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Wet plug

#1

Apollos7

Apollos7

I inherited a Craftsman rototiller. It ran rough and oil was coming out the OHV cover. I cleaned it up, cleaned the piston head, seated the valves, and put new seals and gaskets in. It ran great. I put it away for the winter. This spring I put new fuel and a little Sea Foam in, and tilled up my garden. It ran great. When I was done I tried to throttle it down while I cleaned it up. It stalled and would not restart. I pulled the plug, and it was wet. I dried it . It ran for a second and stalled. It did the same over and over. I took the bowl off, and the needle valve seemed to be holding. I decided to put a new carb on anyway. It did the same thing. The oil doesn’t seem to have any gas in it. The compression is 120. What’s going on?


#2

S

slomo

Removing the fuel bowl should of dumped fuel all over the place. From what you wrote, carb needle is sticking closed. Still no flow, remove or crack open the fuel cap. Cap is vented. If your cap is not venting, no fuel flow to carb. Would be like placing your hand over the fuel cap area. THAT will stop fuel flow to the carb.

slomo


#3

Apollos7

Apollos7

The tiller has a fuel shut off. When I raise the float, the fuel stops . When I drop it ,it flows. Even so, I tried a new carb. I think I can eliminate the carb.


#4

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slomo

Wet plugs, to me, sound like the needle is sticking open flooding the engine. Is this a 454 Chevy or a Mazda rotary engine? Post up your ENGINE numbers. Need to know what kind of carb you are working with.

So fuel is not the problem. Air filter plugged up 100%? No spark? You have good compression. I would change your air filter and the sparkler.

slomo


#5

S

slomo

Throttling down on a splash lube engine is not recommended. These small engines are not car engines with oil pumps. Some of these do have pumps. I don't know what you have.

slomo


#6

Apollos7

Apollos7

It is an INTEK I/C 206 6.5 hp
B&S 120412-0111-E1
I checked out the flywheel today. The key’s in place.


#7

Apollos7

Apollos7

I get a blue to orange spark on a gap tester set at .03”. Ohm meter reads .7 on the coil.


#8

Hammermechanicman

Hammermechanicman

Have you changed the spark plug?


#9

Apollos7

Apollos7

Yes, I got a new plug and so filter today. It started( just like when I dried the old plug) , but it kept running. It is lugging and puffing some smoke. I have a feeling I will be changing that plug again. It must still be getting oil in the cylinder. Maybe I need to get new valves. I polished the stems lightly with orchid cloth, when I put the new seals in. Well, no more throttling down . I shut the fuel shut off, and let her run out.


#10

Hammermechanicman

Hammermechanicman

. It is lugging and puffing some smoke

What color is the smoke?


#11

B

Born2Mow

When I was done I tried to throttle it down while I cleaned it up. It stalled and would not restart. I pulled the plug, and it was wet. I dried it .
I suspect you got some water on the air filter or into the fuel tank as you were cleaning. Small amounts of water (1/4 teaspoon) may be keeping the engine from getting gas, which in turn keeps it from running.

It's great that you know how to remove the float bowl. But you need to always pour the contents of the float bowl through a kitchen paper towel so you can spot any water in the fuel. (Gas will pass through while water "beads up".)

If water is in the tank, water could continue to enter the carb for several days... even after it gets running again. I like a clean engine too, but you've got to be extremely careful where and how you wash. Next time consider using a leaf blower.

And IMHO, nix the SeaFoam. That's not doing anything positive.


#12

S

slomo

+2 - Definitely use a leaf blower after mowing. As Born2mow was hitting on, I would dump the tank and flush it out.

slomo


#13

Apollos7

Apollos7

Grey


#14

Hammermechanicman

Hammermechanicman

Grey smoke is probably oil and not from overly rich mixture. I would look into an oil consumption issue. Rings, valves, breather, head gasket.

Throttling down the enginw will not hurt it.


#15

J

Joed756

If you have absolutely ruled out the carb, then exhaust valve and/or rings have to be the problem. Before getting too deep I would carefully inspect the fuel tank for any crap laying around and (I harp on this) the crankcase breather and tubing are clear and not overflowing.
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#16

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slomo

As Joed756 said, cylinder block vent hose to carb inspection time?

slomo


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