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POS Tesla Semi-Trucks Breaking Down
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mechanizm
mechanizm
Like I said before... EV's and Electric trucks are a scam and so to are electric lawn tractors. If you buy one of these overpriced P'sos you will be ska-rooed. Scotty explains how the Tesla 18 Wheelers are breaking down before they reach 100 miles! Then they have to be towed with a reliable diesel truck back to Tesla to be "fixed". give me a break...
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The social infuliencers you watch on you tube say more about you than what they are talking about.
If your screaming luniac took a bit of time to research the topic properly rather than using ruhmours off face book for a start he would know the Tesla truck engine is in fact water cooled .
If he actually understood what he is blathering about then he would know that high output electric motors generate a large amount of heat, a lot more than the batteries.
But "common knowledge" is the batteries get hot & blow up so he deliberately played to this misconception.
I on the other hand have gone to the effort of watching all of the dissasemblies of Tesla engines done by one of the US university school of electrical engineering so I know something that mr Scott does not , Hoe the Various Tesla Motors work & I must say the technology is very good & I would expect the see it used in diesel electric or even strait electric locomotives .
And FWIW Mitsubishi use the same engine and gear box in vehicles from their 2 seater micro car to the 4 tone Dyna truck.
For 70 years most British trucks used a 4 or 6 cylinder car engine and a slightly modified gear box in their petrol powered semi trailers , in fact in all of their trucks.
Down here we got both British trucks , little engines big diffs and US trucks , massive engines with small boxes .
The difference being that fuel was expensive in the UK so their vehicles were very fuel economical to run while because there was virtually no tax on fuel in the USA , US trucks used almost as much fuel as their payload .
A friend's father ran a trucking business, 20 ton flat tops bedfords and he used to pay us for finding abandoned Vauxhaul Velox sedans on the side of the road because he used to strip the engines out of them for his truck fleet . HE was an old army mechanic and practiced engine & gearbox swapping in order to keep all of the fleet on the road all of the time so the yard workshop always had several engines , gearboxes & diffs being rebuilt . A fun place for teenage youth to hang around after hours .
Your Mr Scott is the perfect case for banning You Tube videos and closing down the WWW
And what was the point in showing a lawn mower in the bit about air-bags , a recall that the manufacturers have no control over , perhaps his anti foriegn car bias is showing , a Ford Mustang as a good buy , the car that sits 2 vehicles behind the Jeep as being the mot unreliable vehicles on the market.
Then there was the suggestion to put the glue in the transmission to fix a leak, really ?
OH and remember I like the idea of EV's my only objection to them is the Li batteries , not the technology.
Tesla is getting near 40 times the power per Kw out of their engines as a std electric motor and as some of that finds it's way into mains powered devices we will all be better off ( and I call Musk the greatest con artist since PC Barnum )
If your screaming luniac took a bit of time to research the topic properly rather than using ruhmours off face book for a start he would know the Tesla truck engine is in fact water cooled .
If he actually understood what he is blathering about then he would know that high output electric motors generate a large amount of heat, a lot more than the batteries.
But "common knowledge" is the batteries get hot & blow up so he deliberately played to this misconception.
I on the other hand have gone to the effort of watching all of the dissasemblies of Tesla engines done by one of the US university school of electrical engineering so I know something that mr Scott does not , Hoe the Various Tesla Motors work & I must say the technology is very good & I would expect the see it used in diesel electric or even strait electric locomotives .
And FWIW Mitsubishi use the same engine and gear box in vehicles from their 2 seater micro car to the 4 tone Dyna truck.
For 70 years most British trucks used a 4 or 6 cylinder car engine and a slightly modified gear box in their petrol powered semi trailers , in fact in all of their trucks.
Down here we got both British trucks , little engines big diffs and US trucks , massive engines with small boxes .
The difference being that fuel was expensive in the UK so their vehicles were very fuel economical to run while because there was virtually no tax on fuel in the USA , US trucks used almost as much fuel as their payload .
A friend's father ran a trucking business, 20 ton flat tops bedfords and he used to pay us for finding abandoned Vauxhaul Velox sedans on the side of the road because he used to strip the engines out of them for his truck fleet . HE was an old army mechanic and practiced engine & gearbox swapping in order to keep all of the fleet on the road all of the time so the yard workshop always had several engines , gearboxes & diffs being rebuilt . A fun place for teenage youth to hang around after hours .
Your Mr Scott is the perfect case for banning You Tube videos and closing down the WWW
And what was the point in showing a lawn mower in the bit about air-bags , a recall that the manufacturers have no control over , perhaps his anti foriegn car bias is showing , a Ford Mustang as a good buy , the car that sits 2 vehicles behind the Jeep as being the mot unreliable vehicles on the market.
Then there was the suggestion to put the glue in the transmission to fix a leak, really ?
OH and remember I like the idea of EV's my only objection to them is the Li batteries , not the technology.
Tesla is getting near 40 times the power per Kw out of their engines as a std electric motor and as some of that finds it's way into mains powered devices we will all be better off ( and I call Musk the greatest con artist since PC Barnum )
#3
Scrubcadet10
Scrubcadet10
i wonder if internal combustion engines were without fault when they were first invented and began being used.
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mechanizm
5.52M subscribers
mechanizm
Scotty KilmerThe social infuliencers you watch on you tube say more about you than what they are talking about.
5.52M subscribers
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Read some of those emails that turn up showing you how to get 1,000+ You Tube subscribers in a week
Then try to look at Scotts presentations with an objective perspective
Adulf Hitler was once one of the most popular polticans on the planet
Did not mean he was right, just means he said things to people that they wanted to hear.
President Trump did exactly the same thing and about 1/4 of the USA think he is God reincarnated
No one wants to admit that their own circumstances are no bodies fault but their own.
Ask a reformed alcoholic or drug addict or even a smoker what was the hardest bit to do.
They will all tell you the hardest bit was accepting it was no ones fault but their own and only they can fix their problems
So "our mate Scotty tells every one it is not our fault .
It is the mythical "THEY" ( government - oil barrons -greenies etc etc etc )
You always have to have the "other" to blame , for Hitler it was Jews , for Trump it as illegal imigrants from South America ( for our PM Howard it was refugees in boats )
By and large people doo not want to know the truth, they want to think that they are right because every one else believes the same thing.
And as for 5,200,000 subscribers for all we know 5,199,999 of them could be web bots , or fake followers that any of the SEO optimizing Indian computer geeks can add to your subscribers list for about 10¢ to 50¢ a follower .
You can follow any You Tube channel with a Face Book ID and if you remember the hassels about Musk buying Face Book, one of the problems was about how many face book accounts were fakes .
When I look at any You tube presentation ( or attend a public lecture ) I unfortunately look for the tricks of popular persuasion .
I also try to critically listen to what is being presented weighed against what I know to be fact .
The first lie or extrapolation to a lie that I come across hen determines how much creditability I will allow myself to apply to the presentation.
Scott failed in the first 3 seconds
1) screaming at you to create a sense of anxiety ( minds are most suseptable to influence in an anxious or depressed state )
2) extrapolating the cost of recharging your EV with no actual proof .
3) Playing to a conspiracey agains the viewer that is not real
4) evoking the anger response so the emotional side of the mind overrides the rational side of the mind .
The Truck video was just the same
Cheap tricks to impress the mentally deficient who are too lazy to listen with an objective mind .
Then try to look at Scotts presentations with an objective perspective
Adulf Hitler was once one of the most popular polticans on the planet
Did not mean he was right, just means he said things to people that they wanted to hear.
President Trump did exactly the same thing and about 1/4 of the USA think he is God reincarnated
No one wants to admit that their own circumstances are no bodies fault but their own.
Ask a reformed alcoholic or drug addict or even a smoker what was the hardest bit to do.
They will all tell you the hardest bit was accepting it was no ones fault but their own and only they can fix their problems
So "our mate Scotty tells every one it is not our fault .
It is the mythical "THEY" ( government - oil barrons -greenies etc etc etc )
You always have to have the "other" to blame , for Hitler it was Jews , for Trump it as illegal imigrants from South America ( for our PM Howard it was refugees in boats )
By and large people doo not want to know the truth, they want to think that they are right because every one else believes the same thing.
And as for 5,200,000 subscribers for all we know 5,199,999 of them could be web bots , or fake followers that any of the SEO optimizing Indian computer geeks can add to your subscribers list for about 10¢ to 50¢ a follower .
You can follow any You Tube channel with a Face Book ID and if you remember the hassels about Musk buying Face Book, one of the problems was about how many face book accounts were fakes .
When I look at any You tube presentation ( or attend a public lecture ) I unfortunately look for the tricks of popular persuasion .
I also try to critically listen to what is being presented weighed against what I know to be fact .
The first lie or extrapolation to a lie that I come across hen determines how much creditability I will allow myself to apply to the presentation.
Scott failed in the first 3 seconds
1) screaming at you to create a sense of anxiety ( minds are most suseptable to influence in an anxious or depressed state )
2) extrapolating the cost of recharging your EV with no actual proof .
3) Playing to a conspiracey agains the viewer that is not real
4) evoking the anger response so the emotional side of the mind overrides the rational side of the mind .
The Truck video was just the same
Cheap tricks to impress the mentally deficient who are too lazy to listen with an objective mind .
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
You mean all the ones that blew up killing the drivers or even before they got put into a vehiclei wonder if internal combustion engines were without fault when they were first invented and began being used.
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Hammermechanicman
Hammermechanicman
Got no dog in this fight but just an observation. When i got out of the service i got a job for a year driving a truck for a lumber yard. Ford F800 from the 60's with a small straight 6. Probably half the HP of the yard's newer V8 trucks but my old truck had a split axle. Empty the other trucks ran circles around mine but fully loaded they were equal and my truck used about half the gas the V8's did. I regularly hauled drywall loads that were double the weight capacity of the truck. You learn real quick how to double clutch and down shift going down a hill to a stop light.
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
No no you are not supposed to do that.
I have seen all of he Hollywood movies
You are supposed to ride the brake till it fails then swerve all over the road looking hopeless then crash
No one is allowed to go back through the gears to slow down.
Back in the college days I rode an old A10 BSA
With no brakes full stop
No problems to down change all the way back to 1st then shut down the throttle and if I needed to stop faster hold down the magneto kill button, provided you remembered to let it off before the engine stalled .
What I find unbelievable is the fact that social influencers actually exist to start with
Then on a daily basis , one or another is found to be defrauding their followers and quite a few are now getting gaol time yet the idiot public are queing up to follow them and in most cases they have zero qualifications in the topic they are posting on.
There was a tart down here who claimed that meditation & her high suplement diet cured her cancer thus she was responsible for hundreds of sick people abandoning their medications and following her enlightened path ( buy her books & buy her organic suplements ) .
They of course all died and she ended up only getting 5 years ( should have been life ) and she is back now on the web with millions of followers despite it being proven she never had cancer in the first place in fact she admitted "I never had any cancer as defined by current medical practice" , obviously it was a mystical cancer of her aura .
She by the way managed to amass over $ 20,000,000 from the followers to further her research into her revolutionary cure .
I have seen all of he Hollywood movies
You are supposed to ride the brake till it fails then swerve all over the road looking hopeless then crash
No one is allowed to go back through the gears to slow down.
Back in the college days I rode an old A10 BSA
With no brakes full stop
No problems to down change all the way back to 1st then shut down the throttle and if I needed to stop faster hold down the magneto kill button, provided you remembered to let it off before the engine stalled .
What I find unbelievable is the fact that social influencers actually exist to start with
Then on a daily basis , one or another is found to be defrauding their followers and quite a few are now getting gaol time yet the idiot public are queing up to follow them and in most cases they have zero qualifications in the topic they are posting on.
There was a tart down here who claimed that meditation & her high suplement diet cured her cancer thus she was responsible for hundreds of sick people abandoning their medications and following her enlightened path ( buy her books & buy her organic suplements ) .
They of course all died and she ended up only getting 5 years ( should have been life ) and she is back now on the web with millions of followers despite it being proven she never had cancer in the first place in fact she admitted "I never had any cancer as defined by current medical practice" , obviously it was a mystical cancer of her aura .
She by the way managed to amass over $ 20,000,000 from the followers to further her research into her revolutionary cure .
#9
StarTech
StarTech
That about like the guy who told me how the fire damage was to a house that I brought and had torn down. When he was a kid they had a mange cover feral dog that would not leave. He had tried two blooming flower fireworks to it tail and set them off. Well it did get rid of the dog but one came off set their dog's bed on fire and nearly burnt the house down.
Yes anything will have problems that must worked out just when they started with fuel injection for vehicles. Boy it was a huge learning on both the manufacture and the tech having to repair them. And OEMs are now trying to use FI on smaller engines that many here work on. Driving us all nuts for awhile until we the in and out of the systems.
And have heard about how low the compression was some the old Model T that they used corncobs for spark plug insulators and now the compression is so high that a poorly together plug can come out and go through the thin sheet metal hoods. BTW I had last a chainsaw that came with ceramic part of the spark plug loose it metal holder and it was nearly coming out itself. No wonder the customer was complaining about the unusual noise coming from his saw.
Yes anything will have problems that must worked out just when they started with fuel injection for vehicles. Boy it was a huge learning on both the manufacture and the tech having to repair them. And OEMs are now trying to use FI on smaller engines that many here work on. Driving us all nuts for awhile until we the in and out of the systems.
And have heard about how low the compression was some the old Model T that they used corncobs for spark plug insulators and now the compression is so high that a poorly together plug can come out and go through the thin sheet metal hoods. BTW I had last a chainsaw that came with ceramic part of the spark plug loose it metal holder and it was nearly coming out itself. No wonder the customer was complaining about the unusual noise coming from his saw.
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
So lets go back to basics
If everyone has not read Dale Carnegie's book "how to win friends & influence People" do it NOW
Now days you can get it as an audio book so you don't even have to read it .
However once you have read it a few times, it will become apparent when some one is trying to decieve you.
Here is a few more for those with research skills limited to You Tube videos
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Once you become aware of the cheap tricks then you have a better chance of sorting out the facts from the manipulative fiction.
And remember all of the people with a you tube channel are there either for power or profit and most times both .
If everyone has not read Dale Carnegie's book "how to win friends & influence People" do it NOW
Now days you can get it as an audio book so you don't even have to read it .
However once you have read it a few times, it will become apparent when some one is trying to decieve you.
Here is a few more for those with research skills limited to You Tube videos
1)
Once you become aware of the cheap tricks then you have a better chance of sorting out the facts from the manipulative fiction.
And remember all of the people with a you tube channel are there either for power or profit and most times both .
#11
Hammermechanicman
Hammermechanicman
Famous quote from Abraham Lincoln. "Not everything on the internet is true."
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
What I find dissapointing is these tricks of the trade are very well know
They basically have not changed since I was forced to do Pyhc in my 2nd & 3rd year at uni and that was in the 60's .
From what Mechanism has posted, he is obviously not a dullard yet he allows himself to be manipilated so easily and completely by a pile of cheap tricks .
Those You tubes I posted took about 15 seconds of research to find and there were thousands of them to alert us to people who are trying to manipulate our minds yet so few bother to watch them and thus get sucked in all the time by any spiv who pretends they are on your side against them.
They basically have not changed since I was forced to do Pyhc in my 2nd & 3rd year at uni and that was in the 60's .
From what Mechanism has posted, he is obviously not a dullard yet he allows himself to be manipilated so easily and completely by a pile of cheap tricks .
Those You tubes I posted took about 15 seconds of research to find and there were thousands of them to alert us to people who are trying to manipulate our minds yet so few bother to watch them and thus get sucked in all the time by any spiv who pretends they are on your side against them.
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mitchstein443
In the 1800's the man said, combustion engines will never replace the horse, they do not have the durbility and con not go very far from home do to needing refueling.. I refuel my horse by letting it eat grass, my horse crosses fields of it, try that in a car!!
And they were sorta right, but gas stations popped up everywhere and roads were built and the horse disapeared from everyday life and became a luxury, as will combustion engines...
My ryobi 300e is used to mow a 5 acre graveyard, because of it's size it fits between the grave stones well, it does it on a single charge, it has done it now for 4 years and has had only one maintainance done to it. SOrry two.. Last week I had to replace a 2amp fuse that blew and would not let me use my headlights. it apparently was a improper use of a fuse as th circuit it was protecting uses two amps, replaced with a 10 (the buck supplies up to 15 amps and all of it passed through a 2am fuse for 3 years).. And away I went..
The maintanance was last year, I sharpened the blades..
Now we use a craftsman dyt4000 to maintain a 3 acre field have for about 7 years now.. Every year we have to cleanout the carb or remember to winterize it, remove the battery, change the oil every two months, clean and possibly replace the air cleaner, the plug, 2 stators, 4 or 5 starters, 3-4 sets of belts..
Nah, I'll take the ryobi, we bought a 42" one to replace the old fashioned, maintanance hogging expernsive unreliable dyt4000... And we are replacing all our gas powered tools with EV.. But do not worry, the old gas engines will be used by our local framer to run some generators for his severl well pumps, you know when the sun doen't shie enough to charge the sump pump batteries from his solar cells..
There is place for everything, there is a time for everything, combustion engines have run thier time, had thier place, now it's time to modernize and move forward. As a mechanic, you can either adapt and join those of us who will modify and high po EVs or join the ranks of those still using horses and buggies, they have a bunch of them here in PA, they got neat black uniforms too..
mitchstein443
While I see you have much good information on cars and other gas powered euiptment as wel as a very strong oinion on what is good and not which usually I agree with. you are completly misinformed on EV's and you are using your reputation in mechincs world to spread a lot of flse information..Like I said before... EV's and Electric trucks are a scam and so to are electric lawn tractors. If you buy one of these overpriced P'sos you will be ska-rooed. Scotty explains how the Tesla 18 Wheelers are breaking down before they reach 100 miles! Then they have to be towed with a reliable diesel truck back to Tesla to be "fixed". give me a break...
In the 1800's the man said, combustion engines will never replace the horse, they do not have the durbility and con not go very far from home do to needing refueling.. I refuel my horse by letting it eat grass, my horse crosses fields of it, try that in a car!!
And they were sorta right, but gas stations popped up everywhere and roads were built and the horse disapeared from everyday life and became a luxury, as will combustion engines...
My ryobi 300e is used to mow a 5 acre graveyard, because of it's size it fits between the grave stones well, it does it on a single charge, it has done it now for 4 years and has had only one maintainance done to it. SOrry two.. Last week I had to replace a 2amp fuse that blew and would not let me use my headlights. it apparently was a improper use of a fuse as th circuit it was protecting uses two amps, replaced with a 10 (the buck supplies up to 15 amps and all of it passed through a 2am fuse for 3 years).. And away I went..
The maintanance was last year, I sharpened the blades..
Now we use a craftsman dyt4000 to maintain a 3 acre field have for about 7 years now.. Every year we have to cleanout the carb or remember to winterize it, remove the battery, change the oil every two months, clean and possibly replace the air cleaner, the plug, 2 stators, 4 or 5 starters, 3-4 sets of belts..
Nah, I'll take the ryobi, we bought a 42" one to replace the old fashioned, maintanance hogging expernsive unreliable dyt4000... And we are replacing all our gas powered tools with EV.. But do not worry, the old gas engines will be used by our local framer to run some generators for his severl well pumps, you know when the sun doen't shie enough to charge the sump pump batteries from his solar cells..
There is place for everything, there is a time for everything, combustion engines have run thier time, had thier place, now it's time to modernize and move forward. As a mechanic, you can either adapt and join those of us who will modify and high po EVs or join the ranks of those still using horses and buggies, they have a bunch of them here in PA, they got neat black uniforms too..
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mitchstein443
mitchstein443
While I see you have much good information on cars and other gas powered euiptment as wel as a very strong oinion on what is good and not which usually I agree with. you are completly misinformed on EV's and you are using your reputation in mechincs world to spread a lot of flse information..
In the 1800's the man said, combustion engines will never replace the horse, they do not have the durbility and con not go very far from home do to needing refueling.. I refuel my horse by letting it eat grass, my horse crosses fields of it, try that in a car!!
And they were sorta right, but gas stations popped up everywhere and roads were built and the horse disapeared from everyday life and became a luxury, as will combustion engines...
My ryobi 300e is used to mow a 5 acre graveyard, because of it's size it fits between the grave stones well, it does it on a single charge, it has done it now for 4 years and has had only one maintainance done to it. SOrry two.. Last week I had to replace a 2amp fuse that blew and would not let me use my headlights. it apparently was a improper use of a fuse as th circuit it was protecting uses two amps, replaced with a 10 (the buck supplies up to 15 amps and all of it passed through a 2am fuse for 3 years).. And away I went..
The maintanance was last year, I sharpened the blades..
Now we use a craftsman dyt4000 to maintain a 3 acre field have for about 7 years now.. Every year we have to cleanout the carb or remember to winterize it, remove the battery, change the oil every two months, clean and possibly replace the air cleaner, the plug, 2 stators, 4 or 5 starters, 3-4 sets of belts..
Nah, I'll take the ryobi, we bought a 42" one to replace the old fashioned, maintanance hogging expernsive unreliable dyt4000... And we are replacing all our gas powered tools with EV.. But do not worry, the old gas engines will be used by our local framer to run some generators for his severl well pumps, you know when the sun doen't shie enough to charge the sump pump batteries from his solar cells..
There is place for everything, there is a time for everything, combustion engines have run thier time, had thier place, now it's time to modernize and move forward. As a mechanic, you can either adapt and join those of us who will modify and high po EVs or join the ranks of those still using horses and buggies, they have a bunch of them here in PA, they got neat black uniforms too..
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bertsmobile1
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bertsmobile1
Nothing new in the video but nice to hear a tuber admit they do not know anything about some thing that they are a passionate supporter of .
The E-Truck would be good for stock deliveries from a BDC to supermarkets .
While loading at the BDC there is anything from 15 minutes to 1/2 hour if every dock position has a charger .
Because city driving is all stop go a diesel engine engine will be in it's dirtiest emission mode so it would go a long way to cleaning up city air.
Way way back I commented that if Musk really wanted to save the planet then what he really needed to market was a 2 to 4 ton pan which form the back bone of inner city delivery fleets and in the USA there would be hundreds of thousands of them .
Most of them go through a tank of fuel a shift so that is a lot more pollution not made and any fancy 200 mph sports car .
Taxis would be the next step .
However none of this takes away from the fact that the Li battery is the most polluting energy storage device ever made
The E-Truck would be good for stock deliveries from a BDC to supermarkets .
While loading at the BDC there is anything from 15 minutes to 1/2 hour if every dock position has a charger .
Because city driving is all stop go a diesel engine engine will be in it's dirtiest emission mode so it would go a long way to cleaning up city air.
Way way back I commented that if Musk really wanted to save the planet then what he really needed to market was a 2 to 4 ton pan which form the back bone of inner city delivery fleets and in the USA there would be hundreds of thousands of them .
Most of them go through a tank of fuel a shift so that is a lot more pollution not made and any fancy 200 mph sports car .
Taxis would be the next step .
However none of this takes away from the fact that the Li battery is the most polluting energy storage device ever made
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adam1991
That you're happy being in a crowd that follows Kilmer, and in fact defend that by saying "but I'm in a crowd!", says WAY more about you than you realize.
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adam1991
Quantity does not equal quality.Scotty Kilmer
5.52M subscribers
That you're happy being in a crowd that follows Kilmer, and in fact defend that by saying "but I'm in a crowd!", says WAY more about you than you realize.
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mechanizm
mechanizm
i responded to the above claiming that i'm one of the sheeple. It was HE who didn't stay on-topic.Please keep the thread on topic please!
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mechanizm
mechanizm
yes, let's stay on-topic.... WHAT DID KILMER SAY THAT ISN'T TRUE?
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upupandaway
upupandaway
What I don't get is that if this truck costs as much as a Diesel truck, how is it financially feasible? I mean, like a plane, you use the crap out of it to pay for itself. A battery truck will be down for hours a day just to charge. The GM Hummer took almost 24 hrs to charge. This will have a much bigger battery. How long will this take to charge?The E-Truck would be good for stock deliveries from a BDC to supermarkets .
When Toyota first sold the Prius, they asked buyers why they bought it. Environment was at the bottom of the list. Do you think tesla Plaid buyers are buying it to "save the world"? Obviously not. For those who say it will save the environment, I think the reason these people say it is good for the environment is because of the "no tailpipe, no pollution", the chemical dump that made it is now 1/2 around the World and the coal\natgas power plant is 40 miles away instead. I laughed when I saw the lic plate "No oil" on a Tesla.However none of this takes away from the fact that the Li battery is the most polluting energy storage device ever made
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mechanizm
mechanizm
our lovely gov is using YOUR tax dollars to bribe corporations to buy these crappy EV trucks.What I don't get is that if this truck costs as much as a Diesel truck, how is it financially feasible?
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bertsmobile1
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It is different in different countries
We ran a 100% LPG fleet and where possible popped LPG for lift engines in the vans
They actually got better MPG on LPG than the petrol engines did at speeds under 80 kph.
And we are talking around 1/4 the fuel cost.
There was a battery conversion available that used spiral cell Pb batteries and gave a range of around 150 km we looked at doing this and it was a close call as the payback was around 3 years.
We did try air start using a brake operated air compressor
That dropped the fuel consumption by around 15% because the electricity used to start 60 times a day has to come from the engine.
They worked well but took way too much maintenance so we only ever fitted two of them and were glad to pension those vans off.
What saved a lot of money was to change the door locks so the loading section was on a different key then installing a burgular alarm that cut off the engine if the door was opened other than by the alarm deactivating.
As they were all LPG they could sit in docks for extended periods with the engine running and as most of our work was street parking they could sit all day without turning the engine off.
Drivers liked this because they could leave the air con / heater on all day.
The people who will convert to EV's in a flash are the large delivery fleet owners
One to 2 tanks of fuel a day, oil changes every month, full services every 2 to 3 months the costs become astronomical in a very short time
Our biggest variable cost was wages .
Fuel was a close second and full vehicle running costs were about 70% of the labour costs .
Ask a taxi cab owner about their running costs
IN Sydney the average private owner does 15,000 km a year
The average delivery vehicle does that 15,000 km in 1 to 2 months
I would hate to think what a mail collection / delivery van does in a year
Aust Post is switching to E-bikes & E-Quads for outer urban mail deliveries and that is expected to save around $ 1,500,000 / year in operating costs and have a break even in 9 months.
We ran a 100% LPG fleet and where possible popped LPG for lift engines in the vans
They actually got better MPG on LPG than the petrol engines did at speeds under 80 kph.
And we are talking around 1/4 the fuel cost.
There was a battery conversion available that used spiral cell Pb batteries and gave a range of around 150 km we looked at doing this and it was a close call as the payback was around 3 years.
We did try air start using a brake operated air compressor
That dropped the fuel consumption by around 15% because the electricity used to start 60 times a day has to come from the engine.
They worked well but took way too much maintenance so we only ever fitted two of them and were glad to pension those vans off.
What saved a lot of money was to change the door locks so the loading section was on a different key then installing a burgular alarm that cut off the engine if the door was opened other than by the alarm deactivating.
As they were all LPG they could sit in docks for extended periods with the engine running and as most of our work was street parking they could sit all day without turning the engine off.
Drivers liked this because they could leave the air con / heater on all day.
The people who will convert to EV's in a flash are the large delivery fleet owners
One to 2 tanks of fuel a day, oil changes every month, full services every 2 to 3 months the costs become astronomical in a very short time
Our biggest variable cost was wages .
Fuel was a close second and full vehicle running costs were about 70% of the labour costs .
Ask a taxi cab owner about their running costs
IN Sydney the average private owner does 15,000 km a year
The average delivery vehicle does that 15,000 km in 1 to 2 months
I would hate to think what a mail collection / delivery van does in a year
Aust Post is switching to E-bikes & E-Quads for outer urban mail deliveries and that is expected to save around $ 1,500,000 / year in operating costs and have a break even in 9 months.
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No, they were perfect.............i wonder if internal combustion engines were without fault when they were first invented and began being used.