was wondering how many Canadians are here stop in and say hi

Bison

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One can fool kids only so long with these fairytales,when the catch on they been had they usually rebel by saying "why did you lie about that", and,..i never believe you again!. :mad:
IMO,It underminds the credebillity of grown ups,sure not a smart thing to do.. i say.

But nowadays espessially in the bigger city's there are so many santa's kicking around that one can't fool even the very young kids for very long:wink:

The kids in Holland are nowadays just as confused and FF ed up as here.Drug's and crime are running rampant there too..Kids have no respect anymore for their elders as they used to have either.

There is such a tremendous influx of East Europians( mostly criminals) and Muslims(religeous fanatics) there it starts to tear the country apart:confused2:

The world is changing,..and IMO not for the better!.
 

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I don't know how the schooling there is today,..When i grew up one could go after elimentairy school was finnished straight to trade schools to learn their trade of choice or go to middle school and then to college or whatever. High school as we have here did not exist back then. There was no requirement to stay in school till one was 18 either,and plenty kids that didn't like school were fulltime workers by the time they were 15 or 16. Learning on the job was very common and did do a better job on work ethics and abillity than keeping them in school were they are forced to learn stuff they never needed later in life.
Grades had to be passed or one had to do a year the second or a third time.There was no free ride.

What i find here,is that a lot of kids when they finnish high school still know dickall how to proceed in life, Cause they have not been thought how to work,something that need to be thought at a young age when they still can be motivated.
Nowadays at 18 or 19 yrs old they only know how to party,play video games and F the dog.
There is these days waaayy to much homework to do after school too,no wonder kids loose interest.:thumbdown:
 

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I am new to the site and was looking to see where my fellow Canadians are at. I know this is an old thread, but thought here was as good a place as any to give a shout out to the Canucks.

Looking forward to checking out and contributing to the site from a Toronto Outdoor Power Equipment Dealer's perspective.

Ask me anything you always wanted to ask your dealer, but didn't.
 

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I am new to the site and was looking to see where my fellow Canadians are at. I know this is an old thread, but thought here was as good a place as any to give a shout out to the Canucks.

Looking forward to checking out and contributing to the site from a Toronto Outdoor Power Equipment Dealer's perspective.

Ask me anything you always wanted to ask your dealer, but didn't.
I've asked dealers what percentage profit they make on new equipment and how much on parts.
Ofcourse they never disclosed that,they only said,..not much.:rolleyes:

I wonder if you have the guts to spill the beans:wink:
I ain't holding my breath though:laughing:

I also wonder when i wander in a JD dealership why the walls,shelves and floors are completely covered with toy tractors and such crap, but even simple parts for a tractor or implement needs to be ordered and can take weeks to get and when it does arive it is usually the wrong part:confused2:
Screw the farmer eh
 

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I will take a shot at answering your question, but no guarantee it will satisfy.

Historically, there was always greater ROI (return on investment) on the parts as opposed to the new equipment. No surprise there, however, it was also the case that historically models would not change as often and that there was many commonly used parts on the various models and even makes.

People would also keep their lawn mowers longer. There was no such thing as the disposable lawn mower 10 or 15 years ago as you see now. With the flood of Chinese sourced products the replacement part industry has really changed, people replacing the whole recoil rather than the spring, replacing the whole carb rather than rebuilding with a kit, or in some cases replacing the whole mower rather than even getting an estimate on the repair. Let's not even talk what this is doing to the landfills. This is not dissimilar from what happened to the appliance repair guys I guess. How many guys are repairing microwaves any more?

The above is all relevant to the answer because historically dealers could stock common fast moving parts and be assured that they would not be obsoleted quickly and that they would have certain rate of turnover to justify having the stock on hand.

Us personally, we still have a HUGE inventory of parts relative to our colleagues. It is costing us a fortune in space and capital being tied up and sitting on the shelf. What we are noticing in the industry is that many of the other dealers are moving towards drastically reducing their stock of parts on hand and a customer has to order individual parts for a repair or a special order with the corresponding delay.

The reason you may hear other dealers say "they don't make much" may be due to the fact that recently they have been having to eat more write downs on obsolete parts in their inventory. We didn't know how bad it was until we invested in the tracking software that essentially told us we are losing money with respect to some lines once you factor in the cost of the capital and real estate to be able to have stock on hand for the guy that comes in and wants the stuff right away (our landscaper customers ;).

The answer is also complicated by the fact that the number of manufacturers and the different rates of return on parts in general depending on the manufacturer. You also have different rates of return on parts by the same manufacturer (sometimes with no reason from our perspective).

In short, on fast moving stuff you can make 30% ROI but once you factor in all of the other costs related only to the parts, I can see why some dealers may say not much.

On new equipment, it really depends as well. You have got MRSL which may provide for 30% return, but I can tell you that no one is getting that up here. Like the car industry, the margins are now razor thin on the big stuff in highly competitive markets like Toronto. This year in Toronto the industry is coming off a winter that never came, so we are in it to make every sale Spring.

The other dynamic it has created is that because the competition is fierce in Toronto, we are seeing a lot more guys driving from 4 hours away to make their big purchases in the big City. I guess that is the power of the Internet at play as well.

Like I said, I probably didn't answer your question, firstly because there really is not one answer and secondly the times are a changin'

Cheers



I've asked dealers what percentage profit they make on new equipment and how much on parts.
Ofcourse they never disclosed that,they only said,..not much.:rolleyes:

I wonder if you have the guts to spill the beans:wink:
I ain't holding my breath though:laughing:

I also wonder when i wander in a JD dealership why the walls,shelves and floors are completely covered with toy tractors and such crap, but even simple parts for a tractor or implement needs to be ordered and can take weeks to get and when it does arive it is usually the wrong part:confused2:
Screw the farmer eh
 

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Yes,the throw away attitude only seems to get worse,replace,..don't fix.
A zillion models that do all the same thing,...mow grass.
Every model has its own parts that doesn't fit any other model.

I needed brushes for a big starter for one of my tractors. 8 brushes at $25 a piece..$200.:rolleyes:
A new starter was $320,you go figure:confused2: guess what i bought.:wink:

This world is crazy.
 

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I am in Waterloo Ontario Canada

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  • / was wondering how many Canadians are here stop in and say hi
One can fool kids only so long with these fairytales,when the catch on they been had they usually rebel by saying "why did you lie about that", and,..i never believe you again!. :mad:
IMO,It underminds the credebillity of grown ups,sure not a smart thing to do.. i say.

But nowadays espessially in the bigger city's there are so many santa's kicking around that one can't fool even the very young kids for very long:wink:

The kids in Holland are nowadays just as confused and FF ed up as here.Drug's and crime are running rampant there too..Kids have no respect anymore for their elders as they used to have either.

There is such a tremendous influx of East Europians( mostly criminals) and Muslims(religeous fanatics) there it starts to tear the country apart:confused2:

The world is changing,..and IMO not for the better!.
Oh yeah ?
I question this....and everything !
Lets do some searching for the truth.
Sources ?
From my perspective, I think its better than ever..
So, this depends on where one is.
Why are people the way they seem to be ?
fanatics
criminals
why?
since I am neither (IMO), I do not know.
Ever speak with one of these ?
Have a good day, and converse.
 

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Oh yeah ?
I question this....and everything !
Lets do some searching for the truth.
Sources ?......my relatives,they live in Holland...

From my perspective, I think its better than ever..
So, this depends on where one is.....nope,your country is on the way to the crapper too,..you need to pull your head out of your behind and see what's happening all over the world........the devil is gaining the upperhand(his helper is in the WH)

Why are people the way they seem to be ?.....selfishness,greed,lack of love,despair,want things for free,jealousy,......you name it.

fanatics.....they are eiter brainwashed or have a mental problem IMO

criminals
why?
... ...they rather make $10 illegal than $20 in an honest way.They are to stupid to figger out being honest and work for what they want or need is much more agreeable and full filling.

since I am neither (IMO), I do not know.

Ever speak with one of these ?.....I have,...they think the world owes them everything for free.

Have a good day, and converse.


have a good day yourself
 

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Yes,the throw away attitude only seems to get worse,replace,..don't fix.
A zillion models that do all the same thing,...mow grass.
Every model has its own parts that doesn't fit any other model.

I needed brushes for a big starter for one of my tractors. 8 brushes at $25 a piece..$200.:rolleyes:
A new starter was $320,you go figure:confused2: guess what i bought.:wink:

This world is crazy.
I am, more or less, an advocate of the cheapest possible repair/fix.
Things are changing, but is this anything new ?
Is this good or bad ?
As to the brushes.....are there other sources ?
Probably NOT, if one captures and controls that market and then waits for the demand....
I'm am sure its NOT a "new" starter but a restored one , using those $25 brushes (discounted 90%)..
I do not trust business as I do not know all the particulars and details of business, I only make "educated" guesses.

I think that the world is "crazy" as we really do not know all the whys and whens and whos....and those in their Ivory Towers are not about to release this info and data.
 
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