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#1

reynoldston

reynoldston

It just seems for some reason this summer I have had more then normal snakes around my house and yard. I just don't care for them hanging around my house and my feeling is that the only good snake is a dead one.. I have been bagging them up live and giving them a throw into a drainage ditch that runs by my house with hopes they keep out of my yard and maybe drown in the water. Don't know what good a snake is other then they stink bad and they sure look healthy to me. I have been told that moth balls will keep them away so I will try that?? Living in NY state I don't think we have poison snakes I hope., but don't know how to tell the differences. Too bad I can't ship them all down to the southern states to all the snake lovers.


#2

Russ2251

Russ2251

Good thing snakes are good swimmers...they are there to stay my friend.
Snakes were once very plentiful here in Huntington NY.
I don't think I've seen one (wild) in probably 4 decades or more.


#3

Scrubcadet10

Scrubcadet10

We've killed 3 copperheads and 1 cottonmouth around our house this year.
Dogs bark at them and I get a shovel and Kill em.


#4

reynoldston

reynoldston

Good thing snakes are good swimmers...they are there to stay my friend.

For some reason they go to the bottom of the water so I was in hope they stay there or if they do swim go down stream. I have killed them with a round pointed shovel but don't care for the kill, blood, and mess.


#5

B

bertsmobile1

Down here over 75 % of fatal snake bites are to the right forearm , hand or wrist
Why?
because wife tells hubby there is a snake
Hubby grabs the shovel and attempts to speer the snake with it.
Snake runs right up the handle cause it is faster than he is.
With a brown snake you then have 15 minutes to get the anti-dote and when you do it will cost $ 1500 for the first shot and $1200 for the second.
Even worse the idiot "heros" do it in short sleeves and no gloves.
All the snakes down here have short fangs so loose heavy clothing is the best defence .

Most snakes are territorial so it is just a matter of educating yourself about which are the "safe" snakes and which are the dangerous ones.
You then set your yard up to make it a prefferred habitat for the "safe" snakes and in most cases they will keep the dangerous ones at bay.

Down here I get black, brown , whip & green snakes plus diamond , carpet , and green tree pythons.
They pythons all get ignored, worst case is if you step or one or shove a naked hand into one the bite might get infected.
Pythons over 15' are a problem for babies under 1 but most wont bother you at all.
Right now there is 20' of carpet python in the roof cavity of the workshop so there are no pest birds nesting in there , well not for long anyway.
Every now & then I catch a glance of 10' hanging out of the eves in the morning sun.

The black snakes eat frogs, reptiles ( including baby snakes ) & eggs, they are shy so a 20' snake will slither away when they feel the vibrations of your footsteps or smell you coming.
So you put some frog ponds near the house with roof drains flowing through pipes into them and remember not to shove your hand up any pipe.
They will then inhabit the area around the house and keep the other ground snakes away.
The only real concession to them is always to stand to the side when you open a shed door so you are not blocking their escape.
A friend who is up country opens his garage door then walks around the back and strikes the wall a few times with a broom
Nothing odd to see 5 or more blacks scooting out the open door.

Brown snakes eat mammals so you put the chook shed on the other side of the frog ponds to the house.
Rats & mice come in over night to eat the seed that the chooks throw everywhere and the snakes come in to feed on the rats & mice.
It is all a matter of working with nature rather than against it.
We also provide nest boxes for Kookaburras & Magpies, both of which love baby snakes.

Trying to erradicate any species is a no win situation.
Firstly you will not do it and secondly you allow their natural prey numbers to build up to plague numbers.
A couple of snakes can eat a very large number of rats , mice, moles and other things that create havock around your property.


#6

BWH

BWH

Down here over 75 % of fatal snake bites are to the right forearm , hand or wrist
Why?
because wife tells hubby there is a snake
Hubby grabs the shovel and attempts to speer the snake with it.
Snake runs right up the handle cause it is faster than he is.
With a brown snake you then have 15 minutes to get the anti-dote and when you do it will cost $ 1500 for the first shot and $1200 for the second.
Even worse the idiot "heros" do it in short sleeves and no gloves.
All the snakes down here have short fangs so loose heavy clothing is the best defence .

Most snakes are territorial so it is just a matter of educating yourself about which are the "safe" snakes and which are the dangerous ones.
You then set your yard up to make it a prefferred habitat for the "safe" snakes and in most cases they will keep the dangerous ones at bay.

Down here I get black, brown , whip & green snakes plus diamond , carpet , and green tree pythons.
They pythons all get ignored, worst case is if you step or one or shove a naked hand into one the bite might get infected.
Pythons over 15' are a problem for babies under 1 but most wont bother you at all.
Right now there is 20' of carpet python in the roof cavity of the workshop so there are no pest birds nesting in there , well not for long anyway.
Every now & then I catch a glance of 10' hanging out of the eves in the morning sun.

The black snakes eat frogs, reptiles ( including baby snakes ) & eggs, they are shy so a 20' snake will slither away when they feel the vibrations of your footsteps or smell you coming.
So you put some frog ponds near the house with roof drains flowing through pipes into them and remember not to shove your hand up any pipe.
They will then inhabit the area around the house and keep the other ground snakes away.
The only real concession to them is always to stand to the side when you open a shed door so you are not blocking their escape.
A friend who is up country opens his garage door then walks around the back and strikes the wall a few times with a broom
Nothing odd to see 5 or more blacks scooting out the open door.

Brown snakes eat mammals so you put the chook shed on the other side of the frog ponds to the house.
Rats & mice come in over night to eat the seed that the chooks throw everywhere and the snakes come in to feed on the rats & mice.
It is all a matter of working with nature rather than against it.
We also provide nest boxes for Kookaburras & Magpies, both of which love baby snakes.

Trying to erradicate any species is a no win situation.
Firstly you will not do it and secondly you allow their natural prey numbers to build up to plague numbers.
A couple of snakes can eat a very large number of rats , mice, moles and other things that create havock around your property.

JEEZ!
I'll never again complain about the occasional (1-2 per year) Garter Snake or Bull Snake I encounter down by the garden.


#7

7394

7394

Haven't seen any snakes for a good while, but plenty of brown rabbits find our garden easily enough. So we plant extra. :laughing:


#8

reynoldston

reynoldston

Haven't seen any snakes for a good while, but plenty of brown rabbits find our garden easily enough. So we plant extra. :laughing:

Rabbits,raccoons, and deer I give up planting a garden years age and just buy local, just a lot easier and cheaper. I have a large cherry tree the when the cherry's get ripe the coons know when to harvest them in one night. I can't even feed the birds anymore because the wildlife just empty the feeds as fast as I can full them.


#9

7394

7394

Rabbits,raccoons, and deer I give up planting a garden years age and just buy local, just a lot easier and cheaper. I have a large cherry tree the when the cherry's get ripe the coons know when to harvest them in one night. I can't even feed the birds anymore because the wildlife just empty the feeds as fast as I can full them.

Our back is all fenced off so Deer are not an issue, just rabbits & raccoons. The lil woman loves planting in the garden, so I just go along with it.
That & feeding the birds, that live in our birdhouse.

But we have hawks around, & I hate seeing a hawk take out a small bird..


#10

Russ2251

Russ2251

Squirrels are my nemesis.
They completely decimate my flower gardens.
I've eliminated over 30 of them...and they just keep on coming.


#11

B

bertsmobile1

You need a hungry dog, or better still a pair of them.
And what eats baby racoons ?
Eagles, hawks, snakes & owls.
Four animals that we try to discourage from residential areas
Foxes, Cyotes, Mountain Lions and a few other big carnivours will also do the same job but you probably don't want any of the latter in your backyard .


#12

BWH

BWH

Ground Hornets are my troubles the last couple of years, although their not aggressive they do make you nervous. I guess they move in any out according to the Locust population or over population. They can mound up 3-4 cups of dirt quicker than you can imagine, making a big mess in the lawn especially if you don't clean them up before the sprinkler system makes mud of the mounds. I have to say it's incredible to watch them after thy kill the Locust they fly them back to their nest for their next meal.


#13

7394

7394

Wonder if those ground hornets would eat 'grits' ? That's what we use for red ants, they can't digest it so as the grit expands the lil devil red ants explode.. :thumbsup:


#14

J

Johnkim

Grass snakes, wolf snakes and others like them are deemed to be safe. Viper, rattlesnakes and cobras are dangerous. it would be helpful to see pictures of poisonous snakes from the internet.


#15

S

shadesofidaho

So far I have had to escort two small, I guess, garden snakes out of the house. The kitty drags them in from her out door kennel through the pet door. This year both have allowed me to quietly pick them up and carry them back out and I put them as far from the kennel as I can get them. Last year I had to remove many more and the last one was quite aggressive. I had to scoot him out the door using a stiff throw rug. No way to pick it up. I do not mind snakes as long as they are not of the poison variety.


#16

Boobala

Boobala

Yeah Summer is Hell here in tropical Florida, we have to put up with Grasodiles, and Mosgagators ..

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#17

S

steha1

Just dropped by to try to reach five posts. I'm not a big fan of snakes either


#18

mhavanti

mhavanti

steha1,

Patience Gwasshoppa. You'll get there soon enough. And to all of you that are happy you aren't in Australia with Bert, I'm with you as although in Arkansas we have those CopperHeadedRattleMoccasins, even those don't come close to the dangerful rascals that Bert has in his continent. Browns are no joke.

We're not even spose to kill these things up here. But then, something gotta help keep the eco even.

Welcome to the forum steha1.

Max


#19

B

bertsmobile1

Snakes are really not a big problem .
You get used to them.
Asian immigrants have been living with lots of aggressive dangerous vipers since times began and as we get more of them and fewer Europeans bad encounters with snakes are fairly rare.
Most of the fatal snake bites came from Queensland back in the days of hand cutting sugar cane.
After that the next major group to get bitten are German tourists followed by Japanese tourist followed by USA tourists.
There are more PEOPLE bitten by crockadiles than snakes but again mainly tourists but in this case it is Germans then Americans.

I like to think it is because we are more wildlife aware down here but in reality it is most likely nothing more than sparse populations limiting contact between a lot of people & the native snakes.
Right now snakes are a problem, expect to hear about them in your news reports, because the drought is forcing them to come in around houses looking for prey which itself has come in looking for food & water.
There was fresh wallaby poo in front of workshop door every day this week as the are forced to come in & eat the geraniums .
Pretty brave ( & desperate ) cause the dogs will go for them so I have been putting a water trough on the other side of the fence to encourage them to keep to that side.
The air stinks with the smell of rotting flesh from al of the road kill as desperate animals try to graze on the road side verge vegitation.


#20

mhavanti

mhavanti

bert,

Hate that y'all are having to go thru a drought. Our state (Arkansas) had about a 8 week drought and that was long enough. Most folks don't consider the wildlife during droughts and that is good of you to water the wildlife. Not to mention maybe help with having to dodge the wallaby crap. lol

I still want to know what a BillyBong is. Let alone, why would I want to tie one down?

Max


#21

B

bertsmobile1

You need to listen to the song a bit closer Max
A billy bong in an elbow bend in a river that gets divorced from the main river so remains a pool of still water
Fairly sure there is a geographical name for this
Also slang for a device for the smoking of things which may or may not be illegal.
Oft shortened to Billy
The joke of the song is you can not rope a kangaroo as the early stock hands found out.
In fact you can not fence a kangaroo in either which is one reason why they were never farmed other than by the black fellas who simply managed the grasslands
Really good eating if the bleeding heart animal lib vegeterians would allow butchers to sell roo meat.
It is easier to get a roo steak in China than it is in Sydney.


#22

mhavanti

mhavanti

By golly bert, maybe I should come down and lets start selling RooBurger at the Burger Barn.


#23

B

bertsmobile1

By golly bert, maybe I should come down and lets start selling RooBurger at the Burger Barn.

You would have the appartment living vegetarian "enviromentalist" who would starve to death if kidnapped and let lose 1 mile into the bush picketing the place before the first sod was turned onthe building.
And down here you can not pull out the firearm and remove the vermon.


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