Recoil Starter Part Number Identification Problem

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• Monday at 3:19 PM / Recoil Starter Part Number Identification Problem

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Working on a Bolens/MTD Model 11A-B06R765(has a number 421852 under the model # ) s/n 1G253K10481

Mower's recoil came to me in pieces off the mower....I ordered a new starter that came with a "insert" looking piece with a 4 bolt pattern loose. The replacement starter appears to snap into the blower housing from the bottom. When starter blower over is bolted to the flange piece under the flywheel it appears to bind somewhere as if the bolts(3) to the blower housing is missing spacers. I do not see a starter in their website that "snaps" into the blower housing.

I must be missing something in the jigsaw puzzle...thanks in advance,

bartles

 

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• Monday at 3:41 PM / Recoil Starter Part Number Identification Problem

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By now you should know that you can't just willy nilly order parts. You first must look up the engine using its model and spec number with date code or serial number as manufacture do change things in mid production.

The IPL only shows the general assembly with a few Briggs parts so I assume it has a Briggs engine. But which one?

 

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• Monday at 4:50 PM / Recoil Starter Part Number Identification Problem

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The blower housing has decal information: "B&S 500E Series"/140cc I could never find a specific model information for just the engine on the engine proper. FYI, I could not find in the MTD website specific mower model differentiation by a specific B & S engine model.
The old starter, in pieces, did not include a separate ring that fit the starter bolt hole pattern. It to looks like it snaps in the blower housing from the inside. There were no washers or spacers that might lift the starter and housing to prevent the binding.

 

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• Monday at 5:39 PM / Recoil Starter Part Number Identification Problem

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bartles said:

The blower housing has decal information: "B&S 500E Series"/140cc I could never find a specific model information for just the engine on the engine proper. FYI, I could not find in the MTD website specific mower model differentiation by a specific B & S engine model.
The old starter, in pieces, did not include a separate ring that fit the starter bolt hole pattern. It to looks like it snaps in the blower housing from the inside. There were no washers or spacers that might lift the starter and housing to prevent the binding.

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Model number info for the engine is most likely stamped into the side of the engine block on the side opposite the fuel tank and carb.

 

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• Monday at 5:46 PM / Recoil Starter Part Number Identification Problem

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Sound like 09P6 or 09P7 series so look on the side of the crankcase for the numbers.

Now the rewind may have come with a new starter cup [455A] which need to be used and not the 455. Also that ring [930]may not be used on your version of the engine. Briggs made the change back in Aug 2014.

 

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• Monday at 5:52 PM / Recoil Starter Part Number Identification Problem

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The engine information is computer dot etched on the flat side section of the engine block; you may need to clean the block really well to see the tiny digits.

 

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• Yesterday at 6:04 AM / Recoil Starter Part Number Identification Problem

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Auto Doc's said:

The engine information is computer dot etched on the flat side section of the engine block; you may need to clean the block really well to see the tiny digits."

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I have located numbers that are cast into the engine block, on a flat horizontal surface..."21-140"

 

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• Yesterday at 11:23 AM / Recoil Starter Part Number Identification Problem

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That is not the number.

Look at the flat vertical section opposite side of the block from the air cleaner and carburetor. They will be dot etched numbers, not casted.

 

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• Yesterday at 1:23 PM / Recoil Starter Part Number Identification Problem

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Bingo!! Wifey arrived with better eyes!!

9P602 O023 F1
DOM 06-21-13

I really appreciate y'all's experience with this one....I've never seen etching this faint....B&S didn't expect anyone needing to order parts I guess

 

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• Yesterday at 5:37 PM / Recoil Starter Part Number Identification Problem

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Well guys I got all giddy with the "discovery" of the model number (9P602-0023-F1) info on the block...until I looked at part number 84010941 in the B&S website and saw a four hole bolt pattern on the starter..........the existing arrangement is a three (shoulder) bolt pattern.

I am stuck again, appreciate the help in advance yet again,

bartles