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Feb 14, 2013#1

CauZey

I recently bought a 5x10 medium duty landscape trailer that was a little rough but I've been sanding it and doing a little painting on it getting it ready for the season. I've also been mounting some tie strap hooks.

Lets post some pics of trailers and setups that we have and maybe share some good ideas!

I'm goin to finish painted the floor of the trailer tomorrow with rustolium truck bed liner . Anyone use that before??

Feb 14, 2013#2

C

CZLawnCare

Heres my little 4x7, i have another trimmer rack i havnt mounted yet and its temporary

Feb 14, 2013#3

CauZey

Nice how everything fits! I want to buy some trimmer racks next week. But I'm really thinking about getting the gorrilla lifts for my rear gate.

Feb 14, 2013#4

C

CZLawnCare

For trimmer racks go to tsc

They come to $100 with tax, thats including mounting bolts and pins

Feb 14, 2013#5

CauZey

Yeah I looked at them there. I just bought a spare tire mount from there two days ago.

I really want this tho haha

http://www.gorilla-lift.com/video.htm

Feb 14, 2013#6

C

CZLawnCare

Ya thats deffinatly good tp have and how much dis you pay the spare tire mount?

Feb 15, 2013#7

CauZey

It was 34 at tsc. But I lied I bought the same exacting at lowes for 28$? I think . Lowes has the same racks and tire mounts

Feb 15, 2013#8

Ric

If you don't mind ordering your racks try Jungle Jims Commercial Lawn Accessories/ Home/Jungle Jim's Accessory Products

Feb 15, 2013#9

Ric

Feb 15, 2013#10

lawn mower fanatic

There is another thread on a similar topic that was started over the summer. I will re-post some other users' pictures from people who responded to that thread so you can see more trailers: http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/commercial-residential-lawn-mowing/11499-lawn-care-trailer.html. :smile:

boston: "Does this count? Lol"
CZLawnCare: "This is my set up! (blower is my backup because my br 460 is in the shop)"
Ariena: "This is all I got!"
SandburRanch: "Being careful not to over load the trailer I put the Echo, weed whacking shin guards and a gallon of fresh water in the pickup. :laughing:"
Browns Lawn Service:
JBgreencontrol: "Heres ours. Been cutting for a little over two years."

Feb 15, 2013#11

CauZey

Sweet lookin rigs. I love the older mower with the case logo! I think my next trailer will be green.

Feb 15, 2013#12

lawn mower fanatic

CauZey said:
Sweet lookin rigs. I love the older mower with the case logo! I think my next trailer will be green.

I know......the CASE is really cool looking!

Feb 15, 2013#13

CauZey

After two coats of rustolium bed liner paint she's lookin good!

Now just need to add some reflectors and I'm good to go

Feb 15, 2013#14

Ric

CauZey said:
After two coats of rustolium bed liner paint she's lookin good!

View attachment 12282

Now just need to add some reflectors and I'm good to go

Looks really good :thumbsup:

Feb 15, 2013#15

lawn mower fanatic

Ric said:
Looks really good :thumbsup:

It does! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Feb 16, 2013#16

exotion

finished building mine today needs primer and paint (yes I know it wood)

Feb 16, 2013#17

CauZey

Why the side ramps on both sides?

Feb 16, 2013#18

exotion

CauZey said:
Why the side ramps on both sides?

In case I have to park illegally so ican drop them on the curb also makes loading in my backyard easier. So I don't need the truck hooked up to load

Feb 16, 2013#19

CauZey

Never thought about it that way! I was working painting mine and it was coming up on me as I stood towards the back so I just put a jack stand under it. Worked great. So I figure ill do that if I need to load my mower when my trailer is not hooked up

Feb 16, 2013#20

exotion

CauZey said:
Never thought about it that way! I was working painting mine and it was coming up on me as I stood towards the back so I just put a jack stand under it. Worked great. So I figure ill do that if I need to load my mower when my trailer is not hooked up

If you do that be sure to put a couple blocks on your tires

Feb 21, 2013#21

jekjr

Here's mine. Loaded out and ready to go. Cut two yards yesterday.

Feb 21, 2013#22

lawn mower fanatic

jekjr said:
Here's mine. Loaded out and ready to go. Cut two yards yesterday.View attachment 12423

Looks good! I like the toolbox on the front! :thumbsup:

Feb 21, 2013#23

jekjr

lawn mower fanatic said:
Looks good! I like the toolbox on the front! :thumbsup:

Toolbox is big enough for blower, hedge trimmers, chainsaw, air compressor, and more stuff. I love that rack for the trimmers. I looked at a Stihl however this morning that it will not work with. I am going to the dealer in a few more days and look at some more Stihls. Hopefully a smaller one than the one I looked at this morning will fit. If not then I am still not in good shape there.

Feb 21, 2013#24

lawn mower fanatic

jekjr said:
Toolbox is big enough for blower, hedge trimmers, chainsaw, air compressor, and more stuff. I love that rack for the trimmers. I looked at a Stihl however this morning that it will not work with. I am going to the dealer in a few more days and look at some more Stihls. Hopefully a smaller one than the one I looked at this morning will fit. If not then I am still not in good shape there.

Wow, you can fit a lot of stuff in the toolbox....that's great! :thumbsup:

Feb 28, 2013#25

CauZey

Almost done with mine! Greasing the bearings today and hope to buy a spare soon.

Mar 9, 2013#26

CauZey

Spare tire mounted plus some TSC weed trimmer racks! Ready for the season!

Mar 9, 2013#27

wjjones

CauZey said:
Spare tire mounted plus some TSC weed trimmer racks! Ready for the season!

View attachment 12798

How does the tire work out mounted there is it in the way, or do you get adjusted to working around it? I was thinking of mounting mine the same way so I can get it out of the truck bed.

Mar 9, 2013#28

CauZey

wjjones said:
How does the tire work out mounted there is it in the way, or do you get adjusted to working around it? I was thinking of mounting mine the same way so I can get it out of the truck bed.

Dunno yet I didn't have the mount last season. I don't think it will be bad tho it looks way bigger in the pic than it seems in person. And the trimmer racks are already in the way so I guess it won't matter much.

Mar 24, 2013#29

D

Dtchweed

Here is my Trailer

Mar 25, 2013#30

lawn mower fanatic

Dtchweed said:
Here is my TrailerView attachment 13332

I like how you made the side of your trailer a big billboard....free advertising! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Mar 26, 2013#31

M

MBTRAC

Not a dedicated landscaping/mowing trailer, but something I haul my JD415, LT155's, Iseki & Kubota B7100 FEL/BH's around on:-

This is my second attempt & maybe a little over the top, but has proved it's worth now many times for all sorts of tasks aeound the farms.
Basically it's a 11'6" x 6'3" modified 3.1 Tonne car trailer (10'2" 2.6Tonne fitted with crane) mounted with a Hiab crane/powerpack in a self loading/removable cradle so I can use the crane/powerpack independently of any trailer/truck mounting in the workshop & around the farms ( the crane was purchased reasonably, I already had the 5KVA genset & the 3KVA hyd pack to power it all up) - thought it might assist anyone looking for ideas for their trailer project "builds"
The crane/powerpack is made so it can to be easily removed & self loading to/from the trailer easily in less than c.10minutes, so after undoing a few bolts/cam locks it self unloads balanced by raising the module/cradle with the 2x hyd outriggers(which now both slide out to clear the sides of the trailer so trailer can be driven free from underneath the raised crane) & as the 3rd point of balance the lowered crane.
The crane powerpack/module is then lowered (secured by the same few bolts/cam locks) in a stand alone frame which has has 3PL tractor mounts also has a third manual outrigger for stability for independent use in the workshop or mobility around sites the farms on a tractor 3PL or stand alone use in the paddocks(it will lift c.3000lbs @ 6' to 1300lbs @ 12').
Out & about on farm sites the trailer crane /powerpack has proved extremely versatile, providing plenty of lifting capacity for yard/fencing/shed work, general repairs...etc., & the bonus availability of a genset, hydraulic power on hand......now if I can just add an air compressor, a welder & some LED lights on a telescopic pole, then maybe a hyd winch I think I might have the makings of a completely self sufficent outdoor "man cave"......if only I can get it back long enough from the mates who keep borrowing the thing.....
We usually team this up with our Landcruiser 6x6 which provides a mobile "on site" workshop capacity for most repairs/maintenance of our farm gear.

Mar 26, 2013#32

lawn mower fanatic

MBTRAC said:
Not a dedicated landscaping/mowing trailer, but something I haul my JD415, LT155's, Iseki & Kubota B7100 FEL/BH's around on:-

This is my second attempt & maybe a little over the top, but has proved it's worth now many times for all sorts of tasks aeound the farms.
Basically it's a 11'6" x 6'3" modified 3.1 Tonne car trailer (10'2" 2.6Tonne fitted with crane) mounted with a Hiab crane/powerpack in a self loading/removable cradle so I can use the crane/powerpack independently of any trailer/truck mounting in the workshop & around the farms ( the crane was purchased reasonably, I already had the 5KVA genset & the 3KVA hyd pack to power it all up) - thought it might assist anyone looking for ideas for their trailer project "builds"
The crane/powerpack is made so it can to be easily removed & self loading to/from the trailer easily in less than c.10minutes, so after undoing a few bolts/cam locks it self unloads balanced by raising the module/cradle with the 2x hyd outriggers(which now both slide out to clear the sides of the trailer so trailer can be driven free from underneath the raised crane) & as the 3rd point of balance the lowered crane.
The crane powerpack/module is then lowered (secured by the same few bolts/cam locks) in a stand alone frame which has has 3PL tractor mounts also has a third manual outrigger for stability for independent use in the workshop or mobility around sites the farms on a tractor 3PL or stand alone use in the paddocks(it will lift c.3000lbs @ 6' to 1300lbs @ 12').
Out & about on farm sites the trailer crane /powerpack has proved extremely versatile, providing plenty of lifting capacity for yard/fencing/shed work, general repairs...etc., & the bonus availability of a genset, hydraulic power on hand......now if I can just add an air compressor, a welder & some LED lights on a telescopic pole, then maybe a hyd winch I think I might have the makings of a completely self sufficent outdoor "man cave"......if only I can get it back long enough from the mates who keep borrowing the thing.....
We usually team this up with our Landcruiser 6x6 which provides a mobile "on site" workshop capacity for most repairs/maintenance of our farm gear.

Now that is cool! I like the Landcruiser! :thumbsup:

Mar 26, 2013#33

J

joshs handyman

Here's my set up seems to work real good, a lot of room for some things you always need.

Mar 26, 2013#34

lawn mower fanatic

joshs handyman said:
Here's my set up seems to work real good, a lot of room for some things you always need.

That looks really nice! I like the storage in the front, and I also like how everything is green...even the traffic cone! :tongue:

Mar 29, 2013#35

M

mowerguy

Still have a few things to make for it. But trying to get it ready to go now in the next week or two.

Mar 29, 2013#36

djdicetn

lawn mower fanatic said:
That looks really nice! I like the storage in the front, and I also like how everything is green...even the traffic cone! :tongue:

joshs handyman,
I'm taking bets on the side that you have a John Deere ZTR/Lawn Tractor:0)
I posted some pics today on the Gravely/Ariens forum(see link below if anyone wants to see my "bragging rights") of my Gravely with the Gravely Sunshade and the Advance Auto Parts Halogen Driving Light Kit I installed this winter. Next(when the yard really dries out from the recent Middle TN rain/snow flurries over the last two weeks) I'll be pulling the new "Gravely Red" 6x10 Lone Wolf Heavy Duty Tube Rail Utility Trailer that I bought directly from the manufacturer in Middle Alabama(took them about two weeks to build one and paint it red) around to the garage as soon as weather/yard conditions allow. I'll load the Gravely up on it and post some pics!!! Sooooo, do you have a JD????? If so, post another pic of your trailer with the JD on it so I can collect on my bets!!!!:0)

http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/gravely-ariens-forum/879-gravely-ariens-owner-check-read-first-5.html

P.S.
You may have to scroll up from the bottom of that thread because the "Manage Attachments" feature gave me a fit trying to upload all the pics in a single post.

Mar 29, 2013#37

J

joshs handyman

Mower

Good guess lol I have 2 820, and a billy goat vac that is green to lol with the attached pics you can see I tried to bring the flow to the dump truck without over doing it. I love the deere haven't had any problems but the push mowers a junk.

Mar 29, 2013#38

djdicetn

joshs handyman said:
Mower

Good guess lol I have 2 820, and a billy goat vac that is green to lol with the attached pics you can see I tried to bring the flow to the dump truck without over doing it. I love the deere haven't had any problems but the push mowers a junk.

Nice setup!!! And you've made me a rich man(just kiddin:0)
Sorry about the push mower, ole user lawn mower fanatic will chime in and tell you all the virtues of owning a Honda HRX(even though it doesn't come in green:0)

Mar 29, 2013#39

exotion

djdicetn said:
Nice setup!!! And you've made me a rich man(just kiddin:0)
Sorry about the push mower, ole user lawn mower fanatic will chime in and tell you all the virtues of owning a Honda HRX(even though it doesn't come in green:0)

Spray paint...

Mar 29, 2013#40

D

Dtchweed

Very Nice Trailers all look good and clean Good Job Guys:thumbsup:

Mar 29, 2013#41

D

Dtchweed

joshs handyman said:
Mower

Good guess lol I have 2 820, and a billy goat vac that is green to lol with the attached pics you can see I tried to bring the flow to the dump truck without over doing it. I love the deere haven't had any problems but the push mowers a junk.

Nice Job Josh

Mar 29, 2013#42

lawn mower fanatic

djdicetn said:
Nice setup!!! And you've made me a rich man(just kiddin:0)
Sorry about the push mower, ole user lawn mower fanatic will chime in and tell you all the virtues of owning a Honda HRX(even though it doesn't come in green:0)

exotion said:
Spray paint...

:laughing::laughing: Haha yeah!

Mar 29, 2013#43

lawn mower fanatic

mowerguy said:
Still have a few things to make for it. But trying to get it ready to go now in the next week or two.

joshs handyman said:
Mower

Good guess lol I have 2 820, and a billy goat vac that is green to lol with the attached pics you can see I tried to bring the flow to the dump truck without over doing it. I love the deere haven't had any problems but the push mowers a junk.

Those trailers both look great!! :thumbsup:

Apr 17, 2013#44

djdicetn

lawn mower fanatic said:
Those trailers both look great!! :thumbsup:

OK guys....I had to dust the cobwebs off of this thread:0)
I finally got the new Lone Wolf trailer out this past weekend, loaded the Gravely up on it and tried out the tie-down straps I bought(those 5 built-in tie-downs on the trailer sure come in handy). I took some pics and will post them below(the red didn't turn out to be an "exact match" for the Gravely, but it still looks good......I'm definitely not gonna go trade the Gravely for a Toro just to get a closer match:0)
Let me know what you think.

Apr 18, 2013#45

D

Dtchweed

Very Nice Trailer and Setup Looks Good Ready for Season Just wish Weather Here would straiten up Northern Iowa 38 Degrees tonight

Apr 24, 2013#46

D

Dtchweed

This is my new trailer 8 x 16 enclosed Trailer Ramp Door

Apr 25, 2013#47

djdicetn

Dtchweed said:
This is my new trailer 8 x 16 enclosed Trailer Ramp Door

Dtchweed,

Looks like you're rigged for some serious commercial mowing. How many customers are you serving(assuming you in the Professional Lawn Maintenance business)???

Apr 25, 2013#48

D

Dtchweed

Right now have 20 customers for Lawn Have 8 Bids out now so am hope will keep growing want to reach 30 by summer end

Apr 25, 2013#49

exotion

Dtchweed said:
Right now have 20 customers for Lawn Have 8 Bids out now so am hope will keep growing want to reach 30 by summer end

Nice I've been averageing a new customer every other day

small ones but they add up

May 1, 2013#50

C

CZLawnCare

Heres my new 6x10 open trailer:

May 1, 2013#51

jekjr

exotion said:
Nice I've been averageing a new customer every other day small ones but they add up

Awesome. We added three last week. Hope we can keep adding like that too. We want to get over 50 by the end of Summer if not more.

May 1, 2013#52

djdicetn

CZLawnCare said:
Heres my new 6x10 open trailer:

CZLawncare,
Man, that's a tight fit!!! Looks like you could really use a 6 X 12 trailer:0)

May 1, 2013#53

djdicetn

exotion said:
Nice I've been averageing a new customer every other day small ones but they add up

exotion,
That's great news!!!! I commend you for stepping out in faith that your decision to rely upon this business to support your family would work out. Keep doing good work and getting more and more business!!!

May 2, 2013#54

lawn mower fanatic

djdicetn said:
OK guys....I had to dust the cobwebs off of this thread:0)
I finally got the new Lone Wolf trailer out this past weekend, loaded the Gravely up on it and tried out the tie-down straps I bought(those 5 built-in tie-downs on the trailer sure come in handy). I took some pics and will post them below(the red didn't turn out to be an "exact match" for the Gravely, but it still looks good......I'm definitely not gonna go trade the Gravely for a Toro just to get a closer match:0)
Let me know what you think.

Dtchweed said:
This is my new trailer 8 x 16 enclosed Trailer Ramp Door

CZLawnCare said:
Heres my new 6x10 open trailer:

All 3 of those trailers look GREAT! I love looking at all the equipment that's on them! :biggrin:

May 2, 2013#55

stihl1229

I like the stihl

May 10, 2013#56

jekjr

Here is an inside picture of our new trailer with two Kubota's on it ready to go to work.

May 10, 2013#57

D

Dtchweed

looks like you are ready for lawns looks good nice job

May 10, 2013#58

lawn mower fanatic

jekjr said:
Here is an inside picture of our new trailer with two Kubota's on it ready to go to work.View attachment 14293

That looks really nice! Great trailer, Kubota, and handheld equipment!! :biggrin::thumbsup:

May 16, 2013#59

BHLC

Here's one of my trailers.

May 16, 2013#60

BHLC

Not a great photo of my mowing trailer but it what was on my phone. Haha

May 16, 2013#61

djdicetn

BHLC said:
Not a great photo of my mowing trailer but it what was on my phone. Haha

Nice looking Ferris and Bobcat mowers!!! How do you like that Sprinter travel trailer in the pic??? I have a 2007 TrailManor(the travel trailer that tows like a pop-up:0)
Mines 24' long 5' high when towing it and 31' long and 12' high when set up. My wife & I love camping on the area TN lakes!!!

May 16, 2013#62

BHLC

Ours is 32' trailer, it tows well, but it is built cheap. It seems like I have to do a little something to it each year we have it.

May 17, 2013#63

djdicetn

BHLC said:
Ours is 32' trailer, it tows well, but it is built cheap. It seems like I have to do a little something to it each year we have it.

We've had ours 6 years and the only major repair I've had was replacing the roof vents(we have since bought a nice Camping World Tyvek cover and if we had bought one 6 years ago the UV rays may not have made the original ones get brittle and need replacing). If you ever decide to trade, you should take a look at the TrailManor. They are a little more expensive than many regular travel trailers but definitely not built cheap either. I have the 3124KS and we love it!!! Below is a link if you want to take a gander:

TrailManor|Elkmont Lightweight Upright Trailer

Sep 23, 2013#64

exotion

Reviving an old thread but... I got a new trailer it suits me better for my needs than my old hand made one. This one is all metal except the storage box I built and the trimmer racks also the whole trailer can fit in my garage. My old one would barely fit with litterly one inch clearance on the sides this one has a about 4 feet clearance

Sep 23, 2013#65

C

CZLawnCare

Same here, i forgot to mention that i bought a 7x1y landscape trailer with 2 foot mesh sides, double ramp in the back, side ramp and tools and trimmer rack.

Sep 23, 2013#66

djdicetn

exotion said:
Reviving an old thread but... I got a new trailer it suits me better for my needs than my old hand made one. This one is all metal except the storage box I built and the trimmer racks also the whole trailer can fit in my garage. My old one would barely fit with litterly one inch clearance on the sides this one has a about 4 feet clearance

Nice...did you enclose the sides or was it already like that?

Sep 23, 2013#67

djdicetn

CZLawnCare said:
Same here, i forgot to mention that i bought a 7x1y landscape trailer with 2 foot mesh sides, double ramp in the back, side ramp and tools and trimmer rack.

WOW...that's a honker of a trailer(I've never seen one with the side ramp in addition to the rear ramp. I'll bet that makes unloading/loading a lot quicker!!!

Sep 23, 2013#68

exotion

djdicetn said:
Nice...did you enclose the sides or was it already like that?

Sides were like that it was also 500 bucks from friend

Sep 23, 2013#69

lawn mower fanatic

exotion said:
Reviving an old thread but... I got a new trailer it suits me better for my needs than my old hand made one. This one is all metal except the storage box I built and the trimmer racks also the whole trailer can fit in my garage. My old one would barely fit with litterly one inch clearance on the sides this one has a about 4 feet clearance

Looks like it fits your equipment nicely! :thumbsup:

Sep 23, 2013#70

lawn mower fanatic

djdicetn said:
WOW...that's a honker of a trailer(I've never seen one with the side ramp in addition to the rear ramp. I'll bet that makes unloading/loading a lot quicker!!!

There was one for sale locally that had double side ramps....but I don't know if it had a rear one.

Sep 23, 2013#71

TaskForceLawnCare

Here's my trailer with one of the two Dixie's. I quit loading both if we weren't going to use both. Then dumping some mulch with my 16' dump trailer.

Sep 24, 2013#72

lawn mower fanatic

TaskForceLawnCare said:
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Here's my trailer with one of the two Dixie's. I quit loading both if we weren't going to use both. Then dumping some mulch with my 16' dump trailer.

That's a nice and big trailer....with nice equipment! :tongue:

Sep 24, 2013#73

TaskForceLawnCare

lawn mower fanatic said:
That's a nice and big trailer....with nice equipment! :tongue:

Thanks my landscape trailer was actually made by a local manufacture. I ordered it direct and was able to have it specifically made exactly the way i wanted. LED lighting, side gate, heavy gauge diamond plate fenders front mount spare 4 wheel electric brakes. I even ordered it with 14" wheels instead of the standard 15" wheels. So it would sit 2"s lower and make it easier to drive the mowers on and off with out hitting the deck. It was only $2,200 from the factory.

Sep 24, 2013#74

lawn mower fanatic

TaskForceLawnCare said:
Thanks my landscape trailer was actually made by a local manufacture. I ordered it direct and was able to have it specifically made exactly the way i wanted. LED lighting, side gate, heavy gauge diamond plate fenders front mount spare 4 wheel electric brakes. I even ordered it with 14" wheels instead of the standard 15" wheels. So it would sit 2"s lower and make it easier to drive the mowers on and off with out hitting the deck. It was only $2,200 from the factory.

Yeah I'm sure that side gate comes in handy! Nice Echo 225's! :thumbsup:

Sep 24, 2013#75

TaskForceLawnCare

I just switched from stihl 55's this year to the echo's. We are really happy with them so far.

Sep 24, 2013#76

lawn mower fanatic

TaskForceLawnCare said:
I just switched from stihl 55's this year to the echo's. We are really happy with them so far.

I am, too!

Sep 26, 2013#77

BHLC

TaskForceLawnCare said:
<img src="http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17471"/> <img src="http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17472"/> <img src="http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17473"/> Here's my trailer with one of the two Dixie's. I quit loading both if we weren't going to use both. Then dumping some mulch with my 16' dump trailer.

Ever snap a power head off a trimmer with it located in the back? We broke off 1 this spring!

Sep 26, 2013#78

TaskForceLawnCare

I've never had any snap off, I'll bet that was wild. I've mine spaced where it sits between the controls and the head. I watch them a lot in the mirror and they hardly move. What brand trimmer and rack was you using. Just so i know

Sep 26, 2013#79

lawn mower fanatic

BHLC said:
Ever snap a power head off a trimmer with it located in the back? We broke off 1 this spring!

TaskForceLawnCare said:
I've never had any snap off, I'll bet that was wild. I've mine spaced where it sits between the controls and the head. I watch them a lot in the mirror and they hardly move. What brand trimmer and rack was you using. Just so i know

There was talk about this last year....this is someone that it happened to: http://www.lawnsite.com/showthread.php?t=353069

(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m177/mykayel/Trimmer1.jpg)

Sep 26, 2013#80

BHLC

Bingo! That's what happened to mine, it is the green touch industries rack. Never had a problem with it when it was on the front of the trailer, once I moved it to the back is when it happened, I had to get the engine support bracket they make for it

Sep 26, 2013#81

TaskForceLawnCare

Nice nothing would make your day more then that. I use the trimmer trap racks, i can't imagine that they are made to much different but now I'm kinda skeptical about racking my trimmers. I'm sure it's a matter of time before i break one. I guess it's the price we pay for convenience.

Sep 26, 2013#82

exotion

I use chunks of 2x4 with one side has a circle hole from a hole saw... One next to engine and one next to head workable great

Sep 27, 2013#83

A

afoulk

I wonder if having them mounted near the back of the trailer allows to much shock and vibration to go through the trimmers when hitting bumps in the road. My thinking is that if its mounted towards the front, having that pivot point at the trailer hitch, plus the suspensions on the trailer and the rear of the truck help to absorb more of the shock and vibration vs having them mounted at the rear where its going to take more shock and vibration because all you have in front of them is the trailer suspension? I could be way off too, I'm just guessing.

Sep 27, 2013#84

BHLC

afoulk said:
I wonder if having them mounted near the back of the trailer allows to much shock and vibration to go through the trimmers when hitting bumps in the road. My thinking is that if its mounted towards the front, having that pivot point at the trailer hitch, plus the suspensions on the trailer and the rear of the truck help to absorb more of the shock and vibration vs having them mounted at the rear where its going to take more shock and vibration because all you have in front of them is the trailer suspension? I could be way off too, I'm just guessing.

You are correct, that is the problem.

Sep 30, 2013#85

BHLC

Some of the trailer

Oct 6, 2013#86

exotion

I got these nice redding 8ft boxes for free I mounted.them to the sides.of my trailer

Oct 6, 2013#87

TaskForceLawnCare

exotion said:
I got these nice redding 8ft boxes for free I mounted.them to the sides.of my trailer

Those boxes are expensive thats awesome you scored those for free.

Oct 6, 2013#88

TaskForceLawnCare

BHLC said:
Some of the trailer

Nice set up, kinda looks familiar minus the color of paint on the mowers. Did you buy the bobcat, or still demoing it?

Oct 6, 2013#89

exotion

TaskForceLawnCare said:
Those boxes are expensive thats awesome you scored those for free.

My neighbor has let them set outside for like 5years there is a little rust on the tops of them and a few spots on the inside nothing o can't grind and paint. The doors and locks work great

Oct 6, 2013#90

Carscw

exotion said:
I got these nice redding 8ft boxes for free I mounted.them to the sides.of my trailer

Good score they will come in handy. And they really don't take up to much space

Oct 6, 2013#91

reynoldston

CauZey said:
I recently bought a 5x10 medium duty landscape trailer that was a little rough but I've been sanding it and doing a little painting on it getting it ready for the season. I've also been mounting some tie strap hooks.

Lets post some pics of trailers and setups that we have and maybe share some good ideas!

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I'm goin to finish painted the floor of the trailer tomorrow with rustolium truck bed liner . Anyone use that before??

Boy that looks like a heavy duty trailer. How much dose's it weight?

Oct 7, 2013#92

BHLC

TaskForceLawnCare said:
Nice set up, kinda looks familiar minus the color of paint on the mowers. Did you buy the bobcat, or still demoing it?

It's gone back for now, we are going to get two in the spring. They are great mowers. The hydros aren't quite as quick but the cut is amazing! Also being fuel injected, they use less fuel

Jan 30, 2014#93

Snapperfreak

5x10 is a good size. Not too big or small. I don't mow commercially but I've needed a utility trailer for awhile since I have a Tahoe and no way to haul anything big. Last year I found a 4x8 flat trailer on cl for $200. Not the harbor freight model, more heavy duty and all welded joints. Last fall I built sides for it and man that thing has come in real handy. The one thing I didn't do was seal the wood but I kinda want to find an all-steel 5x10 with a tail gate ramp in a couple years and sell this one. But this is good for now.

Jan 30, 2014#94

exotion

Snapperfreak said:
5x10 is a good size. Not too big or small. I don't mow commercially but I've needed a utility trailer for awhile since I have a Tahoe and no way to haul anything big. Last year I found a 4x8 flat trailer on cl for $200. Not the harbor freight model, more heavy duty and all welded joints. Last fall I built sides for it and man that thing has come in real handy. The one thing I didn't do was seal the wood but I kinda want to find an all-steel 5x10 with a tail gate ramp in a couple years and sell this one. But this is good for now.

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Nice I would paint the trailer looks to much like the hf trailer

Jan 30, 2014#95

Snapperfreak

Thought about painting it white so it's red/white (snapper colors!!) but not sure if I want to do all that.

Jan 30, 2014#96

exotion

Snapperfreak said:
Thought about painting it white so it's red/white (snapper colors!!) but not sure if I want to do all that.

Can of cheap white is 2.00 at Walmart spray paint

Jan 30, 2014#97

lawn mower fanatic

Snapperfreak said:
5x10 is a good size. Not too big or small. I don't mow commercially but I've needed a utility trailer for awhile since I have a Tahoe and no way to haul anything big. Last year I found a 4x8 flat trailer on cl for $200. Not the harbor freight model, more heavy duty and all welded joints. Last fall I built sides for it and man that thing has come in real handy. The one thing I didn't do was seal the wood but I kinda want to find an all-steel 5x10 with a tail gate ramp in a couple years and sell this one. But this is good for now.

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Looks nice! :thumbsup:

Jan 30, 2014#98

Mid TN Lawn

Photos of one of my trailers

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Jan 31, 2014#99

Snapperfreak

Now THATS a nice one

Jan 31, 2014#100

exotion

Mid TN Lawn said:
Photos of one of my trailers

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I like everything except the fifth wheel hitch takes up bed space which I would need but otherwise beautiful

Feb 1, 2014#101

Mike88se

They all look good. Making me want a trailer really bad lol. Need more lawns first.
I'm curious why more people don't paint trailers. If I had a trailer I'd want it to be very visible.

Feb 1, 2014#102

Mid TN Lawn

exotion said:
I like everything except the fifth wheel hitch takes up bed space which I would need but otherwise beautiful[/QUOTE
Trailer has front 3 yard box you can haul plants or mulch etc never need truck bed anymore its design allows you to mow and do up to 3 yard mulch job in same trip out. Once you pull gooseneck trailers you will not go back to bumper pull

Feb 2, 2014#103

wjjones

Mid TN Lawn said:
exotion said:

I like everything except the fifth wheel hitch takes up bed space which I would need but otherwise beautiful[/QUOTE
Trailer has front 3 yard box you can haul plants or mulch etc never need truck bed anymore its design allows you to mow and do up to 3 yard mulch job in same trip out. Once you pull gooseneck trailers you will not go back to bumper pull

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Mid TN you need one of those fifth wheel plates that you can flip the ball down underneath out of the way.

Feb 2, 2014#104

Mid TN Lawn

Its not a 5 th wheel its a gooseneck trailer and i have flip down ball in bed new trucks come with goosneck ball hole you just insert ball.

Fifth wheel trailers are like travel trailers/campers they have plate uses most of bed between fenders that locks around a kingpin.

Feb 2, 2014#105

Mid TN Lawn

You guys need to learn the three types of trailers
Bumper pull
Gooseneck
Fifth wheel
My trailers are almost all gooseneck cannot imagine pulling bumper pull in this business
Especially on enclosed trailers pay the 550-750 extra for gooseneck
One tongue weight is in bed of truck not out at bumper
Second you can spin in circles making backing and turning around better
Third smoothness of pull and weight capacity the trailer in picture can carry almost 10k pounds has 2 6k pound axles and brakes on both
Its like not having wood floors on trailers cannot imagine ever owning trailers without diamond plate floors

Feb 2, 2014#106

wjjones

Mid TN Lawn said:
You guys need to learn the three types of trailers
Bumper pull
Gooseneck
Fifth wheel
My trailers are almost all gooseneck cannot imagine pulling bumper pull in this business
Especially on enclosed trailers pay the 550-750 extra for gooseneck
One tongue weight is in bed of truck not out at bumper
Second you can spin in circles making backing and turning around better
Third smoothness of pull and weight capacity the trailer in picture can carry almost 10k pounds has 2 6k pound axles and brakes on both
Its like not having wood floors on trailers cannot imagine ever owning trailers without diamond plate floors

Yep the fifth wheel setup is like a tractor trailer, gooseneck still has to have the ball plate. I stick with the bumper hitch style because I dont cut that many lawns these days. I downsized years ago.

Feb 2, 2014#107

exotion

Hmm I line number style because I don't carry much

Feb 2, 2014#108

Carscw

I use a bumper pull 6x12. Never seen a need for anything bigger. Plus still have the 4x8 truck bed

Feb 2, 2014#109

exotion

Carscw said:
I use a bumper pull 6x12. Never seen a need for anything bigger. Plus still have the 4x8 truck bed

I had a truck bed trailer that was a pita and I personally didn't like the way it looked but they are functional, inexpensive, and light

Feb 2, 2014#110

Carscw

exotion said:
I had a truck bed trailer that was a pita and I personally didn't like the way it looked but they are functional, inexpensive, and light

What I meant was the bed of my truck not a truck bed trailer.

Feb 2, 2014#111

exotion

Carscw said:
What I meant was the bed of my truck not a truck bed trailer.

of course (face palm)

Feb 2, 2014#112

Mid TN Lawn

Carscw said:
I use a bumper pull 6x12. Never seen a need for anything bigger. Plus still have the 4x8 truck bed

How do you transport ztr and walkbehind and walkbehind blower and leaf loader and haul 9 yards of shredded leaves makes leaf clean ups easy.
Also this particular trailer you can haul 3 yards mulch in the front box and mower and walkbehind in rear

Also some days you need 2 ztrs and and walkbehind
Or how do you haul skid steer and option for anything else in front box
Also front box is great for hauling seasonal flats
And you can still have mowers
Last example on some jobs mulch must go long distances so we carry utv in rear and mulch in box is 3 yards without top on it and 9 yards with top

Feb 2, 2014#113

exotion

Mid TN Lawn said:
How do you transport ztr and walkbehind and walkbehind blower and leaf loader and haul 9 yards of shredded leaves makes leaf clean ups easy.
Also this particular trailer you can haul 3 yards mulch in the front box and mower and walkbehind in rear

Also some days you need 2 ztrs and and walkbehind
Or how do you haul skid steer and option for anything else in front box
Also front box is great for hauling seasonal flats
And you can still have mowers
Last example on some jobs mulch must go long distances so we carry utv in rear and mulch in box is 3 yards without top on it and 9 yards with top

Simple .. we just don't need to

Feb 3, 2014#114

Carscw

Mid TN Lawn said:
How do you transport ztr and walkbehind and walkbehind blower and leaf loader and haul 9 yards of shredded leaves makes leaf clean ups easy. Also this particular trailer you can haul 3 yards mulch in the front box and mower and walkbehind in rear Also some days you need 2 ztrs and and walkbehind Or how do you haul skid steer and option for anything else in front box Also front box is great for hauling seasonal flats And you can still have mowers Last example on some jobs mulch must go long distances so we carry utv in rear and mulch in box is 3 yards without top on it and 9 yards with top

Glad you found what works for you.

I would think with all your millions you would have more than one truck.
Maybe one crew for lawn care and one for landscaping.

Must suck to have just one trailer and have to figure out what you need for that day.
Everything I need for any job I do I have on the trailer at all times.

And use 1/3 the gas you use

Feb 3, 2014#115

Mid TN Lawn

Carscw said:
Glad you found what works for you. I would think with all your millions you would have more than one truck. Maybe one crew for lawn care and one for landscaping. Must suck to have just one trailer and have to figure out what you need for that day. Everything I need for any job I do I have on the trailer at all times. And use 1/3 the gas you use

One i have multiple trucks and crews
Two gas is same pulling bumper pull or gooseneck
Lastly you seem very angry or maybe your just constipated no wait you seem to have diarrhea only its coming out of your mouth

Feb 3, 2014#116

Carscw

The thing is your one of the guys that think your way is the only way to do things.
Trust me your work is not all that good. I seen a job you did with red mulch very amateur work. And we won't even talk about the grass at that house.

Feb 3, 2014#117

exotion

Carscw said:
The thing is your one of the guys that think your way is the only way to do things.
Trust me your work is not all that good. I seen a job you did with red mulch very amateur work. And we won't even talk about the grass at that house.

Maybe we shouldn't argue each others work here? Just saying

I like the trailer but its to big for most peoples needs. I like the little trailer I have the deck space is 3.5' x 8 I could fit a 36" mower and a push mower and that's all I will ever need

Feb 3, 2014#118

Carscw

exotion said:
Maybe we shouldn't argue each others work here? Just saying I like the trailer but its to big for most peoples needs. I like the little trailer I have the deck space is 3.5' x 8 I could fit a 36" mower and a push mower and that's all I will ever need

Ok your right

( this is me being nice )

Feb 4, 2014#119

Lawnboy18

Very interesting discussion at the end...

Some nice trailer setups around here!

Feb 27, 2014#120

Mike88se

Carscw said:
What I meant was the bed of my truck not a truck bed trailer.

Just to stir this up a bit

... I kinda like the idea of a truck bed "trailer." Like a flatbed with walls mounted on the truck. You'd need a long ramp tho. I think I saw a setup like this on one of those Japanese diesel trucks they use for wreckers/towtrucks. Looks easier to find parking for than a trailer. I've done one lawn where it's just not legal to park a trailer within walking distance. A 4 lane boulevard with no street parking allowed whatsoever.
I found a nice trailer I could afford but it was sold before I could gather the cash. Trailers are pricey around here or it seems like it to me.

Feb 27, 2014#121

lawn mower fanatic

Mike88se said:
...Trailers are pricey around here or it seems like it to me.

Sometimes there are some cheap ones at Tractor Supply.

Feb 28, 2014#122

jekjr

The trailer set up one uses basically is determined by the work they do and the location they live in I think. For instance a guy tht uses a push mower and small equipment can get by with a small trailer and nothing more. I see a guy in my area tht has a tractor type lawn mower and pulls a small trailer with the lawn mower with his trimmer and gas cans and hand held blower in it. On the other hand we pull a 16' V nosed cargo trailer with all of the equipment we need to do whatever we are doing. Most times in the Summer it has 2 zero turns, two sets of hedge trimmers, a chainsaw, pole saw, two string trimmers, a back pack blower, an edger, a couple of hand held blowers and gas cans. Also some tools, an air compressor and other supplies. Some times we still run up on something that we need that we don't have...... Or have to go home and unload something and load something in its place to get a job done.

Mar 1, 2014#123

Ric

jekjr said:
The trailer set up one uses basically is determined by the work they do and the location they live in I think. For instance a guy tht uses a push mower and small equipment can get by with a small trailer and nothing more. I see a guy in my area tht has a tractor type lawn mower and pulls a small trailer with the lawn mower with his trimmer and gas cans and hand held blower in it. On the other hand we pull a 16' V nosed cargo trailer with all of the equipment we need to do whatever we are doing. Most times in the Summer it has 2 zero turns, two sets of hedge trimmers, a chainsaw, pole saw, two string trimmers, a back pack blower, an edger, a couple of hand held blowers and gas cans. Also some tools, an air compressor and other supplies. Some times we still run up on something that we need that we don't have...... Or have to go home and unload something and load something in its place to get a job done.

Load capacity should be the first thing you should look at when purchasing a trailer, making sure it will carry what your going to be hauling and how much it weighs. Load capacity's don't necessarily have anything to do with the size of the trailer.

Mar 1, 2014#124

exotion

Ya my trailer is small but its rated for 2500 pounds

so I will never be afraid of loading it up. Down side to my trailer is I can never get anything bigger than 40" wide in there

Mar 1, 2014#125

Carscw

Very important to know how much a trailer can handle and what your putting on it weighs.
I put a counter weight off of a case excavator on a 5x10 trailer as soon as all the weight was on the trailer it blew the tires off the rims and folded the trailer in half. Was the hard way to find out it weighed 10,000 pounds and the trailer would not hold it.

Mar 1, 2014#126

exotion

Carscw said:
Very important to know how much a trailer can handle and what your putting on it weighs.
I put a counter weight off of a case excavator on a 5x10 trailer as soon as all the weight was on the trailer it blew the tires off the rims and folded the trailer in half. Was the hard way to find out it weighed 10,000 pounds and the trailer would not hold it.

Ouch.... I have regular trailer tires on mine right now I am going to see about putting some truck tires on it a little closer to the size of my truck tires for weight reasons and wear reasons remember if your trailer tires are smaller than your truck tires they wear faster

Mar 1, 2014#127

Ric

exotion said:
Ouch.... I have regular trailer tires on mine right now I am going to see about putting some truck tires on it a little closer to the size of my truck tires for weight reasons and wear reasons remember if your trailer tires are smaller than your truck tires they wear faster

You should replace your tires with the same size and load range tire that's on it when it was purchased new. Your trailer just like your truck is set up for the GVWR.

Mar 1, 2014#128

exotion

You don't think some regular 7ply tires wouldn't be better? Guess if of better to keep oem than that saves me a chunk of change

Mar 1, 2014#129

Ric

exotion said:
You don't think some regular 7ply tires wouldn't be better? Guess if of better to keep oem than that saves me a chunk of change

What do you think your going to gain by putting on a seven ply tire?

Mar 1, 2014#130

exotion

Less time before I have to replace.

Mar 2, 2014#131

Ric

exotion said:
Less time before I have to replace.

Well that may be but when you take into consideration the cost difference in the tires plus the weight difference and what it's going to cost to use them you'll be throwing money away.

Mar 2, 2014#132

exotion

Ric said:
Well that may be but when you take into consideration the costt difference in the tires plus the weight difference and what it's going to cost to use them you'll be throwing money away.

glad someone told me I was actually just looking into tires but I will wait I definately need a spare tho

Mar 2, 2014#133

BHLC

Ric said:
You should replace your tires with the same size and load range tire that's on it when it was purchased new. Your trailer just like your truck is set up for the GVWR.

You can however go to a radial instead of a biased ply tire, that will help the tire life. Our tandem trailers were chewing through the rear tires when they were bias. Now we run radial and we get two seasons out of them vs. one with the bias.

Mar 2, 2014#134

Ric

exotion said:
Ok glad someone told me I was actually just looking into tires but I will wait I definitely need a spare tho

Don't use a car tire on the trailer. How plys on a tire really don't matter that much, get what ever you want. They make Tires for trailer use only and they are a little cheaper and will and can be purchased for the load range of your trailer. I have the Kenda LOAD RANGE STAR K550 /75/15 and there trailer use only. It's a bias ply trailer tire and there designed to improve handling and enhance the ride characteristics of any towed vehicle.

Mar 2, 2014#135

Ric

BHLC said:
You can however go to a radial instead of a biased ply tire, that will help the tire life. Our tandem trailers were chewing through the rear tires when they were bias. Now we run radial and we get two seasons out of them vs. one with the bias.

Trailer tire construction is different from car and truck tires, therefore you need to choose the correct tire for your trailer or towing application. Look at your "Gross Vehicle Weight" (weight of load and trailer combined) when choosing the correct load range for your trailer. You never run a radial tire on a trailer unless it's designed for trailer use, it screws up the handling of the trailer plus they ware badly. Never put a car or truck tire/radial on a trailer.

Mar 2, 2014#136

Carscw

I try to get every mile I can out of a tire

Mar 2, 2014#137

exotion

Wow I would never drive on that

Mar 2, 2014#138

Carscw

exotion said:
Wow I would never drive on that

Ha ha 10 mins after I posted this pic I got a flat. Not this tire but same side

Mar 2, 2014#139

L

LoCo86

When i was doing lawn and landscaping heavy I buy used tires that are in good shape every two years from a local dealer. 5 tires for $100. They last about the same amount of time as new tires.

Apr 13, 2014#140

MountianViewMaine

Hey guys! New Years new member.. Here's my setup... This is my newest trailer.. I also have a 7x10 open landscape with a gate and a 16+ equipment trailer...
Everyone having a great spring I hope!

Apr 14, 2014#141

Lawnboy18

MountianViewMaine said:
Hey guys! New Years new member.. Here's my setup... This is my newest trailer.. I also have a 7x10 open landscape with a gate and a 16+ equipment trailer...
Everyone having a great spring I hope!

Spring is coming here! The snow is almost all melted.

Nice setup! I like the idea of the dump box on the truck. That way you can fill it up with mulch or dirt and do lawn mowing and overspreading/mulching during the day.

Apr 15, 2014#142

MountianViewMaine

Lawn care is a side gig for me.. We are a full service landscape design and build company.
Thanks!! Yes the snow is going fast thankfully! I'm ready to work after this winter!

Oct 16, 2015#143

S

sirrobbins

revival

Oct 16, 2015#144

Lawnboy18

Now that's a first! A Fiat doing lawn care. Setup loogs good tho.

Oct 16, 2015#145

lawn mower fanatic

Black Fiat, black trailer...looks sharp! And the Echo 770 blower makes it look even better! :wink:

Oct 16, 2015#146

jekjr

wjjones said:
Yep the fifth wheel setup is like a tractor trailer, gooseneck still has to have the ball plate. I stick with the bumper hitch style because I dont cut that many lawns these days. I downsized years ago.

It depends on what kind of truck you are pulling one with. I run a 2500 Dodge with a set of Super Springs under it. 6 spd manual with a Cummins. My 16' V nose with all equipment doesn't even squat the truck.

I actually have all three hitches. The bumper pull with my truck works very well.

Oct 16, 2015#147

exotion

When i see anything except a truck(don't care about condition or type) pulling a lawn trailer it makes me very mad.

Oct 17, 2015#148

Carscw

exotion said:
When i see anything except a truck(don't care about condition or type) pulling a lawn trailer it makes me very mad.

I don't use pick ups.
Right now I am using a Durango.
I have always used SUVs

Oct 17, 2015#149

Ric

Lawnboy18 said:
Now that's a first! A Fiat doing lawn care. Setup loogs good tho.

They make the hitches for the fiat and mini coopers so you can pull the lighter trailers.

Oct 17, 2015#150

lawn mower fanatic

Ric said:
They make the hitches for the fiat and mini coopers so you can pull the lighter trailers.

Lighter trailers don't put more stress on a car than if you were to be driving with some heavy passengers in the back seats. I wouldn't be pulling a dual-axel trailer with a couple zero-turns, but for light stuff I think it does fine.

Oct 18, 2015#151

Ric

lawn mower fanatic said:
Lighter trailers don't put more stress on a car than if you were to be driving with some heavy passengers in the back seats. I wouldn't be pulling a dual-axel trailer with a couple zero-turns, but for light stuff I think it does fine.

The Hitches on those cars are actually for bike racks and such. I've talked to the guys at the dealership when we had the MIni Cooper and the they told me they could pull a lighter trailer. They also said they would use the Country-Man or Club-man because they were larger and would be better to pull a trailer. The guy laughed and said it's not the idea that the car would pull a trailer because it would, it just didn't have the weight to stop the the thing and the weight of the trailer could just push the car down the road when you tried to stop.

Oct 18, 2015#152

lawn mower fanatic

Ric said:
The Hitches on those cars are actually for bike racks and such. I've talked to the guys at the dealership when we had the MIni Cooper and the they told me they could pull a lighter trailer. They also said they would use the Country-Man or Club-man because they were larger and would be better to pull a trailer. The guy laughed and said it's not the idea that the car would pull a trailer because it would, it just didn't have the weight to stop the the thing and the weight of the trailer could just push the car down the road when you tried to stop.

For heavier trailers I believe that, but mine is a 4x6 with angle iron sides....I could pull it home by hand when it's fully loaded if I needed to. :laughing:

Oct 18, 2015#153

jekjr

Ric said:
The Hitches on those cars are actually for bike racks and such. I've talked to the guys at the dealership when we had the MIni Cooper and the they told me they could pull a lighter trailer. They also said they would use the Country-Man or Club-man because they were larger and would be better to pull a trailer. The guy laughed and said it's not the idea that the car would pull a trailer because it would, it just didn't have the weight to stop the the thing and the weight of the trailer could just push the car down the road when you tried to stop.

Yep and under the right conditions you could drop a trailer wheel off in a hole and it would throw the thing out in the ditch like a kid throwing peas with a spoon.

Just because you can put a trailer hitch on something does not necessarily mean you outta pull a trailer with it.

In many situations the tow vehicle can be drastically over loaded but because it takes off and moves with the load the operator is clueless to the danger he puts himself and others around him in.

Oct 18, 2015#154

exotion

Ric said:
The Hitches on those cars are actually for bike racks and such. I've talked to the guys at the dealership when we had the MIni Cooper and the they told me they could pull a lighter trailer. They also said they would use the Country-Man or Club-man because they were larger and would be better to pull a trailer. The guy laughed and said it's not the idea that the car would pull a trailer because it would, it just didn't have the weight to stop the the thing and the weight of the trailer could just push the car down the road when you tried to stop.

Not only that but you lose functionality.... I would not be able to do my job without a truck. Client has a pile of sticks and leaves he asked me to get rid of I say sure with small fee of course. Plus occasionally bagging prunings etc I fill up my truck weekly. I see some suv driving around I assume they don't pay taxes, don't care about their work just trying to make an easy dollar. My favorite is when I see them putting down weed killer I'm on the phone with dept of agriculture I've seen a few get that beautiful $250000 fine nothing puts an idiot out quicker than that

Oct 18, 2015#155

Ric

exotion said:
Not only that but you lose functionality.... I would not be able to do my job without a truck. Client has a pile of sticks and leaves he asked me to get rid of I say sure with small fee of course. Plus occasionally bagging prunings etc I fill up my truck weekly. I see some suv driving around I assume they don't pay taxes, don't care about their work just trying to make an easy dollar. My favorite is when I see them putting down weed killer I'm on the phone with dept of agriculture I've seen a few get that beautiful $250000 fine nothing puts an idiot out quicker than that

I agree you lose total functionality. The truck has to many uses in the business to try and use a car. Like you say those guys probably are not licensed and are just trying to make a few extra dollars. If your in the business you definitely need a truck.

Oct 18, 2015#156

exotion

A quick Craig's list search I saw 10 trucks in running condition under 2000. To get licenced here costs $180 a year. Paying taxes sucks but that's America.

Herbicide licenses are expensive but the fines are worse if people don't want to play by the rules I let the authorities do it for me. Can't even put down granular weed and feed without a $1200 owner operator licence plus a $300 broadleaf weed control licence. Big trouble

Oct 18, 2015#157

Carscw

I will keep using my SUVs as I have done for years.

Some of you worry to much about looking like you make big money. Or looking like you are the lawn gods. Carrying 5 trimmers 4 edgers 17 blowers.
Wasting money just so you can say you have a over priced trimmer.

If you are hurting for customers so bad that you have to worry about the other guy. Then your not doing things right. Who cares if some clown has a license or how much they charge?
It should not hurt you either way.

Oct 18, 2015#158

exotion

Carscw said:
I will keep using my SUVs as I have done for years.

Some of you worry to much about looking like you make big money. Or looking like you are the lawn gods. Carrying 5 trimmers 4 edgers 17 blowers.
Wasting money just so you can say you have a over priced trimmer.

If you are hurting for customers so bad that you have to worry about the other guy. Then your not doing things right. Who cares if some clown has a license or how much they charge?
It should not hurt you either way.

Because that clown doesn't pay taxes as he should. I do so should he

Oct 18, 2015#159

Carscw

exotion said:
Because that clown doesn't pay taxes as he should. I do so should he

But you assume because someone does not drive the vehicle like you. Or use the equipment you use. That he does not pay taxes.

By him not paying taxes hurts him in the long run. But really does not hurt or effect you at all.

You don't see how anyone could do yard care with a suv I don't see how someone could use a new truck for yard care.
I have a 2015 dodge I would not use it for work.

Oct 18, 2015#160

exotion

Carscw said:
But you assume because someone does not drive the vehicle like you. Or use the equipment you use. That he does not pay taxes.

By him not paying taxes hurts him in the long run. But really does not hurt or effect you at all.

You don't see how anyone could do yard care with a suv I don't see how someone could use a new truck for yard care.
I have a 2015 dodge I would not use it for work.

No no I litterly just said I don't care about condition of truck and can find lots cheap on Craig's a landscaper needs a truck or he cannot do his job right. I'll report anyone I can they will learn they need to be licenced if they are then I wasted the authorities time .

You say you use an suv a customer approaches you asks you to remove a pile of tree branches say apx 2 cubic yards what do you do.

I would say ok it'll be $25 I'd throw it in my truck right then

Oct 18, 2015#161

TaskForceLawnCare

2015 truck, trailer was built specifically for me and picked up directly from the factory by me. Trimmer rack, line spool holder, blower rack, and spare tire mount. Led lights, electric brakes, 18' side ramp heavy diamond plate fenders.

I also pay taxes, insurance, licensing fees and 5 people on payroll during peak season. I'm not mad at the guy free styling skating under the laws. I just hope he isn't using any of the things my taxes are paying for. Like public schools, roads, police, fire, you get my drift. I could care less what that guy thanks about me. When I'm doing all the properties around what he's doing and his customer wants more they'll call me. The I'm

Oct 19, 2015#162

Ric

exotion said:
No no I litterly just said I don't care about condition of truck and can find lots cheap on Craig's a landscaper needs a truck or he cannot do his job right. I'll report anyone I can they will learn they need to be licenced if they are then I wasted the authorities time .

You say you use an suv a customer approaches you asks you to remove a pile of tree branches say apx 2 cubic yards what do you do.

I would say ok it'll be $25 I'd throw it in my truck right then

Whether you have a license or not is really irrelevant, like Carscw said the guy is just hurting himself but I wouldn't stoop so low as to turn the guy in either. Now I carry multiples in all my equipment and anyone who doesn't isn't really doing lawncare and if you don't your probably the guy that doesn't have a license.
Carrying multiples in equipment isn't about looking like you make big money or looking like you are the lawn gods it's about being prepared do the job, any job that comes up and not having to worry about down time should a piece of equipment go down. When it comes to the equipment I buy or someone buys you can buy what ever you like, what one person thinks is wasting money vs another person thinking is all just a matter of opinion and besides If a person is blessed with the ability to buy and use high end equipment it's not wasting money.

BTW Taskforcelawncare love the Truck:thumbsup:

Oct 19, 2015#163

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sirrobbins

as stated in another thread, this is part time until spring 2016. I will have another truck by then. I had an s10 that pretty much died on me with over 200k miles. I ordered the 500 with a hitch so I could tow jet skis and honestly, the lighter the trailer, the scarier it is. With the z master, there is no scares on bumps but I avoid speed at most cost so I don't worry about too much. Trailer, equipment are both insured as well as a piece of mind. I'm well aware that if that trailer went airborne with the z master that is would throw my car into a jack knife or at least off the road. It will be different after Christmas. I'll also be getting a much bigger trailer and picking up 36" walk behind again. No standers for me. Just can't get used to the controls.

Oct 19, 2015#164

Carscw

sirrobbins said:
as stated in another thread, this is part time until spring 2016. I will have another truck by then. I had an s10 that pretty much died on me with over 200k miles. I ordered the 500 with a hitch so I could tow jet skis and honestly, the lighter the trailer, the scarier it is. With the z master, there is no scares on bumps but I avoid speed at most cost so I don't worry about too much. Trailer, equipment are both insured as well as a piece of mind. I'm well aware that if that trailer went airborne with the z master that is would throw my car into a jack knife or at least off the road. It will be different after Christmas. I'll also be getting a much bigger trailer and picking up 36" walk behind again. No standers for me. Just can't get used to the controls.

Sometimes you just do what ever it takes.
As long as you are out there making money is all that matters.

Oct 19, 2015#165

TaskForceLawnCare

Here's the '95 Chevy 2500, it's usually got magnetic signs on the doors, got the golf cart loaded today to go clean up and trim bush bushes at a nursing home.

Oct 19, 2015#166

jekjr

At times we run three weedeaters at one time. I have a total of 6. Right now one is torn up and I am not sure if it is worth fixing or I will scrap it. I have three of those that are Echo PAS units so I can multi task with each of them. We have multiples of hedge trimmers and I have two back pack blowers and one hand held blower as well. Having that equipment seems to make my business run smooth and eliminates down time.

I also have a covered trailer, use a crew cab 2500 Dodge with a 6spd standard and a Cummins. Run two zero turns much of the time and have a third that we run some times as well.

Not sure what that is supposedly making me and my crew appear to be. It gets the job done. Some times we could use more.

Oct 19, 2015#167

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zmister11

jekjr said:
At times we run three weedeaters at one time. I have a total of 6. Right now one is torn up and I am not sure if it is worth fixing or I will scrap it. I have three of those that are Echo PAS units so I can multi task with each of them. We have multiples of hedge trimmers and I have two back pack blowers and one hand held blower as well. Having that equipment seems to make my business run smooth and eliminates down time.

I also have a covered trailer, use a crew cab 2500 Dodge with a 6spd standard and a Cummins. Run two zero turns much of the time and have a third that we run some times as well.

Not sure what that is supposedly making me and my crew appear to be. It gets the job done. Some times we could use more.

Yep, I work by myself. And I still have two zero turns, 2 edgers,3 trimmers, one backpack blower, hedge trimmer, hand held blower. One of my biggest things this year was to try to get atleast 2 of everything. Like you said, to eliminate down time.

Oct 19, 2015#168

Carscw

I get carrying 2 of everything.
But 5 trimmers for a 2 man crew.

All I am saying is it pisses my off when people judge others. Because they don't use what they use. ( truck, trimmer brand, mower brand.)

Maybe the guy doing yards with a riding mower in the back of is ranger. Don't pay taxes on the money he gets. Maybe it's side work just to pay the rent.
If you are worried about him then you need to step it up.
Me I will help that guy and give him the jobs I turn down. I know a handful of guys I give work to. I have not took on a new customer in a long time.

Oct 20, 2015#169

jekjr

Carscw said:
I get carrying 2 of everything. But 5 trimmers for a 2 man crew. All I am saying is it pisses my off when people judge others. Because they don't use what they use. ( truck, trimmer brand, mower brand.) Maybe the guy doing yards with a riding mower in the back of is ranger. Don't pay taxes on the money he gets. Maybe it's side work just to pay the rent. If you are worried about him then you need to step it up. Me I will help that guy and give him the jobs I turn down. I know a handful of guys I give work to. I have not took on a new customer in a long time.

Right now I have 5 in my trailer. Course like I said somewhere already in this thread I think, three of them are PAS system Echo. Therefore I use those same power heads to run one set of hedge trimmers, a pole saw, and an edger.

On a side note we all got started some where. For me I was a Cub Cadet trimmer and a Poulan hand held blower and a Zero turn on an 8' trailer. I despise laws and using laws to shut the new guy down when he is trying to get his feet on the ground to make a living is not a cool thing to do. Regardless of how hard we all try. It is impossible to be in compliment to the point that there is not something that we could be cited for. We have too many stinking laws on the books. Most were put there because of some lobbyist padding some law maker's pocket to make it harder for a little guy to comply.

Oct 20, 2015#170

Ric

zmister11 said:
Yep, I work by myself. And I still have two zero turns, 2 edgers,3 trimmers, one backpack blower, hedge trimmer, hand held blower. One of my biggest things this year was to try to get at least 2 of everything. Like you said, to eliminate down time.

I know plenty of one man crews that operate with what you have and more. I know one guy that doesn't leave his house with out having 4 mowers in his trailer, 2 Hustler Super Z's, a 36" GrandStand and a 30" TM push mower and he also carries multiples on all his hand held and blowers. A lot of what you do dictates what equipment you need to have or carry and like him I carry all my equipment when I go out.

Yeah anyone can go out and do lawn-care but the thing about carrying the right equipment and multiples is that it makes and leaves an impression on people. A nice truck, a clean trailer, clean mowers, being dressed appropriately, your price range, all those things matter if your out there trying to make a living at it vs trying to make beer money.

Oct 20, 2015#171

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zmister11

Carscw said:
I get carrying 2 of everything.
But 5 trimmers for a 2 man crew.

Maybe the guy doing yards with a riding mower in the back of is ranger. Don't pay taxes on the money he gets. Maybe it's side work just to pay the rent.
If you are worried about him then you need to step it up.
Me I will help that guy and give him the jobs I turn down. I know a handful of guys I give work to. I have not took on a new customer in a long time.

When I first turned 16 and got my license, I had a ranger. And a mtd lawn tractor. I used to use metal ramps and drive the mower into the back of the ranger. Lol that's how I started haha

Oct 20, 2015#172

Carscw

zmister11 said:
When I first turned 16 and got my license, I had a ranger. And a mtd lawn tractor. I used to use metal ramps and drive the mower into the back of the ranger. Lol that's how I started haha

I got started in the 80s with a old Chevy and a craftsman RER me and my helper would just pick it up. And slide it in the bed.

Oct 20, 2015#173

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zmister11

Carscw said:
I got started in the 80s with a old Chevy and a craftsman RER me and my helper would just pick it up. And slide it in the bed.

Haha that's crazy

Oct 20, 2015#174

Ric

zmister11 said:
When I first turned 16 and got my license, I had a ranger. And a mtd lawn tractor. I used to use metal ramps and drive the mower into the back of the ranger. Lol that's how I started haha

I started with a Cub Cadet LT 1045 with a 10ft trailer, srm-210, PE-200 and my little Homlite blower.

Oct 20, 2015#175

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zmister11

Ric said:
I started with a Cub Cadet LT 1045 with a 10ft trailer, srm-210, PE-200 and my little Homlite blower.

Nice! Hey Ric when did you start doing lawn care?

Oct 20, 2015#176

Ric

zmister11 said:
Nice! Hey Ric when did you start doing lawn care?

Well I started doing lawn-care for myself and started my business in 2001 but I did it for 23 years for the county before I got tired of there crap and took an early retirement.

Oct 20, 2015#177

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zmister11

Ric said:
Well I started doing lawn-care for myself and started my business in 2001 but I did it for 23 years for the county before I got tired of there crap and took an early retirement.

Ahh gotchya. That's cool

Oct 21, 2015#178

Ric

Carscw said:
I get carrying 2 of everything.
But 5 trimmers for a 2 man crew.

All I am saying is it pisses my off when people judge others. Because they don't use what they use. ( truck, trimmer brand, mower brand.)

Maybe the guy doing yards with a riding mower in the back of is ranger. Don't pay taxes on the money he gets. Maybe it's side work just to pay the rent.
If you are worried about him then you need to step it up.
Me I will help that guy and give him the jobs I turn down. I know a handful of guys I give work to. I have not took on a new customer in a long time.

Now I'm not trying to be argumentative here but it kinda looks like your contradicting yourself. I mean you say it pisses you off when people judge others but doesn't your first statement do just that.
My question to you would be as a one man crew or solo operator about 50% of the time why is it wrong for me to have all the trimmers and blowers along with all the other equipment I carry.

Oct 22, 2015#179

jekjr

Ric said:
Now I'm not trying to be argumentative here but it kinda looks like your contradicting yourself. I mean you say it pisses you off when people judge others but doesn't your first statement do just that. My question to you would be as a one man crew or solo operator about 50% of the time why is it wrong for me to have all the trimmers and blowers along with all the other equipment I carry.

I carry the same equipment whether I have a 4 man crew or I work alone.

The only time I unload and reload equipment is if we are doing a large shrubbery job I will unload mowers and load ATV and trailer or Pine straw baker and ATV or lawn tractor if we are going to bale Pinestraw.

Oct 22, 2015#180

Ric

jekjr said:
I carry the same equipment whether I have a 4 man crew or I work alone.

The only time I unload and reload equipment is if we are doing a large shrubbery job I will unload mowers and load ATV and trailer or Pine straw baker and ATV or lawn tractor if we are going to bale Pinestraw.

I carry all my equipment whether I'm alone or not also, because I never know what I'll end up doing and what I'll need. If anything bugs me about people and equipment it's those who show up to do a job and don't have the proper equipment to do that job and that others end up having to cleaning up after them.

Oct 22, 2015#181

exotion

Ric said:
I carry all my equipment whether I'm alone or not also, because I never know what I'll end up doing and what I'll need. If anything bugs me about people and equipment it's those who show up to do a job and don't have the proper equipment to do that job and that others end up having to cleaning up after them.

Yes, I don't carry everything I own but I carry everything I need/will need. 2 mowers 1 weedeater1 edger 2 blowers 1 hedge trimmer lots of hand tools.

I do have a distinct advantage being I'm never more than 10 mins from my house not that I've ever needed to come home forvanything

Oct 22, 2015#182

Ric

exotion said:
Yes, I don't carry everything I own but I carry everything I need/will need. 2 mowers 1 weedeater1 edger 2 blowers 1 hedge trimmer lots of hand tools.

I do have a distinct advantage being I'm never more than 10 mins from my house not that I've ever needed to come home for anything

Well I have that advantage also. I have a trailer odometer on the truck and since I got the truck the 30th of Sept I've pulled the trailer a total of 46 miles so far, Oct.30th I'll have the monthly total. I still take all my equipment with me. The only piece of equipment I leave at home would be the Echo BRD and I only use it when a client request it.

Oct 22, 2015#183

Carscw

Ric said:
Now I'm not trying to be argumentative here but it kinda looks like your contradicting yourself. I mean you say it pisses you off when people judge others but doesn't your first statement do just that. My question to you would be as a one man crew or solo operator about 50% of the time why is it wrong for me to have all the trimmers and blowers along with all the other equipment I carry.

Not judging just trying to understand why. A 2 man crew needs 4 trimmers , 4 edgers , 4 blowers.
If you need that many back ups then switch brands.
I carry 2 trimmers 1 edger 1 blower. 2 mowers.

2 person crew

Oct 22, 2015#184

Carscw

exotion said:
Yes, I don't carry everything I own but I carry everything I need/will need. 2 mowers 1 weedeater1 edger 2 blowers 1 hedge trimmer lots of hand tools. I do have a distinct advantage being I'm never more than 10 mins from my house not that I've ever needed to come home forvanything

My closed neighbor is 10 minutes away.

Oct 22, 2015#185

Carscw

Twice this year I wish I had 3 mowers with me.
Thanks to toro and the junk Kawasaki engines they use.
Not sure what I will go with next year but will not be toro.

Oct 22, 2015#186

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zmister11

Carscw said:
Twice this year I wish I had 3 mowers with me.
Thanks to toro and the junk Kawasaki engines they use.
Not sure what I will go with next year but will not be toro.

What toro mowers do you use?

Oct 22, 2015#187

Micah Haarhoff

Carscw said:
Twice this year I wish I had 3 mowers with me.
Thanks to toro and the junk Kawasaki engines they use.
Not sure what I will go with next year but will not be toro.

I have a Toro z master with a Kawasaki and it runs just fine the only thing I have ever done to it is the crankcase gasket and the deck clutch, The mower itself is 14 years old and runs great like it was new. always starts right up and has no problems whatsoever with it.

Oct 22, 2015#188

Carscw

zmister11 said:
What toro mowers do you use?

Z master professional 6000 72 inch deck
On its second engine. Don't like the deck.
Timecutter ss5000 50 inch deck
On its 3rd engine Many many drive belts.

Both less then two years old.

Oct 22, 2015#189

Carscw

Micah Haarhoff said:
I have a Toro z master with a Kawasaki and it runs just fine the only thing I have ever done to it is the crankcase gasket and the deck clutch, The mower itself is 14 years old and runs great like it was new. always starts right up and has no problems whatsoever with it.

I have a few older ones and love them.
The new ones are junk.

Oct 22, 2015#190

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zmister11

Carscw said:
Z master professional 6000 72 inch deck
On its second engine. Don't like the deck.
Timecutter ss5000 50 inch deck
On its 3rd engine Many many drive belts.

Both less then two years old.

Dang. I could see the timecutter going out. But I'm surprised that the 6000 is already on its 2nd motor.

Oct 22, 2015#191

Carscw

zmister11 said:
Dang. I could see the timecutter going out. But I'm surprised that the 6000 is already on its 2nd motor.

After the second Kawasaki I went with a kohler pro 20hp. Lots more power then the Kawasaki 22hp on the timecutter.

The 6000 started burning oil at 100 hours.
I like the mower all but the turbo force deck. Does good if grass is short and dry. Sux if grass is over a foot.
The drive set up is awesome no hoses to worry about.

Oct 22, 2015#192

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zmister11

Carscw said:
After the second Kawasaki I went with a kohler pro 20hp. Lots more power then the Kawasaki 22hp on the timecutter.

The 6000 started burning oil at 100 hours.
I like the mower all but the turbo force deck. Does good if grass is short and dry. Sux if grass is over a foot.
The drive set up is awesome no hoses to worry about.

Gotchya ,yeah no hoses are nice. Is their any mower that does cut grass a foot tall very well? That's seems a little tall lol

Oct 22, 2015#193

Carscw

zmister11 said:
Gotchya ,yeah no hoses are nice. Is their any mower that does cut grass a foot tall very well? That's seems a little tall lol

The timecutter blast threw it.

Oct 22, 2015#194

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zmister11

Carscw said:
The timecutter blast threw it.

That's crazy.I geuss if I wer you ide stick with the timecutters. Atleast their cheaper to replace.

Oct 22, 2015#195

Micah Haarhoff

Carscw said:
I have a few older ones and love them.
The new ones are junk.

our neighbor has a 2013 Toro with 190 hours and it's on it seconded clutch and he just uses it for his 1/2 acre yard he has done a lot of work to it already and it is pretty new

Oct 22, 2015#196

Ric

zmister11 said:
That's crazy.I geuss if I wer you ide stick with the timecutters. Atleast their cheaper to replace.

I'd say it's more than crazy?????

Oct 22, 2015#197

Ric

Micah Haarhoff said:
our neighbor has a 2013 Toro with 190 hours and it's on it seconded clutch and he just uses it for his 1/2 acre yard he has done a lot of work to it already and it is pretty new

I've got a Toro Z Master purchased at the end of 2014 and put 330 hrs on it this season and it runs perfect, never had any problems. I also have run the Toro Grandstand for three years and have just over 700 hrs on it and have never had any issues. Both run Kawasaki Engines and they have been great. The nice part is that I still have two years or 500 hrs warranty left on the grandstand.

Oct 22, 2015#198

Carscw

This is a normal yard that I use the timecutter on.

Oct 22, 2015#199

TaskForceLawnCare

Carscw- I run Scag mowers but I had Dixie Choppers up until late last year and I will say without reserve or bias that they absolutely loved bush hog height grass. I don't know the science behind why but what we have to bush hog now we would have cut with the dixies

Oct 22, 2015#200

jekjr

TaskForceLawnCare said:
Carscw- I run Scag mowers but I had Dixie Choppers up until late last year and I will say without reserve or bias that they absolutely loved bush hog height grass. I don't know the science behind why but what we have to bush hog now we would have cut with the dixies

You are saying that the Dixie Choppers will cut tall/stemmed grass better than the Scags itch the Velocity decks?

I have never run a Dixie Chopper but the Scags are good mowers.

Oct 22, 2015#201

Micah Haarhoff

Ric said:
I've got a Toro Z Master purchased at the end of 2014 and put 330 hrs on it this season and it runs perfect, never had any problems. I also have run the Toro Grandstand for three years and have just over 700 hrs on it and have never had any issues. Both run Kawasaki Engines and they have been great. The nice part is that I still have two years or 500 hrs warranty left on the grandstand.

he runs it HARD though so it is kind of understandable in other words he does not take care of his equipment at all.

Toro's are good machines so your warenty is 1200 hours and a 5 year on the grandstand or did I read that wrong?

Oct 23, 2015#202

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zmister11

Carscw said:
This is a normal yard that I use the timecutter on.

<img src="http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/attachments/commercial-residential-lawn-mowing/27624-post-your-trailer-setup-image-1112306501-png"/>

Geez that's tall. I probably wouldn't mow that with either of my mowers haha

Oct 23, 2015#203

Ric

Micah Haarhoff said:
he runs it HARD though so it is kind of understandable in other words he does not take care of his equipment at all.

Toro's are good machines so your warranty is 1200 hours and a 5 year on the grandstand or did I read that wrong?

Yeah, The Toro Grandstand Has a 5 year 1200 hour warranty and is one of the best mowers I've ever run. The Z Master Has a 4 year 500hour warranty. Running a machine Hard is fine but you need the correct machine for the job. You can't take a machine with a 4.5" to 5.5" max cutting height and expect it to cut grass that's two feet tall.

Oct 23, 2015#204

Carscw

TaskForceLawnCare said:
Carscw- I run Scag mowers but I had Dixie Choppers up until late last year and I will say without reserve or bias that they absolutely loved bush hog height grass. I don't know the science behind why but what we have to bush hog now we would have cut with the dixies

I agree Dixie are the best for bush hogging.

Oct 23, 2015#205

Carscw

Micah Haarhoff said:
he runs it HARD though so it is kind of understandable in other words he does not take care of his equipment at all. Toro's are good machines so your warenty is 1200 hours and a 5 year on the grandstand or did I read that wrong?

I do run my mowers hard. But I also take care of them.
I put over 600 hours a year on my mowers.
I have a 2006 toro with over 3000 hours on it
Only on its second drive belt. And never a problem with the EZT drives.

I like the timecutter because the drives never go bad. And deck parts are cheap.

Oct 23, 2015#206

Micah Haarhoff

Ric said:
Yeah, The Toro Grandstand Has a 5 year 1200 hour warranty and is one of the best mowers I've ever run. The Z Master Has a 4 year 500hour warranty. Running a machine Hard is fine but you need the correct machine for the job. You can't take a machine with a 4.5" to 5.5" max cutting height and expect it to cut grass that's two feet tall.

that's nice, what I meant is he runs them hard -as in trying to mow brush 1-2ft high as fast as he can and on the lowest setting then goes home after the yard he mowed looks like trash, because he doesn't care how it looks and then dumping it off the trailer and lets it rust untill next time he mows. He never cleans it off or anything. This mower is practically new and it looks like it's been sitting in the rain for 20 years

Oct 23, 2015#207

Micah Haarhoff

Carscw said:
I do run my mowers hard. But I also take care of them.
I put over 600 hours a year on my mowers.
I have a 2006 toro with over 3000 hours on it
Only on its second drive belt. And never a problem with the EZT drives.

I like the timecutter because the drives never go bad. And deck parts are cheap.

I mine hard and I also take care of them

Oct 23, 2015#208

Carscw

Micah Haarhoff said:
that's nice, what I meant is he runs them hard -as in trying to mow brush 1-2ft high as fast as he can and on the lowest setting then goes home after the yard he mowed looks like trash, because he doesn't care how it looks and then dumping it off the trailer and lets it rust untill next time he mows. He never cleans it off or anything. This mower is practically new and it looks like it's been sitting in the rain for 20 years

Who and what mower are you talking about?

Oct 23, 2015#209

Micah Haarhoff

Carscw said:
Who and what mower are you talking about?

It's belongs to a neighbor of ours he has a few rental homes he mows for and he leaves there yards looking like trash(literately)

The mower is a 2013 Toro Z 2000 (I am not sure what size deck ) with 190 hours It has rust holes in the deck and he does not spend money on it at all. He uses the cheapest kind of oil, and the wrong size belts ( he makes them fit I have seen him take a belt off his tractor and use it just because it "fit" ) He uses the wrong blades, just whatever is cheaper. The seat is all torn up and it is covered in rust it needs a paint job pretty bad

The only reason I told you all this was in response to your comment about the "new ones being junk" :laughing:

anyway he just says that he doesn't care and when it wont run anymore then He will just go find another one to use. (he says he will borrow one whenever he needs it)

Oct 24, 2015#210

TaskForceLawnCare

jekjr said:
You are saying that the Dixie Choppers will cut tall/stemmed grass better than the Scags itch the Velocity decks? I have never run a Dixie Chopper but the Scags are good mowers.

The Velocity deck cuts amazingly clean, but we had few new customers sign up kinda late this year and they didn't cut through that 12" grass like the dixies did. Once we got it knocked down and mowed a few weeks on schedule it started looking great.

Oct 24, 2015#211

Carscw

I have a couple friends trying to talk me into getting a scag.

Oct 25, 2015#212

jekjr

Carscw said:
I have a couple friends trying to talk me into getting a scag.

We are running two Tiger Cats and we love them so far.

Nov 6, 2015#213

Lawnboy18

Just read the last few pages (starting at 17). I don't understand how I didn't get notified since I am subscribed. Very interesting discussions.

I myself always run with backup. Three mowers (2x30" and a 21"), two trimmers and one blower (two if we are two). Things go well like this. I always bring what I need and extra. No point in bringing more stuff than that.

I say use what is best for you. I have mainly STIHL and some ECHO. I fell in love with the SRM-225. The rest is all STIHL. As for my truck, it isn't the truck of the year, but I try my best to keep it clean. Most important is the mechanical aspect. I am heavy on maintenance and also fixing rust. Can't stand rust. Gets shot with oil every year and rust spots get fixed.

I would feel bad driving a brand new truck for work. It will end up scracthed and dented.

Nov 6, 2015#214

lawn mower fanatic

Lawnboy18 said:
Just read the last few pages (starting at 17). I don't understand how I didn't get notified since I am subscribed. Very interesting discussions.

I myself always run with backup. Three mowers (2x30" and a 21"), two trimmers and one blower (two if we are two). Things go well like this. I always bring what I need and extra. No point in bringing more stuff than that.

I say use what is best for you. I have mainly STIHL and some ECHO. I fell in love with the SRM-225. The rest is all STIHL. As for my truck, it isn't the truck of the year, but I try my best to keep it clean. Most important is the mechanical aspect. I am heavy on maintenance and also fixing rust. Can't stand rust. Gets shot with oil every year and rust spots get fixed.

I would feel bad driving a brand new truck for work. It will end up scracthed and dented.

My scenario is different than most, as I am never longer than 10 minutes away from home. Most days I am no longer than 1 minute away. So I only bring what I need. I have a backup of everything, but only bring 1 of each on the trailer. Except leaf blowers, I always keep the handheld on the trailer even when I bring the backpack just because the area I put the handheld in is too small for the backpack, so there's no point taking it off.

Dec 1, 2015#215

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wyobiomass

Handling Lawn Clippings via Compacting & Packaging

We compact our clippings and then use a 8' trailer to haul 2 riders and two push mowers. The pac'r sits in back of truck and holds up to 2,000 pounds of clippings, freeing up space on the trailer to just haul equipment.

Dec 9, 2015#216

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LoCo86

wyobiomass said:
We compact our clippings and then use a 8' trailer to haul 2 riders and two push mowers. The pac'r sits in back of truck and holds up to 2,000 pounds of clippings, freeing up space on the trailer to just haul equipment. <img src="http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/attachments/commercial-residential-lawn-mowing/27762-post-your-trailer-setup-biopacr2012-jpg"/>

I'd like to see more pictures of your set up.

Jan 2, 2016#217

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sirrobbins

lawn mower fanatic said:
Lighter trailers don't put more stress on a car than if you were to be driving with some heavy passengers in the back seats. I wouldn't be pulling a dual-axel trailer with a couple zero-turns, but for light stuff I think it does fine.

It does quite nicely except on freeways exceeding 60 mph. Really struggles then. It's a turbo with a 5 speed manual. Would never try it with an automatic FIAT. I tow a gravely pro 1334G for the properties I do that are quite a distance. I use it for properties with small gates too. I have an interesting work list where properties with small gates I cannot get the Z Master through are separate from the others except when I don't have a problem using the walk behind all day. Because I use a FIAT, I bought the lightest, yet toughest axle I could get for under $1K. 5x8 leaves no room for 2 mowers if one is a zero turn. I'll be getting a truck and bigger trailer this year when summer kicks in. I'll be putting more pictures up this month when I add some sides and additions to my trailer

Jan 9, 2016#218

Ric

Lawnboy18 said:
Just read the last few pages (starting at 17). I don't understand how I didn't get notified since I am subscribed. Very interesting discussions.

I myself always run with backup. Three mowers (2x30" and a 21"), two trimmers and one blower (two if we are two). Things go well like this. I always bring what I need and extra. No point in bringing more stuff than that.

I say use what is best for you. I have mainly STIHL and some ECHO. I fell in love with the SRM-225. The rest is all STIHL. As for my truck, it isn't the truck of the year, but I try my best to keep it clean. Most important is the mechanical aspect. I am heavy on maintenance and also fixing rust. Can't stand rust. Gets shot with oil every year and rust spots get fixed.

I would feel bad driving a brand new truck for work. It will end up scratched and dented.

Why would you feel bad driving a new truck? I don't care if it's new or not, it's a truck and that's what there designed to do. If your worried about rust Buy a New Ford F-150 :smile: then you don't have to worry about rust because it will never rust.

Jan 9, 2016#219

Ric

exotion said:
Because that clown doesn't pay taxes as he should. I do so should he

I agree that running any business should be done according to to law. The individual that doesn't get the appropriate licenses and Insurances for there areas effects everyone that does. We all end up paying more in the long run.

Jan 9, 2016#220

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bertsmobile1

Ric said:
I agree that running any business should be done according to to law. The individual that doesn't get the appropriate licenses and Insurances for there areas effects everyone that does. We all end up paying more in the long run.

gee,
me agreeing with Ric first up in the new year and I did not even make a resolution
Have a good one folks

Jan 9, 2016#221

Ric

bertsmobile1 said:
gee,
me agreeing with Ric first up in the new year and I did not even make a resolution
Have a good one folks

Don't do me any Favors

Jan 9, 2016#222

Lawnboy18

Ric said:
Why would you feel bad driving a new truck? I don't care if it's new or not, it's a truck and that's what there designed to do. If your worried about rust Buy a New Ford F-150 :smile: then you don't have to worry about rust because it will never rust.

Well, it's expensive, and I take good care of my stuff. I know this truck will get dented and scratched some day. That is why.

Jan 9, 2016#223

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bertsmobile1

It all depends upn how you see your truck and we will all vary from a tool to do a job through to an expression of our masculine sexuality and everything in between.

I can never see value in new anything as it looses 1/2 to 1/3 the secound it crosses the showroom floor and I am competant enough to keep any old junkpile on the road nor don't need fancy new stuff to elevate my own perception of myself.
I have a problem with shinny new stuff as some one has to keep it shinny & new looking so somewhere along the line some one is paying for it.

I walk into a service center and see big empty bays with lots of tools hanging on expensive racking or in astronomically priced tool chests, I walk out.
I walk into a crowded shop with no space to put anything down, I ask for a quote.
Massive gleaming workshops cost a lot and do not produce any better outcome than a backyard mechanic and over the yers the workst service we got by far was from "showroom " workshops.

Jan 9, 2016#224

Ric

Lawnboy18 said:
Well, it's expensive, and I take good care of my stuff. I know this truck will get dented and scratched some day. That is why.

Yeah trucks are expensive but no more so than any other nice vehicle. I mean why spend the money on something that your not going to use or let sit in the driveway.
You buy a truck for work reasons not luxury, if you want luxury buy a car or an SUV, there great for taking the family out for the evening or going to the store for grocery's, taking the kids to ball practice or school they have there use's.
You can buy trucks with sprayed in bed liners to protect the bed. Your dealer can provide treatments like Xzilon to provide superior appearance and protection that last for years, wash the thing twice a year and never wax, always looks like new they even spray the carpets and cloth seats if you want it done.
You say you take good care of your stuff and that's a good reason to have new, that way your dealer takes care of everything. All the maintenance, changing oil and filters, tires and wheels you don't have to worry about anything and it's free under warranty.

Jan 10, 2016#225

Lawnboy18

Ric said:
Yeah trucks are expensive but no more so than any other nice vehicle. I mean why spend the money on something that your not going to use or let sit in the driveway.
You buy a truck for work reasons not luxury, if you want luxury buy a car or an SUV, there great for taking the family out for the evening or going to the store for grocery's, taking the kids to ball practice or school they have there use's.
You can buy trucks with sprayed in bed liners to protect the bed. Your dealer can provide treatments like Xzilon to provide superior appearance and protection that last for years, wash the thing twice a year and never wax, always looks like new they even spray the carpets and cloth seats if you want it done.
You say you take good care of your stuff and that's a good reason to have new, that way your dealer takes care of everything. All the maintenance, changing oil and filters, tires and wheels you don't have to worry about anything and it's free under warranty.

True, I do think about that too. It's a matter of perception. A brand new truck is also a very nice tax cut.

Jul 26, 2016#226

Saabo

My setup. Areins Ikon x 42"

Jul 27, 2016#227

Lawnboy18

Clean setup!

Jul 28, 2016#228

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cashman

This is a tilt style trailer that was used before the drop-gate style became popular. It is a Yazoo YT-10 trailer built in the 1960's. It was designed to haul this type of mower which is a Yazoo YR-60. It is also good for retrieving broken mowers. I've had this one for about 40 years and still use it frequently. A few years ago I hauled an Exmark Lazer 60 from Vidalia Georgia to Elk Grove California on it for my aunt that had moved. I also used it once to haul a buddy's Harley Davidson Street Glide from Pensacola Florida back to North Alabama after he had been in a wreck.

Thanks!!!

Jul 28, 2016#229

Lawnboy18

That is one tuff trailer! That mower looks really old and unique!

Aug 6, 2016#230

Lawnboy18

Here is mine

Aug 7, 2016#231

Ric

Lawnboy18 said:
Here is mine

I can see by tour trailer set up that your definitely not loyal to any company :biggrin:

Aug 7, 2016#232

Lawnboy18

Well I love all of them tho! The Exmark I had too because of the 30" cut. They are faster, cut amazing and we are less tired at the end of the day. I would of gotten an Exmark walk behind, but for the price difference, the Ferris was a good choice. The Bravo is not used much anymore, but is a fine mower.

Aug 7, 2016#233

Ric

bertsmobile1 said:
It all depends upn how you see your truck and we will all vary from a tool to do a job through to an expression of our masculine sexuality and everything in between.

I can never see value in new anything as it looses 1/2 to 1/3 the second it crosses the showroom floor and I am competent enough to keep any old junkpile on the road nor don't need fancy new stuff to elevate my own perception of myself.
I have a problem with shinny new stuff as some one has to keep it shinny & new looking so somewhere along the line some one is paying for it.

I walk into a service center and see big empty bays with lots of tools hanging on expensive racking or in astronomically priced tool chests, I walk out.
I walk into a crowded shop with no space to put anything down, I ask for a quote.
Massive gleaming workshops cost a lot and do not produce any better outcome than a backyard mechanic and over the yers the workst service we got by far was from "showroom " workshops.

Yeah we can vary but the impression you make on the clients says a lot about the job you will produce and or leave. I would say to never see value in anything that looses 1/2 to 1/3 the second it crosses the showroom floor is ridiculous because a car, truck, boat or anything else you buy for that matter will loose value after purchase.
You talk about service centers with empty bays, I sure would like to see that cause everything I find here is a two hour wait with expensive racking and astronomically priced tool chests. The problem with your theory is the days of the backyard mechanic are over because they can't work on the stuff that's out there today. It's called the computer generation.

Aug 7, 2016#234

BlazNT

I work on all my own equipment including my SUV with fuel injected engine. I can diagnose and fix cheaper and faster than any shop in town. As far as uppity people the need me to have a new truck so I can get a job are not my customer. I don't ever want a customer like that. I see those trucks and mowing equipment all the time and can only think how much they have to work just to make payment.

Aug 7, 2016#235

Carscw

BlazNT said:
I work on all my own equipment including my SUV with fuel injected engine. I can diagnose and fix cheaper and faster than any shop in town. As far as uppity people the need me to have a new truck so I can get a job are not my customer. I don't ever want a customer like that. I see those trucks and mowing equipment all the time and can only think how much they have to work just to make payment.

I know I have never not got a job because of my truck or equipment not being new and shiny.
Why would anyone buy a $40.000 pickup and use it for lawn care? Now they have to make $40.000 before they show a profit.
I also do all my own work on my equipment. I feel if you do lawn care then you should know how to work on things.

Was at my dealers picking up blades. There was a company there getting air filters put on their 3 mowers. 5 workers siting in the truck for 2 hours.

Aug 7, 2016#236

Ric

BlazNT said:
I work on all my own equipment including my SUV with fuel injected engine. I can diagnose and fix cheaper and faster than any shop in town. As far as uppity people the need me to have a new truck so I can get a job are not my customer. I don't ever want a customer like that. I see those trucks and mowing equipment all the time and can only think how much they have to work just to make payment.

I think it probably depends on what vehicle working on. On today's newer vehicles Ford, Chevy, Dodge or what ever and everything being computer programed you basically can't do much on a car or truck anymore unless you spend a fortune on the equipment to diagnose the problems and if you do that it will still cost an arm and leg to fix the problem on any newer vehicle. The thing about making payments on a vehicle and including it in your Lawn-care overhead is ridiculous, because regardless if I have my business or not I'm going to make payments on a truck, car and or home for the rest of my life unless I want to drive an old junk-pile as Bert said and live in a shack.

Aug 7, 2016#237

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bertsmobile1

Ric said:
Yeah we can vary but the impression you make on the clients says a lot about the job you will produce and or leave. I would say to never see value in anything that looses 1/2 to 1/3 the second it crosses the showroom floor is ridiculous because a car, truck, boat or anything else you buy for that matter will loose value after purchase.
You talk about service centers with empty bays, I sure would like to see that cause everything I find here is a two hour wait with expensive racking and astronomically priced tool chests. The problem with your theory is the days of the backyard mechanic are over because they can't work on the stuff that's out there today. It's called the computer generation.

Well so say you.
One of the reps called my shop a junk yard and he was probably right, it is a filthy mess.
However this is the off season down here right now.
I have 6 ride ons in the yard 4 chainsaws. 4 back pack blowers ( Br600 ) and 10 jobs waiting to be picked up.
The big box I have to buy my Husqvarna parts from has 4 out of 6 workshop bays empty and 2 mechanics on holidays.
They charge $ 140 / hr & I charge $ 60.
I pay myself award wages for a 40 hour week ( not at overtime rates ) and can run profit on less than 1/2 what the big box charges.
The shop up the road charges $ 90 / hr and he has 2 weeks wait.
Another big box has a service arrangement with a franchise lawncare chain , but I do all of the servicing for the 5 franchisees who live locally.
It is all about managing your overheads. I save them $ 12,000 / year and now they don't even change their oil or blades, I do the lot.
While a sparkleing gleaming well lit workshop looks good in advertisements, a $ 75 quotation fee to pay for it does not cut the mustard with the customers.
Neither does telling them when you will be open rather than being open when you are needed.
They drop a scheduled service mower off on their way home and pick it up ready to work in the morning on the way to their first job.
Service industries provide a service, not sell a product and if I have to buy new gear to service computer controlled fuel injected mowers then that is what I will have to do.
When I was delivering wine I picked up a big advantage from a small resturant that was making a massive profit and always fully booked.
They had a strange wine list and bought around 30 dozen bottles a week.
I asked the owner about one time and the reply was "I only stock the wine that my customers like to drink, so they come here to drink it "
It was very valuable advice and now I stock all the parts needed to service my customers mowers so no one waits a month while parts are on back order.

Aug 7, 2016#238

Carscw

I just don't get why people finance everything. I do not even have a credit card. I have a debit card just to order online. Everything else is cash.
Equipment cash. Trucks cash. Houses cash.
If you have been doing yard card for 5 or more years and you do not make a profit of 100 grand a year. Then find a new job.

Bad money management I see it all the time. People buy new trucks ever 2 years. For what ? Just to look good for other people. Or buying a $10.000 mower when a $3000 mower cuts just as good.
Or a $400 trimmer when a $150 one does the same job. Then on top of it still can not make a lawn look good.

I just picked up a store front. I charge $200 more per month then the company I replaced. It cost me less then half of what it was costing them to cut the grass. They have all the high Dollar mowers. But made the grass look like crap.

Aug 7, 2016#239

Lawnboy18

Don't forget Cars there are two extremes. You can finance everything or pay cash for everything. If you ask me, it is important to have a credit card. Having a credit card builds you a good credit score. I try my best to pay everything cash. But, sometimes a little financement doesn't hurt. I don't have a new truck. Mine is an 04 and if you look at my pictures it looks good. No rust and I clean it. Same with my machines. Not the newest (except Ferris), but they run and I do routine maintenance on them.

I do believe there is a difference between a 150$ trimmer and 400$ trimmer. The motor, the shaft, etc.

Aug 7, 2016#240

Carscw

Lawnboy18 said:
Don't forget Cars there are two extremes. You can finance everything or pay cash for everything. If you ask me, it is important to have a credit card. Having a credit card builds you a good credit score. I try my best to pay everything cash. But, sometimes a little financement doesn't hurt. I don't have a new truck. Mine is an 04 and if you look at my pictures it looks good. No rust and I clean it. Same with my machines. Not the newest (except Ferris), but they run and I do routine maintenance on them. I do believe there is a difference between a 150$ trimmer and 400$ trimmer. The motor, the shaft, etc.

I don't worry about my credit score. I will never need it.
Past 6 months I have been using a 2001 ford excursion with the 5.4.
I traded a Honda shadow for it. Had $1500 in the bike. This thing runs and drives like new.

Been running toro trimmers for a year now.
They do the same job a high dollar brand does.

Aug 7, 2016#241

Lawnboy18

Good for you then. I think we both have a different way of running our business and it's fine. As long as we make a profit and do a good job.

A competitor parks close to my shop. 65-70 K trucks, huge Kubota for snow removal, three container shop, enclosed trailers, etc. All mostly on payments. I don't know how he does it. His trucks are leases and all busted up...

Aug 7, 2016#242

Ric

Lawnboy18 said:
Don't forget Cars there are two extremes. You can finance everything or pay cash for everything. If you ask me, it is important to have a credit card. Having a credit card builds you a good credit score. I try my best to pay everything cash. But, sometimes a little financement doesn't hurt. I don't have a new truck. Mine is an 04 and if you look at my pictures it looks good. No rust and I clean it. Same with my machines. Not the newest (except Ferris), but they run and I do routine maintenance on them.

I do believe there is a difference between a 150$ trimmer and 400$ trimmer. The motor, the shaft, etc.

Having a good credit score can pay big benefits in the long run and having a credit card and financing a car, mower etc is a good way to build a good credit rating which in this day and age if you want anything in life is basically a must and it's not really an extreme. I really can't remember when I paid cash for anything. I use a Debit card for everything. The problem with paying for everything with cash is you always end up settling for less and it's hard to pay cash for everything when it's all direct deposited in the bank or CU. Besides how would you use cash to buy anything online or pay bills etc. :biggrin:

Aug 7, 2016#243

Lawnboy18

Ric said:
Having a good credit score can pay big benefits in the long run and having a credit card and financing a car, mower etc is a good way to build a good credit rating which in this day and age if you want anything in life is basically a must and it's not really an extreme. I really can't remember when I paid cash for anything. I use a Debit card for everything. The problem with paying for everything with cash is you always end up settling for less and it's hard to pay cash for everything when it's all direct deposited in the bank or CU. Besides how would you use cash to buy anything online or pay bills etc. :biggrin:

I don't say this to you often, but I agree with you. But, some just finance too many things and end up drowning in debt.

Aug 7, 2016#244

Ric

Lawnboy18 said:
I don't say this to you often, but I agree with you. But, some just finance too many things and end up drowning in debt.

Yeah I agree with you, you can go over board and end up hurting yourself. You have to watch what your doing and pay some things off before making to many purchases. Building good credit is like running a business, it's always covering your overhead.

Aug 7, 2016#245

Carscw

Paying with a debit card is paying cash as it is your money. Tell me how a good score helps when you pay for things with cash. ( do not finance)

Aug 7, 2016#246

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bertsmobile1

Buying anything on a credit card that you can not repay on the first statement is a plain stupid thing to do with the interest rates credit cards charge.
Particularly when you can get vendor finance interest free ( not really it is built into the cost price ) or at very low interest rates particularly near the end of the season when vendors are eager to get the stock off the floor.
I use my credit card for daily expenses and where possible for paying all bills except the monthly parts statements.
This is done for no reason other than keeping them all together so I have a very easy tax record.
The work card only ever gets used for work expenses.
Personnal expenses are paid cash with the debit card or real folding stuff.
This goes right down to grabbing a drink or pie when I get fuel.
The tax auditors did not believe me and spent a whole day marrying up line on the credit card statement to reciepts in the big big box of mixed up POS receipts .
This means at the EOM I have only 5 pieces of paper to worry about + adding up the payment in the diary & the direct deposit payment. Dead easy.

Aug 7, 2016#247

Ric

Carscw said:
Paying with a debit card is paying cash as it is your money. Tell me how a good score helps when you pay for things with cash. ( do not finance)

There's no cash involved with a debit or credit card transaction, it's automated funds. A debit is an ACH payment which is an electronic network for financial transactions in the US. They process large volumes of credit and debit transactions in batches at certain times of the day. That's how vendors paid and people get there Pension and Social security checks.

Aug 7, 2016#248

Lawnboy18

I pay credit because it ended up that way. With Debit the fee would of been higher. Visa keeps things simple. I always pay my Visa bill fully. I don't understand people that stack up expenses and only pay half + 20% interest.

Having a good credit can make it possible for you to buy a nicer bigger house, truck, cottage, dream boat, mower for a big job, etc. Also, if you do big landscaping jobs, the expenses can stack up and you may not have all the cash to buy the supplies. If you are happy with paying everything cash then good for you. But, according to me, you need to spend some to make some. Also, leasing is 100% tax deductible. So, why not instead of paying more taxes?

Aug 7, 2016#249

Carscw

Ric said:
There's no cash involved with a debit or credit card transaction, it's automated funds. A debit is an ACH payment which is an electronic network for financial transactions in the US. They process large volumes of credit and debit transactions in batches at certain times of the day. That's how vendors paid and people get there Pension and Social security checks.

A debit card uses money you already have in the bank. When 99% of the people in this world say they only pay cash. This is what they talk about. Paying cash means you bought a item without financing or putting it on a credit card. I thought everyone knew this.

Aug 7, 2016#250

Carscw

Lawnboy18 said:
I pay credit because it ended up that way. With Debit the fee would of been higher. Visa keeps things simple. I always pay my Visa bill fully. I don't understand people that stack up expenses and only pay half + 20% interest. Having a good credit can make it possible for you to buy a nicer bigger house, truck, cottage, dream boat, mower for a big job, etc. Also, if you do big landscaping jobs, the expenses can stack up and you may not have all the cash to buy the supplies. If you are happy with paying everything cash then good for you. But, according to me, you need to spend some to make some. Also, leasing is 100% tax deductible. So, why not instead of paying more taxes?

Have never heard of paying a fee to use a debit card.

Just because some do not have enough cash flow to back a big job or buy a new boat does not mean that others don't.
I pay my mortgage off every 3 years then take a new mortgage on the house I live in. This is only for tax reasons.
I spend around $60.000 a year on racing. tax deduction for advertising.
My feelings are if you have to finance it then you don't need it. I don't get how people can alway owe money.

Aug 7, 2016#251

Carscw

When I die my wife and kids will not have to pay my debts. Heck they could sell half my mowers and never have to work.

Aug 7, 2016#252

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zmister11

Carscw said:
When I die my wife and kids will not have to pay my debts. Heck they could sell half my mowers and never have to work.

Don't you run toro timecutters?

Aug 7, 2016#253

Carscw

zmister11 said:
Don't you run toro timecutters?

I do run timecutters for work.
Guess you missed the past 5 years that I have posted mowers. I have over 200 mowers. It's a hobby. I have some from the 30s that have never been used.

Aug 8, 2016#254

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zmister11

Carscw said:
I do run timecutters for work.
Guess you missed the past 5 years that I have posted mowers. I have over 200 mowers. It's a hobby. I have some from the 30s that have never been used.

That's pretty cool! I was just curious. But good for you.

Aug 8, 2016#255

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zmister11

Carscw said:
I do run timecutters for work.
Guess you missed the past 5 years that I have posted mowers. I have over 200 mowers. It's a hobby. I have some from the 30s that have never been used.

Where do u keep them all lol

Aug 8, 2016#256

Carscw

zmister11 said:
Where do u keep them all lol

I have a building that has 52 mowers In it. Around 20 in my shop. The rest are outside or under a carport.

Aug 8, 2016#257

Z

zmister11

Carscw said:
I have a building that has 52 mowers In it. Around 20 in my shop. The rest are outside or under a carport.

Dang that's crazy

Aug 8, 2016#258

Carscw

zmister11 said:
Dang that's crazy

35 years I been doing this.
You would crap your self if you knew how much some mowers are worth.
I have a 1976 mtd bicentennial garden tractor. Came factory painted like a flag. They made less then 100 of them.

Aug 8, 2016#259

Lawnboy18

Ever thought about doing a show about your mowers and stuff? Would be great!

Aug 8, 2016#260

Carscw

Lawnboy18 said:
Ever thought about doing a show about your mowers and stuff? Would be great!

I have brought some to local shows.

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