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New member - difference between 2 stroke and 4 stroke lawn mowers

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2strokevs4stroke

Hello everyone,
I was wondering if someone could please explain the differences between the 2 stroke and 4 stroke mowers?
Also, is there any chance someone might have or can reccommend where I can find images/pictures/animations showing the difference?
I thank you all in advance.

Cheers!


#2

Two-Stroke

Two-Stroke

The basic difference is that a two-stroke engine fires every time the piston reaches the top of the cylinder while a four-stroke fires every other time.

Two-Stroke: (1) Compression and Exhaust; (2) Power and Intake.

Four-Stroke: (1) Intake; (2) Compression; (3) Power; (4) Exhaust.

That's it in nutshell. But why did you choose this question as your username?


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KennyV

why did you choose this question as your username?

I'm also wondering that same thing... Why a ? type for your username... Hope to see you a lot in the future... WELCOME to LMF...

For an illustrated view...
Here is a 4 cycle.. Four Stroke Engine Animation - YouTube

Here is a 2 cycle... Two Stroke Engine Animation - YouTube

Both very short but very easy to follow. you can pause the sequence if you like. :smile:KennyV


#4

reynoldston

reynoldston

I see you have a lot of information how they run and operate. I see a lot of people say 2 or 4 stroke and I have been brought up with the term 2 or 4 cycle I guess just the neighbor hood we were brought up in?

A 2 stroke engine runs at higher RPM to get its power and has fewer parts making the engine lighter. It is used on hand held equipment like chain saws and trimmers. It doesn't run as efficient and pollutes the air and larger equipment like lawnmowers they are doing away with them.

A 4 stroke engine gets it power from lower RPM with a lot more parts making it heaver. Runs a lot more efficient, quieter and less pollution. This is the reason that a lot more manufactures are going to the 4 stroke engines like outboard boat motors, motorcycles, push lawn mowers etc.


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Grass ala Mowed

Grass ala Mowed

Technically, it is 2 stroke cycle and 4 stroke cycle. A stroke is the movement of the piston from bottom dead center to top dead center or visa versa and a cycle is a complete evolution of exhausting, getting a fresh intake charge, compressing the mixture and extracting power from the combustion. A 2 stroke engine does this in one crankshaft revolution, the 4 stroke takes 2 crankshaft revolutions. A 2 stroke also has lubricating oil mxed into the gas and the 4 stroke has the oil retained in the crankcase, necessitating periodic oil changes. Not having the oil in the crankcase also helps the 2 stroke run at any angle, even upside down, a nice feature in a chainsaw or trimmer.


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2strokevs4stroke

Thanks so much everyone! This is def helpful information and it's much appreciated.:smile:
Since you're being this helpful, I have one more quick question for you all:
what would you say is the easiest way to differentiate the two mowers just by looking at them. For instance, I go to a Home Depot store and see 10 mowers displayed. Without looking at the product description, how would you know which ones are 2 stroke and which ones are 4 stroke?:rolleyes:


#7

BKBrown

BKBrown

Nearly all will be 4 stroke (4 cycle) now -EPA does not like 2 stroke.

I don't know of any NEW 2 stroke mowers - someone else might know.


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Grass ala Mowed

Grass ala Mowed

Exactly, due to emissions requirement, very few if any new mowers are 2 stokes. One of the problems is that the pre-mixed oil must be enough for worst case engine loading, which results in too much oil 90% of the time. Two-stroke outboard motors and snowmobiles have gone to variable ratio oiling, where the oil is carried in a separate tank and metered into the engine based on rpm and throttle position. This is too expensive for a lawnmower. If there is a 2 stroke mower on the shelf, it should say something on one of the warning labels (if they're not mssing) about needing oil mixed into the gas. A 4-stroke will usually have a prominent place to add oil to the crankcase with a warning label to add oil before starting the engine.


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jerye

A good read over here:

2 stroke and 4 stroke engines


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oldyellr

Grass ala Mowed said:
Exactly, due to emissions requirement, very few if any new mowers are 2 stokes. One of the problems is that the pre-mixed oil must be enough for worst case engine loading, which results in too much oil 90% of the time. Two-stroke outboard motors and snowmobiles have gone to variable ratio oiling, where the oil is carried in a separate tank and metered into the engine based on rpm and throttle position. This is too expensive for a lawnmower. If there is a 2 stroke mower on the shelf, it should say something on one of the warning labels (if they're not mssing) about needing oil mixed into the gas. A 4-stroke will usually have a prominent place to add oil to the crankcase with a warning label to add oil before starting the engine.

Unfortunately, with the ever increasing amount of information and skills people have to learn each day, everything gets dumbed down so make it idiotproof. E.g., automatic transmissions, ABS brakes, traction control, electrinic stability control, you name it. I predict, in a couple of generations, the word "skill" will be irrelevant. So much for Darwin! As far as 2-stroke vs. 4-stroke for lawnmowers, any additional lubrication technology for a 2-stroke is far less complicated, expensive or heavy, than a 4-stroke valve train. I bet most old 4-stroke mowers running today generate more pollution than a modern 2-stroke would.


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Grass ala Mowed

Grass ala Mowed

One of the first oil injected snowmobiles was a Yamaha. They used a small belt to drive the oil pump, which worked very well on road motorcycles. However, snowmibiles bump and bang along and they had belt failures - not pretty. One of my friends had one, going wide open across a field he saw something fly over his head (the belt); most of the engine went over his head a few seconds later. Apparently the engine didn't like having no lubrication at 7,000 rpm. They quickly went to mechanical drive, pretty much the industry standard now.


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oldyellr

One of the first oil injected snowmobiles was a Yamaha. They used a small belt to drive the oil pump
I had one! A 1971 292. It was cool stopping at a gas station and filling up from the pump while my buddies with Skidoos, etc, had to mix their gas. The Yamaha was very advanced for a snowmobile at the time and the rest were crude and agricultural in comparison. One morning after I'd left it out uncovered the linkage from the carb to the oil pump was frozen, so I took a propane torch to it and melted the plastic bits in the pump, so had to go to mixing. I eventually bored out the intake port and went to a bigger carb, but that little spring belt was there forever.


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Grass ala Mowed

Grass ala Mowed

I resemble that! I had a 1971 SkiDoo TNT 340. With a little port and polish and clutch tuning my agricultural grade machine could run with most 440s.


#14

jmurray01

jmurray01

:welcome:

The difference it pretty simple really.

2 Stroke has two cycles, or strokes, and a 4 Stroke has four cycles/strokes.

The 2 Stroke manages to do two things at once, whereas the 4 Stroke does each of the four steps (Intake, Compression, Fire, Exhaust) separately.

Which one is better has been debated many times, with no real answer, as they are both good at certain tasks and there will always be a fan of either who will perpetually defend the one they prefer, but it can all get confusing.

The simple fact is that 2 Stroke is better for being lighter and producing power quickly, and 4 Stroke is better for being more durable and producing more torque.

I'm sure some will disagree with the above statement, but that is what I believe.


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LazerZLandscaping

LazerZLandscaping

And you have an oil/gas mix. The reason you have oil in your gas is because the oil lubricates the piston.


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exotion

exotion

And you have an oil/gas mix. The reason you have oil in your gas is because the oil lubricates the piston.

Way to revive a thread that was last posted 2012


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LazerZLandscaping

LazerZLandscaping

Way to revive a thread that was last posted 2012

And that's good or bad


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KennyV

And that's good or bad

Yes... :smile:KennyV


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