21hp I/C Twin Hard Start and Surging

Carb is dirty. Clean or replace it first before messing with the governor.

Fuel lines now replaced were rotted out. Tells us maintenance was neglected. Oil had to be flushed out twice. Valve clearance most likely needs some love.

slomo
 
Richie F said:
If you're on a budget look on Ebay for a knock off replacement carb.
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THAT is a gamble. Carb might work fine. Then again might get a lemon. OEM Briggs is not that much more. You people have over $1,000 cell phones. You can afford a real OEM Briggs card.

slomo
 
slomo said:
THAT is a gamble. Carb might work fine. Then again might get a lemon. OEM Briggs is not that much more. You people have over $1,000 cell phones. You can afford a real OEM Briggs card.

slomo
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I have used knock off carbs in the passed with no issues.
The person is on a budget of $100, OEM is at least $200.
What is meant by the statement "You people have over $1,000 cell phones." ?
 
Richie F said:
I have used knock off carbs in the passed with no issues.
The person is on a budget of $100, OEM is at least $200.
What is meant by the statement "You people have over $1,000 cell phones." ?
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Most people have expensive cell phones. Then cry about fixing a lawn mower?? I bet you and your customer have a cell phone, that costs more than $100.00. And had no issue buying it.

If they can't afford $101 dollars then they need to sell their house and move into assisted living. Or possibly a place with no grass. Mower has to be fixed. Or you can not cut the yard and look like the several animals yards that live on my block.

On you having good luck with Chinese carbs, that's great. I have had good luck also. Just saying best to get a Briggs OEM carb. Lots of posts on here with carb issues from fleabay.

slomo
 
slomo said:
Most people have expensive cell phones. Then cry about fixing a lawn mower?? I bet you and your customer have a cell phone, that costs more than $100.00. And had no issue buying it.

If they can't afford $101 dollars then they need to sell their house and move into assisted living. Or possibly a place with no grass. Mower has to be fixed. Or you can not cut the yard and look like the several animals yards that live on my block.

On you having good luck with Chinese carbs, that's great. I have had good luck also. Just saying best to get a Briggs OEM carb. Lots of posts on here with carb issues from fleabay.

slomo
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Got my phone for free. Sign up and get a plan that way.
Honestly it sounds like you need to take a Midol.
"If they can't afford $101 dollars then they need to sell their house and move into assisted living. Or possibly a place with no grass. Mower has to be fixed. Or you can not cut the yard and look like the several animals yards that live on my block."
 
Richie F said:
Got my phone for free. Sign up and get a plan that way.
Honestly it sounds like you need to take a Midol.
"If they can't afford $101 dollars then they need to sell their house and move into assisted living. Or possibly a place with no grass. Mower has to be fixed. Or you can not cut the yard and look like the several animals yards that live on my block."
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Really? Who is giving out free cell phones and what is the address? Also sounds like your plan is free. You must work for a phone company or get a company cell. Good for you sir. (y)


slomo
 
slomo said:
Really? Who is giving out free cell phones and what is the address? Also sounds like your plan is free. You must work for a phone company or get a company cell. Good for you sir. (y)


slomo
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Verizon is one, T-Mobile is another.
Use Google it's your friend.
Mods I think this person is a troll.
 
cruzenmike said:
Up north for the weekend and my cousin's Craftsman LT1000 won't start without starting fluid. Had to spray fluid directly into the carb repeatedly for about a minute before it ran on its own. After it started running on its own it was surging really bad. If I pulled the choke about half way out it would smooth out and run without surging. The mower is quite old and desperately needs a tune-up which I plan to do, but as for he starting and running issues, what could the problem be? I am thinking that the carb might just need a rebuild but am lost. My cousin told me to just buy whatever parts it needs and get it back up and running so I just want to get an idea of what I will need.

Engine Info: 461707-0145-E3

Thank you.

Mike
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I have the exact same engine and problem.

I did all the obvious things to check and replaced gaskets and even got a $31 carb on ebay after rebuilding old one twice and all is still the same. I was thinking it was the governor too and a video online had it reversed. Turning governor counter-clockwise & tightening (someone mentioned it here on this thread too). A little adjusting on the gov and gov spring screw, and the idle screw on the carb got it back to close to normal and new. Still pops and surges a very little. I did notice air in the brand new fuel filter and tighten connections and is better, but I do see new bubbles occasionally and will replace the fairly new looking line from the gas tank to the filter if it fills with air again. The very last thing that has not been replaced is the Ignition Coil/Armature. Nothing left to replace on the machine after that. Right now it's running good enough but probably like you, you need it working perfect. Patience my friend. I've been working on this machine for months on the every wrong thing, or adjusting/replacing the wrong things or two things at once. Process of elimination and lot's of patience (setting governor pin/bolt counter clockwise) and setting any adjustable screw to Gov and Carb to the middle and tweaking after that got it to the shape it was before something wiggled loose. Scrubs WD40 trick also showed me there really was also a small air leak under carb. My thought on what originally happened was the governor slipped, and I messed up all settings after that, especially since I first adjusted it clockwise instead of counter-clockwise. Good luck! Mine finally is okay! I couldn't tell you the ONE thing that did it
 
Richie F said:
Verizon is one, T-Mobile is another.
Use Google it's your friend.
Mods I think this person is a troll.
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I called Verizon and T-Mobile. They do not and, never have offered, free cell phones and data plans. Calling BS on this one sir.

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