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1983 Troy Bilt Pony question

Feb 18, 2015#1

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coinman66

First of all, cant find model number anywhere. supposed to be stamped on transmission on right side. took wire brush to it and nothing. But anyhow need help with triple pulley. Will try to post pic to help understand. Pulley seems to be wobbly and im pretty sure im missing some parts in front of and behind pulley. Trying to figure out what parts I need.

Feb 18, 2015#2

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coinman66

Here is how pulley was installed? Am I missing any parts in front or behind pulley?
Thanks

Feb 18, 2015#3

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bertsmobile1

If there is a key to go in that key way that looks like it has seen better days then all is there.
Have a ood look at the engine end of the pully stack
It needs to be nice and square as that is the bit which sits on the shoulder on the shaft and is pulled down tight by the bolt.
Measure the distance the bolt hangs out of the engine shaft without the pulley then the thickness of the top of the pully stack to make sure you have good clamping force.
The key should go almost the full length of the key way as it is a power key.
Also have a good look at the key way in our pully stack, if it is not nice sharp & square then you will need to get a new one cut into it.
When you put the pulley stack on the shaft you should not be able to rotate it back & forth on the engine shaft it must be tight.

Feb 18, 2015#4

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bertsmobile1

And now i have had a second look, is that a loose nut under the retaining bolt or is the hex part of the pulley stack.
If has been put in to take up space, get rid of it and fit a proper length bolt.

Feb 18, 2015#5

NorthBama

I have a mid 80s model pony, I will check for model numbers location tomorrow too cold tonight

Feb 18, 2015#6

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coinman66

bertsmobile1 said:
And now i have had a second look, is that a loose nut under the retaining bolt or is the hex part of the pulley stack.
If has been put in to take up space, get rid of it and fit a proper length bolt.

Yes it's a loose nut. I know that's not supposed to be there. I'm assuming it should be a washer?

Feb 18, 2015#7

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coinman66

NorthBama said:
I have a mid 80s model pony, I will check for model numbers location tomorrow too cold tonight

Any help is appreciated. Thanks

Feb 19, 2015#8

NorthBama

Look on the tube from transmission to the tines for model number

Feb 19, 2015#9

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coinman66

NorthBama said:
Look on the tube from transmission to the tines for model number

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I looked everywhere up and down that tube. Don't see it?

Feb 19, 2015#10

NorthBama

the pony I have has 2 belts one for forward and one for reverse

Feb 19, 2015#11

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coinman66

NorthBama said:
the pony I have has 2 belts one for forward and one for reverse

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What year is your Pony Tiller? Mine is a Pony III I believe from 1983.

Feb 19, 2015#12

NorthBama

View attachment Troy Bilt Tiller serial numbers.pdf

coinman66 said:
What year is your Pony Tiller? Mine is a Pony III I believe from 1983.

I will need to do more research and get back with you. It was past on to me from FIL. Tomorrow I will get the model number and the Briggs and Stratton number from the engine.
after more research I could not find year manufactured with pony serial number. The Briggs engine was manufactured in 1990. ci did find this for Pony serial numbers
Jul - 1976 P10001
Jan - 1977 P12184
Jul - 1977 P17239
Jan - 1978 P21736
Jul - 1978 P27504
Jan - 1979 P33557
Jul - 1979 P40287
Jan - 1980 P48773
Jul - 1980 P58906
Jan - 1981 P68034
Jul - 1981 P80423
Jan - 1982 P89466
May - 1982 S101843 Pony III
Jul - 1982 S105606
Jan - 1983 S117319
Jul - 1983 S129028
Jun - 1981 M1001
Jan - 1982 M1378
Jul - 1982 M8204 Junior II
Jan - 1983 M17012
Jul - 1983 M25639
Information from many owners
REFERENCES
The Rototiller in America by Donald A Jones, Pgs 58 & 59
The Lyman P. Wood Story by Roger Griffith, In Brief Press, Charlotte, VT
Gardening Beyond the Plow by Dean Leith Jr, 1980, Garden Way Publications, Inc.
How To Do Wonders With A Rototiller by Ed Robinson
Personal Files of Bill Robinson
Records of Kent Gross

Feb 20, 2015#13

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coinman66

NorthBama said:
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I will need to do more research and get back with you. It was past on to me from FIL. Tomorrow I will get the model number and the Briggs and Stratton number from the engine.
after more research I could not find year manufactured with pony serial number. The Briggs engine was manufactured in 1990. ci did find this for Pony serial numbers
Jul - 1976 P10001
Jan - 1977 P12184
Jul - 1977 P17239
Jan - 1978 P21736
Jul - 1978 P27504
Jan - 1979 P33557
Jul - 1979 P40287
Jan - 1980 P48773
Jul - 1980 P58906
Jan - 1981 P68034
Jul - 1981 P80423
Jan - 1982 P89466
May - 1982 S101843 Pony III
Jul - 1982 S105606
Jan - 1983 S117319
Jul - 1983 S129028
Jun - 1981 M1001
Jan - 1982 M1378
Jul - 1982 M8204 Junior II
Jan - 1983 M17012
Jul - 1983 M25639
Information from many owners
REFERENCES
The Rototiller in America by Donald A Jones, Pgs 58 & 59
The Lyman P. Wood Story by Roger Griffith, In Brief Press, Charlotte, VT
Gardening Beyond the Plow by Dean Leith Jr, 1980, Garden Way Publications, Inc.
How To Do Wonders With A Rototiller by Ed Robinson
Personal Files of Bill Robinson
Records of Kent Gross[/QUOTE

I cannot see the stamped numbers anywhere? The engine code on my engine is 130297 1665 01 and the date code is 1983. I believe 99% this is the original engine. Is the stamped model number always on the 2 inch tube area?

Feb 20, 2015#14

NorthBama

PM sent

Feb 20, 2015#15

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coinman66

NorthBama said:
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PM sent

Here is my tiller. Do u think its the one in the manual u sent?

Feb 21, 2015#16

NorthBama

coinman66 said:
Here is my tiller. Do u think its the one in the manual u sent?

Looking at page 14 at the transmission drive pulley and your first post picture of the drive pulley I would say yes.

Feb 21, 2015#17

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coinman66

NorthBama said:
Looking at page 14 at the transmission drive pulley and your first post picture of the drive pulley I would say yes.

Thank u much for your time and help. Now I can order some parts.

Feb 21, 2015#18

NorthBama

coinman66 said:
Thank u much for your time and help. Now I can order some parts.

enjoy

Feb 21, 2015#19

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bertsmobile1

coinman66 said:
Yes it's a loose nut. I know that's not supposed to be there. I'm assuming it should be a washer?

Yes a nice big thick steel washer.
You will find a blade washer will do the job quite well.

Feb 21, 2015#20

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coinman66

bertsmobile1 said:
Yes a nice big thick steel washer.
You will find a blade washer will do the job quite well.

Thanks Bertsmobile1, gonna find me one!

Feb 22, 2015#21

NorthBama

Be sure to post more pictures when you get your machine running well.

Feb 22, 2015#22

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coinman66

I sure will! Thanks all.

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