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#1

Mow'N Weeds

Mow'N Weeds

Here-n-there LMF reader, finally decided to jump in.
I don't currently have anything cool like a rider, just a rotating list of walk-behind mowers while I obtain/fix/clean/sell as some weird 'hobby'.
A couple/few are permanent residents though.. A pair of 90's 2-cycle Lawn-Boys: A little '96 F-series push and a '98 Duraforce RWD which I refer to as my "D-monster",
and also a couple Craftsmans: A '15 Platinum B&S OHV tall-wheel push, and a '10 Gold B&S tall-wheel push - a new addition this year. Might stay, might not?
Hoping to gather some knowledge as needed, and enjoy pictures... of mowers. What's wrong with me? :laughing:


#2

cpurvis

cpurvis

Nothing.

There isn't anything wrong with enjoying the workmanship and quality design work that went into good mowers.


#3

Mow'N Weeds

Mow'N Weeds

*Whew* Good. Than I'm correct on thinking this forum was possibly created for and fueled by similar people/interests :smile:
Anytime I talk to anyone else about mower stuff and/or show pictures (including a screensaver on my phone) I get the weirdest looks :laughing:


#4

primerbulb120

primerbulb120

You should make a thread like this to document your repairs. https://lawnmowerforum.com/showthread.php/5601


#5

Catherine

Catherine

:welcome:

Welcome to the forum!


#6

7394

7394

Welcome- & you are not alone, you're in the right place !!!


#7

Mow'N Weeds

Mow'N Weeds

You should make a thread like this (link removed from quote because I'm not allowed to post links yet evidently) to document your repairs.
I've visited that thread various times previously :cool:.. though I don't think I've ever had a chance to go all the way thru it from pg.1 to currently pg. 49!
I'm not quite at that level (the stripped and re-painted decks look pretty good) however.. I should have taken some before and after pics of a few of these I've cleaned because it's just about along those lines! Currently my strong point is more cleaning vs fixing, and a lot of times I have a buddy help get me on track with fixes while putting some beer in his fridge.. or honestly they seem to wind up in our bellies before they even get to the fridge :laughing:, and then I'll finish them off with some OCD cleaning when I get time before putting them back out there as fixed/cleaned/ready to mow units.

I don't know how long I'll do this TBH because sometimes it's spending time I don't really have on mowers I don't have room for! But I do get some satisfaction when they're all done and clean and on to a new owner, as well as some room back (which winds up getting filled with another mower it seems). I've only just recently got my feet wet with this, selling 4 mowers last year, then a few this year so far. My Honda was to be sold today actually to make it 4, but while the guy was on the way over the rear wheels decided not to freewheel back for me - frustrating! So when he got here I told 'em I couldn't sell it in good faith at my listed price with an issue, so I said I'd have to look into this before I'd let 'em buy it. He still wanted to buy it once fixed and offered to give me $100 to hold it until I get it sorted out but I told 'em to keep the money and I'd pull the ad down and figure it out and get back to 'em. In research today it turns out this seems to be a very common issue with certain Hondas for quite some time now (I'm new to Hondas), and finally last year they listed a service bulletin on the issue with a serial # range and some of them (I guess?) will be a warranty fix with new/upgraded/correctly sized bushings. I plan on swinging into the dealer tomorrow with my numbers to see where I land in this deal. Hopefully on the good side. But currently these Hondas are leaving a very bad taste in my mouth and after this I plan to steer clear of them unless they're free or a steal!


#8

Mow'N Weeds

Mow'N Weeds

:welcome:
Welcome to the forum!
Thanks!
Welcome- & you are not alone, you're in the right place !!!
Good deal! I was starting to worry about myself a little :tongue:


#9

primerbulb120

primerbulb120

You should read all of it. It makes for great reading!

Both of my HRR2169VKAs had the locking rear wheel issue. Good luck fixing it, I never tried the new parts on mine..


#10

Mow'N Weeds

Mow'N Weeds

I definitely wanna go all the way through that thread. It's more of having the time to do so. I'll have to section it if anything.
I could create my own, but it would be nowhere as content filled as that one, since I just started last year basically. Though I guess it's a starting point?

Both yours, both mine, a plethora of others out there from what I've read, yikes :confused2:. Did you just keep taking yours apart and sanding the shafts/lubing everything associated?


#11

primerbulb120

primerbulb120

I just got used to dragging it backwards.


#12

Mow'N Weeds

Mow'N Weeds

That's craziness, lol. Unacceptable situation in my book. I would have either fixed, tried to fix, or taken motor off frame and sent that deck down a cliff or into orbit.
I dug into mine last night with the help of a buddy. I don't think either of us would make it a day as a Honda factory worker assembling mowers :laughing:
But we seemed to have fixed the issue at least. The wheels move nicely now, with slight resistance on the pull back per design I'd imagine. I still gotta put the rest of it back together yet later today, it's a whole process. One which is new to me, but experience and knowledge gained.


#13

primerbulb120

primerbulb120

That's craziness, lol. Unacceptable situation in my book. I would have either fixed, tried to fix, or taken motor off frame and sent that deck down a cliff or into orbit.
I dug into mine last night with the help of a buddy. I don't think either of us would make it a day as a Honda factory worker assembling mowers :laughing:
But we seemed to have fixed the issue at least. The wheels move nicely now, with slight resistance on the pull back per design I'd imagine. I still gotta put the rest of it back together yet later today, it's a whole process. One which is new to me, but experience and knowledge gained.

I think up to 13 lbs of required pull back force is normal to make the mower roll.


#14

Band-aid Kid

Band-aid Kid

Well, I'm a little bit late, but not so much to say...

:welcome:

Hope you find this place as a ready source of knowledge and friendship.
Plus it can be quit entertaining.


#15

Mow'N Weeds

Mow'N Weeds

I think up to 13 lbs of required pull back force is normal to make the mower roll.
Oh yeah.. the spring gauge deal. Well I don't have one of those, but I'll assume that's about where it was at :wink:
Still don't like that setup though for my mowing needs. Dislike it a fair bit actually. That one moved out today to it's new owner. Then I got burned on an AWD Crapsman purchase this weekend, ugh. Thought it may just be old gas and a carb clean, not the case. Motor is junk. It had spark but I failed to check a couple other red flags on it. It's totally tore down now. Plastic cam in that one with some odd damage to it. Replacement cam prices make it an instant parts mower due to what I paid for it, sweet. That one may just wind up a Frankenmower, as now the work shifted to an old junker Honda Craftsman I had laying in the garage that I wasn't even sure was able to be a rescue. Took a closer look at it and got it to spin though, seems to have good compression. From what I can tell from a little research, it appears to be the same shaft diam and length as the B&S that came with the AWD Crapsman. If the engine still has life in it, this may be a pretty cool upgrade. I won't hold my breath, but that's where I'm at currently for messin' with mowers.


#16

Mow'N Weeds

Mow'N Weeds

Well, I'm a little bit late, but not so much to say...

:welcome:

Hope you find this place as a ready source of knowledge and friendship.
Plus it can be quit entertaining.
Thanks! Well, I need a good combo of added knowledge (that I don't have to learn the hard way via losing some of my money), and relaxation with a side of entertainment. And if I make a friend or two along the way, then that's a plus too :cool:


#17

primerbulb120

primerbulb120

What's the part number on that cam?


#18

Mow'N Weeds

Mow'N Weeds

What's the part number on that cam?
Couldn't tell ya! For some reason I'm not able to find any info specifically on the motor. The complete model # is 917.370890 per tag 2013 7.25 B&S non-OHV
Cam is this one -

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#19

primerbulb120

primerbulb120

Engine model number is on the metal engine cover, either above the muffler or above the cylinder head.


#20

Mow'N Weeds

Mow'N Weeds

I knew that! :laughing: True story. I just had a brain fart :confused2:
Anyway, PN 590463


#21

primerbulb120

primerbulb120

I knew that! :laughing: True story. I just had a brain fart :confused2:
Anyway, PN 590463

It's a standard Briggs Quantum camshaft. I'll save one for you off the next scrap engine I come across.


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