to manufacture:thumbdown:
I took it to the scrap yard

There have been tools sold, that "Look" like tools at a glance... but if you look close, or actually use them, you will soon see their short comings... I think everyone of us has been stung by this type thing.
Those tools are made to Sell ... NOT to Buy.

At least you will now know one thing to look for when buying a vice... and there are some outstanding machinist grade vices and tooling made... in China, at very good prices.
You just have to look at what you are buying, and Know what to look for... but that has always been the case. As more and more company's & people in this country look for the cheapest (looks good enough, to sell) items, the consumer needs to start looking closer... again it is not the manufacturer that specs the product... it is someone here in this country that makes the decision that the quality is Not important... and that is how they order the parts & assemblies... same thing happens with lawn mowers, and any other consumer good... it's not the country or manufacturer ... it's generally going to be someone here responsible for the lack of quality... :smile:KennyV

 

[Giles]

This "roll pin" was not visable without disassembly (hidden) and was a major ordeal to repair
I am a Retired Tool&Die Maker and I know a quality tool when I can "SEE" it:laughing:
I bought this really cheap:ashamed: and my intent for this post was to describe my experience--Of which I have had many with China Junk:thumbsup:
I should have known better but I didn't know it was Chinese made until it broke:ashamed:
I do not necessarly have a problem with Foreign made items--I have some Japanese, German, and British tools that are high quality---I have just never purchased a quality Chinese tool:thumbdown:
I think that if you do a little research--you will discover there are far more people who hate China items then would recommend them:smile:
I think most of the problems associated with China tools is material quality:thumbdown:
In my personal opinion--from experience--China has the worst quality steel in the world and Great Britian has the higest:thumbsup:

 

[benski]

This "roll pin" was not visable without disassembly (hidden) and was a major ordeal to repair
I am a Retired Tool&Die Maker and I know a quality tool when I can "SEE" it:laughing:
I bought this really cheap:ashamed: and my intent for this post was to describe my experience--Of which I have had many with China Junk:thumbsup:
I should have known better but I didn't know it was Chinese made until it broke:ashamed:
I do not necessarly have a problem with Foreign made items--I have some Japanese, German, and British tools that are high quality---I have just never purchased a quality Chinese tool:thumbdown:
I think that if you do a little research--you will discover there are far more people who hate China items then would recommend them:smile:
I think most of the problems associated with China tools is material quality:thumbdown:
In my personal opinion--from experience--China has the worst quality steel in the world and Great Britian has the higest:thumbsup:

I 've had pretty good luck with everything except Chinese and Indian manufactured tools. The manufacturing tolerances, forging quality, and especially steel quality leave a TON to be desired.
I guess the old cliche about getting what you pay for usually holds true. I just grit my teeth and get decent stuff, hopefully only once!:ashamed::biggrin: