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Which should I get ---> Hustler Sport vs SnapperPro S50XT ?
#1
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shawnlc
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shawnlc
I'd like some of your professional opinions on the Hustler Sport vs the SnapperPro S50XT for a commercial startup? I'll be primarily focused on residential where the lots are small, typically less than 10,000 sqft lots.
The price difference out the door is roughly $1300 (SnapperPro S50XT more expensive). The SnapperPro has the commercial B&S engine where the Hustler has the residential Kawasaki engine. Both are 48" decks.
The price difference out the door is roughly $1300 (SnapperPro S50XT more expensive). The SnapperPro has the commercial B&S engine where the Hustler has the residential Kawasaki engine. Both are 48" decks.
#2
djdicetn
shawnlc,
Well the SnapperPro has HydroGear ZT-3100(serviceable) trannies whereas the Hustler Sport has the sealed Hydrogear EZT trannies. The Hustler Sport appears to come with a ROPS and the SnapperPro doesn't. What size decks are the two you are looking at(I assume they have the same cutting width). They both have 11gauge decks, so I would think that the Commercial B & S engine and the ZT-3100 tranny upgrades make up the difference in the SnapperPro's price. In all fairness, you should always try to compare "similar models" across brands. In other words, you really need to be comparing the Hustler Fastrak series(prices and features) to the SnapperPro. You'll find that the Hustler Fastrak also has the ZT-3100 Hydrogear trannies. Of course, I'm a little partial to the brand I bought, but would recommend if you have a nearby Gravely dealer that you check out the ZT HD or ZT XL series and compare them to the others(I actually made an offer on a Hustler Fastrak Super Duty, but the Gravely I bought had it beat on price and features). Below is a link to the Gravely website if you want to take a look online and locate a dealer to look at them.
Zero Turn Mowers
P.S.
I'm not a "professional" lawn care business owner, just a homeowner but I gave you my opinion anyway for what it's worth:0)
djdicetn
I'd like some of your professional opinions on the Hustler Sport vs the SnapperPro S50XT for a commercial startup? I'll be primarily focused on residential where the lots are small, typically less than 10,000 sqft lots.
The price difference out the door is roughly $1300 (SnapperPro S50XT more expensive). The SnapperPro has the commercial B&S engine where the Hustler has the residential Kawasaki engine.
shawnlc,
Well the SnapperPro has HydroGear ZT-3100(serviceable) trannies whereas the Hustler Sport has the sealed Hydrogear EZT trannies. The Hustler Sport appears to come with a ROPS and the SnapperPro doesn't. What size decks are the two you are looking at(I assume they have the same cutting width). They both have 11gauge decks, so I would think that the Commercial B & S engine and the ZT-3100 tranny upgrades make up the difference in the SnapperPro's price. In all fairness, you should always try to compare "similar models" across brands. In other words, you really need to be comparing the Hustler Fastrak series(prices and features) to the SnapperPro. You'll find that the Hustler Fastrak also has the ZT-3100 Hydrogear trannies. Of course, I'm a little partial to the brand I bought, but would recommend if you have a nearby Gravely dealer that you check out the ZT HD or ZT XL series and compare them to the others(I actually made an offer on a Hustler Fastrak Super Duty, but the Gravely I bought had it beat on price and features). Below is a link to the Gravely website if you want to take a look online and locate a dealer to look at them.
Zero Turn Mowers
P.S.
I'm not a "professional" lawn care business owner, just a homeowner but I gave you my opinion anyway for what it's worth:0)
#3
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KennyV
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KennyV
WELCOME to LMF...
What deck size are you looking at?
I'm curious why you are Not looking at the Hustler 'Commercial' line.
:smile:KennyV
What deck size are you looking at?
I'm curious why you are Not looking at the Hustler 'Commercial' line.
:smile:KennyV
#4
djdicetn
KennyV,
I thought the same thing, but didn't say it(I really wouldn't start a lawn care business.....no matter how small I thought customer yards were going to be....with a "Residential" ZTR instead of a "Commercial"). Worst thing that could happen is business grows quickly and strain of that causes ZTR to break down:0(
Could make for a short-lived "business" because paying customers probably don't care that you cannot afford an unexpected repair.....they want their yard mowed NOW!!! Might be best for user shawnlc to save up a couple $1k more and get something that would be durable enough if the business takes off.
P.S.
Is the "SnapperPro" and the "Snapper" different brands???? I first went to the "Snapper" website and could not find the mower user shawnlc was referring to. Then I googled "SnapperPro" and found it. At the bottom of the webpage it says "Briggs & Stratton Power Equipment Group"??? The "Snapper" brand isn't owned by B & S.....is it?
OK.....take that back....went back to the "Snapper" website and indeed it says the same thing at the bottom, so it "is" the same company and "is" owned by B & S(probably why that one he looked at had a B & S engine:0)
djdicetn
WELCOME to LMF...
What deck size are you looking at?
I'm curious why you are Not looking at the Hustler 'Commercial' line.
:smile:KennyV
KennyV,
I thought the same thing, but didn't say it(I really wouldn't start a lawn care business.....no matter how small I thought customer yards were going to be....with a "Residential" ZTR instead of a "Commercial"). Worst thing that could happen is business grows quickly and strain of that causes ZTR to break down:0(
Could make for a short-lived "business" because paying customers probably don't care that you cannot afford an unexpected repair.....they want their yard mowed NOW!!! Might be best for user shawnlc to save up a couple $1k more and get something that would be durable enough if the business takes off.
P.S.
Is the "SnapperPro" and the "Snapper" different brands???? I first went to the "Snapper" website and could not find the mower user shawnlc was referring to. Then I googled "SnapperPro" and found it. At the bottom of the webpage it says "Briggs & Stratton Power Equipment Group"??? The "Snapper" brand isn't owned by B & S.....is it?
OK.....take that back....went back to the "Snapper" website and indeed it says the same thing at the bottom, so it "is" the same company and "is" owned by B & S(probably why that one he looked at had a B & S engine:0)
#5
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KennyV
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KennyV
This is the Perfect forum to think about what mower to get... the "General Mower Discussion" group will most likely have residential grade ZTR's that the OP is asking about...
However like djdicetn suggests, it likely will prove worth the little extra $ to step up to a commercial grade machine...
There are also quite a few homeowner's running commercial grade mowers that may have a reliability/durability experiance.
:smile:KennyV
However like djdicetn suggests, it likely will prove worth the little extra $ to step up to a commercial grade machine...
There are also quite a few homeowner's running commercial grade mowers that may have a reliability/durability experiance.
:smile:KennyV
#6
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shawnlc
Looking at the 48" deck. The local Hustler dealer had quite a few of the Hustler Sport models. Didn't see any FastTracks.
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shawnlc
WELCOME to LMF...
What deck size are you looking at?
I'm curious why you are Not looking at the Hustler 'Commercial' line.
:smile:KennyV
Looking at the 48" deck. The local Hustler dealer had quite a few of the Hustler Sport models. Didn't see any FastTracks.
#7
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shawnlc
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shawnlc
Thank you djdicetn, that was pretty helpful.
shawnlc,
Well the SnapperPro has HydroGear ZT-3100(serviceable) trannies whereas the Hustler Sport has the sealed Hydrogear EZT trannies. The Hustler Sport appears to come with a ROPS and the SnapperPro doesn't. What size decks are the two you are looking at(I assume they have the same cutting width). They both have 11gauge decks, so I would think that the Commercial B & S engine and the ZT-3100 tranny upgrades make up the difference in the SnapperPro's price. In all fairness, you should always try to compare "similar models" across brands. In other words, you really need to be comparing the Hustler Fastrak series(prices and features) to the SnapperPro. You'll find that the Hustler Fastrak also has the ZT-3100 Hydrogear trannies. Of course, I'm a little partial to the brand I bought, but would recommend if you have a nearby Gravely dealer that you check out the ZT HD or ZT XL series and compare them to the others(I actually made an offer on a Hustler Fastrak Super Duty, but the Gravely I bought had it beat on price and features). Below is a link to the Gravely website if you want to take a look online and locate a dealer to look at them.
Zero Turn Mowers
P.S.
I'm not a "professional" lawn care business owner, just a homeowner but I gave you my opinion anyway for what it's worth:0)
#8
djdicetn
KennyV,
It wasn't easy, but I convinced my Financial Advisor(aka the wife) that buying a "Commercial" Zero Turn mower was a "retirement investment". She was used to me spending $2k-$2.5K on a nice lawn tractor so when I told her I wanted to spend $6k-$7k she was not convinced the extra $ was worth it. The points I made to sell her on it was:
1)Using a Commercial-quality ZTR for a 1.5 acre lawn would result in a machine that would outlive us both.
2)Other than normal maintenance costs, it is highly unlikely that there would be any substantial repair costs during retirement.
3)No lawn tractors have a 3-Year Bumper-to-Bumper Warranty and Lifetime Deck Warranty like my Gravely.
4)When I pass away, my son can inherit the ZTR and mow our lawn for her if she outlives me.
5)When my son passes away, our grandson can inherit the ZTR.
Of course, #5 got approval for the expenditure:0)
djdicetn
This is the Perfect forum to think about what mower to get... the "General Mower Discussion" group will most likely have residential grade ZTR's that the OP is asking about...
However like djdicetn suggests, it likely will prove worth the little extra $ to step up to a commercial grade machine...
There are also quite a few homeowner's running commercial grade mowers that may have a reliability/durability experiance.
:smile:KennyV
KennyV,
It wasn't easy, but I convinced my Financial Advisor(aka the wife) that buying a "Commercial" Zero Turn mower was a "retirement investment". She was used to me spending $2k-$2.5K on a nice lawn tractor so when I told her I wanted to spend $6k-$7k she was not convinced the extra $ was worth it. The points I made to sell her on it was:
1)Using a Commercial-quality ZTR for a 1.5 acre lawn would result in a machine that would outlive us both.
2)Other than normal maintenance costs, it is highly unlikely that there would be any substantial repair costs during retirement.
3)No lawn tractors have a 3-Year Bumper-to-Bumper Warranty and Lifetime Deck Warranty like my Gravely.
4)When I pass away, my son can inherit the ZTR and mow our lawn for her if she outlives me.
5)When my son passes away, our grandson can inherit the ZTR.
Of course, #5 got approval for the expenditure:0)
#9
wjjones
Yep..:thumbsup:
wjjones
This is the Perfect forum to think about what mower to get... the "General Mower Discussion" group will most likely have residential grade ZTR's that the OP is asking about...
However like djdicetn suggests, it likely will prove worth the little extra $ to step up to a commercial grade machine...
There are also quite a few homeowner's running commercial grade mowers that may have a reliability/durability experiance.
:smile:KennyV
Yep..:thumbsup:
#10
lawn mower fanatic
lawn mower fanatic
I moved your thread to the Mower Buying & Pricing Forum. :smile:
#11
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KennyV
Brilliant...
How about leaving it where it was???
Under "General Mower Discussion"
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KennyV
I moved your thread to the Mower Buying & Pricing Forum. :smile:
Brilliant...
How about leaving it where it was???
Under "General Mower Discussion"
#12
lawn mower fanatic
But we are discussing the mowers he is thinking about BUYING, and the PRICES that they are. :smile:
lawn mower fanatic
Brilliant...
How about leaving it where it was???
Under "General Mower Discussion"
But we are discussing the mowers he is thinking about BUYING, and the PRICES that they are. :smile:
#13
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KennyV
Strange... I DON"T see You discussing ANYTHING, I would just like to refer you to my post #5 ... Then to your "Brilliant" and Only post #10... Was that Deliberate?
Or do you just Not read these posts? 'Moving' a thread IS not part of any discussion... WE were discussing a choice of particular mowers to be considered for a commercial venture.
I guess if you were not paying attention you also could have thought it should be 'Moved' to "Commercial & Residential Lawn Mowing".
K
KennyV
But we are discussing the mowers he is thinking about BUYING, and the PRICES that they are. :smile:
Strange... I DON"T see You discussing ANYTHING, I would just like to refer you to my post #5 ... Then to your "Brilliant" and Only post #10... Was that Deliberate?
Or do you just Not read these posts? 'Moving' a thread IS not part of any discussion... WE were discussing a choice of particular mowers to be considered for a commercial venture.
I guess if you were not paying attention you also could have thought it should be 'Moved' to "Commercial & Residential Lawn Mowing".
#14
A_tank96
A_tank96
I have a residential ztr for my business just because it was the only thing I could afford. If you can, go with the snapper pro, or something closer to it on the Hustler line. the 3100 drives are going to be a heck of a lot better than the ezt drives....
A_tank96
A_tank96
#15
txzrider
txzrider
with the often quoted disclaimer of ... I am not a professional... I say go with the mower that is "repairable"!! something I learned from all of these pro's on this website is that residential is meant for a yard a week tops... not 5 yards a day. Being able to repair it and return it to service is paramount to running a successful business! I am a big fan of snappers in that I have not been able to wear out my snapper walk behind... and my 1st ztr was a snapper since they were the only ones at the time I could find sized to go through a residential gate. I bought my Country Clipper because it had a unique feature that made it much easier for me to service the deck and blades. Also because it was much closer to commercial than residential. Although it does not have repairable wheel motors. I got 15 years out of my Snapper zrider using it for 10 yards a month for the 1st year and then 2 times a month for the rest of the time. Had my income depended on it though I would have bought a commercial mower from the start.
#16
djdicetn
A_tank96,
I totally agree and I too tried to convince user shawnlc to compare the SnapperPro to others(Hustler Fastrak, Gravely ZT HD, etc.) that had at least the HydroGear ZT-3100 trannies. You're right(as is user txzrider) that attempting to start a lawn care business with an entry-level Residential ZTR is "risky business".
djdicetn
I have a residential ztr for my business just because it was the only thing I could afford. If you can, go with the snapper pro, or something closer to it on the Hustler line. the 3100 drives are going to be a heck of a lot better than the ezt drives....
A_tank96
A_tank96,
I totally agree and I too tried to convince user shawnlc to compare the SnapperPro to others(Hustler Fastrak, Gravely ZT HD, etc.) that had at least the HydroGear ZT-3100 trannies. You're right(as is user txzrider) that attempting to start a lawn care business with an entry-level Residential ZTR is "risky business".