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I'm SO confused :confused2: ! I was under the impression that you were 14 (maybe 15) years old, Yet most of your posts sound like someone MUCH older ! How would someone of that age be driving (unless it is different in Scotland) ?????? :confused2: :confused3:

Most of what you say about driving in snow is good advice - common sense and caution are the best policy on snow and ice. Many people here don't understand that just because they have a 4WD or AWD that does not mean you can drive like a maniac and stop on a dime !

The closer they follow --- the slower I get !!!!!!!!!!!!

Good advice JM. However, around my neck of the woods, if you're going slower than the guy behind you you get tailgated, honked at, flipped off, and then when they do get an opportunity to pass, they usually cut back in front of you too close and slam on thier brakes. On ice/snow I just let off the gas and slow down even more to force them to pass me because sure enough, if they tailgate long enough I'll end up getting rear ended. Bunch of freakin' idiots around here. Mostly people from up north that think they know how to drive on the ice and snow. More than once I've caught up with some moron that just had to pass me so he could go the speed limit on the snow/ice and he's off in the ditch trying to flag down help and I just trundle on by and wave. Believe me, I've driven up north in the winter. Northern snow and ice is a lot different than the stuff we get here. Well, the snow is anyway, ice is pretty much the same everywhere. Plus they usually get a jump on it and have salt and sand down before it even quits snowing. Last winter we had an ice storm that pretty much shut down the northern half of the state for the better part of a week. Its a rare occurance, so the road agencies don't have the equipment to handle it. All the northerners were screaming about what morons we are down here for not being prepared, but they don't seem to realize you don't go spending millions of dollars on snow plows and other equipment that'll only get used once every 5 to 10 years. Of course the state and local gov'ts did cave to pressure and end up doing just that in a time when they should be cutting back on expenditures. In my 45 years in and around Atlanta, I can count on one hand the number of times that we had enough snow/ice to shut down the city for more than a day. We live at the bottom of a hill and the cul-de-sac was about 2 inches of ice and stayed that way for days due to runoff from up the street refreezing at the bottom of the hill every night. Meanwhile, when I was finally able to venture out, most of the wrecks and abandonned cars I saw had northern state license plates on them.

It's true I live off of exit 5 on I 20 last winter the side of the hwy was full of jeeps and mustangs

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BKBrown said:

I'm SO confused :confused2: ! I was under the impression that you were 14 (maybe 15) years old, Yet most of your posts sound like someone MUCH older ! How would someone of that age be driving (unless it is different in Scotland) ?????? :confused2: :confused3:

Most of what you say about driving in snow is good advice - common sense and caution are the best policy on snow and ice. Many people here don't understand that just because they have a 4WD or AWD that does not mean you can drive like a maniac and stop on a dime !

The closer they follow --- the slower I get !!!!!!!!!!!!

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I am 16, and I don't drive, my mother does, but I keep the car maintained (washed, tyre pressures, servicing etc...).

OK - that makes sense ! You still sound (in your posts) like you are older than your physical age. {that is a GOOD thing} :thumbsup: :biggrin:

Still don't understand why it is tires here and tyres there ?

They say I was never really a child at heart - always more like a grown up ! :biggrin: :thumbsup:

jmurray01 said:

I am 16, and I don't drive, my mother does, but I keep the car maintained (washed, tyre pressures, servicing etc...).

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I am from up north and moved to the ATL area. I do drive better than most of the locals here that think this snow and ice is tougher than northern snow and ice.

Let me by. I'll still stop and pull you out. If you slow down, don't gun it when I pass you up.

I have been down here just west of Atlanta for 20 years and still am amazed at how they go into a panic at the first snow flake

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Chev said:

I am from up north and moved to the ATL area. I do drive better than most of the locals here that think this snow and ice is tougher than northern snow and ice.

Let me by. I'll still stop and pull you out. If you slow down, don't gun it when I pass you up.

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I think you are the exception rather than the rule. I can predict with probably about 85% accuracy where someone is from by the way they drive in the snow around here. Generally if they're flying by going 20 mph faster than everyone else they're gonna have northern license plates, and generally those are the people that end up in the ditch at the first curve.

Please don't get me wrong. If there is a serious accident I'll stop if needed, just not for the a-hole that passed me a mile back and went flying on down the road at 60 mph in the snow and simply slid off the road into a ditch. I think a big part of the problem is that people rely too heavily on ABS and traction control, thinking they can go faster and not have to worry.

Carscw said:

I have been down here just west of Atlanta for 20 years and still am amazed at how they go into a panic at the first snow flake

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It amazes me too and I grew up here. I think its partly because they know what happens on the roads here. The snow almost always turns to ice and driving conditions get much worse. I used to love to take the car out and play in the snow in an empty parking lot somewhere, but I don't venture out in the snow or ice now unless absolutely necessary. Partly because our cul-de-sac turns into a skating rink and I can't get out and partly because I've been in too many serious wrecks, caused by others, to tempt fate by getting out in the snow with the maniacs around here.

Well I am an exception. Not many people learned to drive in Missouri winters with a soupped up El Camino. Smooth is the key.

A lot of people are not equipped to drive in the rain down here. Walk through a parking lot and check out the windshield wipers.

I guess kids down here don't get to play in the snow like I did. I can remember getting run out of the parking lots, or drifting the corners for sport. You learn a lot on the edge of death.

From what I hear Atlanta is not going to use gravel or sand this year they going to just use salt Not good for me I sell them river sand

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BK, I am someone who does not question the age of anyone when reading their post. However, I am really surprised to find out that JM is only 16. He writes and thinks like someone 3 of 4 times his age. I mean this as a compliment.

As for snow I find that people in my area tend to increase speed when it snows. I don't know if they are checking the limits of their vehicles or what. The biggest offenders are those with 4 wheel drive. I call it false security, these people think with 4 wheel drive the tires are glued to the pavement. I try to stay off the roads after a fresh snow fall.

Jmurray is 16??? Holy cow!!! I thought you were a crabby old man like JD. Lol

driving in winter is something i take very very very very seriously.I have to,because the other drivers usually don't.. With that being said, - ONLY- in isolated areas is were i do an extreme amount of throwing the vehicle around and drifting,braking, accelerating, etc, SO THAT when i am in the main stream of regular traffic conditions,there will NEVER be an incident where i would panic IF a certain traffic condition came about suddenly. Instinct and muscle memory take over in a nano second. i have seen over the years where WAY,WAY,WAY too many people freak out really bad when their vehicle makes an unexpected slight spin,and freeze up in the drivers seat,not knowing what to do:confused2: you really really really have to know your limits , know your cars limits , learn to read road conditions and above all r e l a x your mind, don't be tense.:biggrin::biggrin:

jmurray01 said:

My personal rule is when on snow keep below 40MPH, and when on ice keep below 20MPH, and when going round a snowy/icy bend, slow to half of that (20MPH for snow or 10MPH for ice).

Another thing I've learned this year, is not to lower your tyre pressures.

In the past I've lowered my tyre pressures thinking I was giving the treads more grip, but that has been proved wrong this year when I kept the pressures at the recommended numbers and we went out today without any skidding or wheel spin, unlike last winter with lowered pressures.



That's my two pence...

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The Truth is.....

I am 16, and I don't drive, my mother does, but I keep the car maintained (washed, tyre pressures, servicing etc...).

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Thank you for qualifying your advice, most of it good, however you must be aware that most of the members here have been driving longer than you've been alive. For you to imply that your knowledgeable when you are clearly not, is an insult.
Speaking of driving on snow and ice when you have no direct experience doing so is a misrepresentation at the best.
Here's my advice: You just be Jamie and everything will be fine, not the King, or the Prince just "Jamie Murray" the articulate lad from Scotland, no need to misrepresent yourself.
"Tut Tut"
That's my 2 pence

Wasn't personally offended, but many of us have probably spent more time driving in or on Snow and Ice than Jamie has even seen.

Most of the advice was good, but can't have come from much personal experience.

I understand most people on here have been driving longer than I've been alive, but you'd be surprised how many people I've seen in their forties and fifties who don't know the first thing about driving in snow, so experience doesn't always mean you know what you're doing.

I'm sure most people do know how to drive in snowy conditions, but I thought I'd post this thread just to get my advise across to people who didn't know. I wasn't trying to patronise anybody.

Parkmower said:

Jmurray is 16??? Holy cow!!! I thought you were a crabby old man like JD. Lol

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You're not the first person to say that, and you'll probably not be the last! :laughing:

jmurray01 said:

but you'd be surprised how many people I've seen in their forties and fifties who don't know the first thing about driving in snow,

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Wait for it......

jmurray01 said:

so experience doesn't always mean you know what you're doing.

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Give it another few years and we'll see if you know how to drive in the snow before you start critiquing other's driving.


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The scottsman must be thinking we come out an egg,telling us how to drive in winter weather

Bison said:

The scottsman must be thinking we come out an egg,telling us how to drive in winter weather

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Now now, everybody knows babies don't come out of eggs, they are delivered by swans! :confused2: