Phil Robertson makes news

[jekjr]

See ole Phil made the news one more time. Amazing that the people who disagree with something don't have the right to speak about it any more while those who do have the rights to do as they please. Looks like we no longer have any freedom of speech among many other things.

 

[wjjones]

I 2nd that Mr. Phil is entitled to his belief just like everyone else, and shouldnt be censored because of it. A&E should be ashamed of how they have handled this by turning their back on him. I have my right to my beliefs just like each, and every person in this country. If the persons he upset have the right to believe their way, and live their lives the way they do but he does not that is a load of crap. I dont judge its not my place to but they should respect his rights as well, and besides they ask him.. if they didnt want to know they shouldnt ask.

 

[KennyV]

I don't think 'Hate beliefs' qualify as a 'protected freedom of speech' issue...
Although he 'tried' to qualify it with: "He Never Saw"...
Anyone that has been through Louisiana Before the 60's Knows you didn't have to look very close to find massive discrimination... NOT just in Louisiana but Most if not all states. "Civil Rights" is more than an empty proclamation... It Should be available for all regardless of what others may "believe". And it should No be acceptable to imply that any particular wrong doing didn't exist prior to a national movement to correct it, That would be just too Misleading.
So when he "says he never saw blacks mistreated before civil rights in Louisiana". I have to think he is being a little less than totally honest. I'm in Kansas, and looking back at the 50's I know there was discrimination here, even with a very small black population.
It Should never be acceptable to allow someone to believe another part of the society has to have limited Civil Rights.

Having said that, I also Know that there are & always will be some that abuse anything... When there is an abuse, everyone should be willing to see it get pointed out, or have the courage to point it out themselves... :smile:KennyV

 

[MRCo.]

I'm just knd of entertained that people seem shocked that a guy in the deep south would be against homosexuality! Shock!

It's a storm in a teacup that's going Paula Dean...blown all out of proportion.

 

[Mike88se]

I had to google his name to find out who he was and what it's all about. Still not sure. It looks like he made some comments about his religious beliefs outside his show? I don't have a problem with that but I'm not religious and have no interest in the sex lives of others. I agree he has a right to his views but I'd bet he isn't an authority on scripture and I'm not sure why he felt the need to speak up about who inherits the kingdom of god and who goes to hell since it won't be him deciding that... if it's true.
I guess the bottom line to me is that A&E is a business and has a right to hire and fire who they will.
As far as the remarks on blacks before civil rights being happy... come on. Anyone who believes blacks were happy and content with less than full and equal rights and with discrimination and oppression would have to be out of touch with reality. My parents told me stories about growing up in Texas in the early to mid 20th century. If you were black back then I'd guess you were very careful dealing with whites or you ended up as strange fruit hanging from the trees as the old song goes.
And that's about as close to a religious or political discussion as I want to get

 

[jekjr]

I don't think 'Hate beliefs' qualify as a 'protected freedom of speech' issue...
Although he 'tried' to qualify it with: "He Never Saw"...
Anyone that has been through Louisiana Before the 60's Knows you didn't have to look very close to find massive discrimination... NOT just in Louisiana but Most if not all states. "Civil Rights" is more than an empty proclamation... It Should be available for all regardless of what others may "believe". And it should No be acceptable to imply that any particular wrong doing didn't exist prior to a national movement to correct it, That would be just too Misleading.
So when he "says he never saw blacks mistreated before civil rights in Louisiana". I have to think he is being a little less than totally honest. I'm in Kansas, and looking back at the 50's I know there was discrimination here, even with a very small black population.
It Should never be acceptable to allow someone to believe another part of the society has to have limited Civil Rights.

Having said that, I also Know that there are & always will be some that abuse anything... When there is an abuse, everyone should be willing to see it get pointed out, or have the courage to point it out themselves... :smile:KennyV

He was talking about working in the cotton fields and the fact that he worked in the fields alongside the black field workers. In other words he was in the same situation they were. Nothing racist said. He was in the same position.

 

[jekjr]

I don't think 'Hate beliefs' qualify as a 'protected freedom of speech' issue...
Although he 'tried' to qualify it with: "He Never Saw"...
Anyone that has been through Louisiana Before the 60's Knows you didn't have to look very close to find massive discrimination... NOT just in Louisiana but Most if not all states. "Civil Rights" is more than an empty proclamation... It Should be available for all regardless of what others may "believe". And it should No be acceptable to imply that any particular wrong doing didn't exist prior to a national movement to correct it, That would be just too Misleading.
So when he "says he never saw blacks mistreated before civil rights in Louisiana". I have to think he is being a little less than totally honest. I'm in Kansas, and looking back at the 50's I know there was discrimination here, even with a very small black population.
It Should never be acceptable to allow someone to believe another part of the society has to have limited Civil Rights.

Having said that, I also Know that there are & always will be some that abuse anything... When there is an abuse, everyone should be willing to see it get pointed out, or have the courage to point it out themselves... :smile:KennyV

It is amazing what people can come up with that is considered to be "hate" speech. If that is true then most of what the man said that set he firestorm off was quoted from the Bible almost word for word concerning the homosexuals and others.

Tat is what the First Amendment really says if Freedom of Speech.

 

[Carscw]

If they did not want to know what he thought then they should not have asked him. If the show ends or goes on I don't care. I watched it twice just to make sure I did not like it.


Hr should have been smart enough not to quote a book that was wrote in a way that you can use the words to mean anything you want it to mean.

The anti gay say the bible says no homosexual acts or thoughts.
The gays say there is homosexual acts in the bible.

The bible is wrote in a way that you can interpret it many ways to fit your needs.

Take ten men and sit them at a table and all ten will say one scripture says ten different things.

Before any of you jump me. Yes I am having trouble with religion right now I am Italian and grew up a catholic and married a southern baptist. Same bible but different interpretation of it.

Sorry if I offended anyone.

 

[reynoldston]

They say no religion or politics on this forum but I didn't start this. As I see it we are getting a little bit of both here. I have never watched his show and never will. The only reason is I don't watch TV anymore. I really don't see where he said anything wrong or right but just a bunch words that mean nothing. I am not religious and to me the bible is just a non-fiction book like any non-fiction book. You just read it for you own enjoyment.

 

[Ric]

Personally I think Mr Robertson had every right to say what he said. :thumbsup: Carscw has it right, If they did not want to know what he thought then they should not have asked him. With the backlash that is taking place with people and there petitions, with Governors, Congressmen and Senators now weighing in saying A&E is wrong I think before it's over A&E is going to be on the hurting end of this deal.