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Mower runs fine, dies or bogs down when PTO is engaged

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yetifed

This is my first Lazer, it has been running fine lately then all of the sudden when the PTO is engaged the motor bogs down and dies. I have tried cleaning the carb and several other things. Anyone have a suggestion where to go from here?

sidenote, i bought this mower from a friend who sold it for this reason because he had 2.


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BobbyR

Check to see that the deck belt is not binding somewhere. Also one of the spindle bearings could be freezing up causing the blades to be difficult for the engine to turn. To check, be sure you've got enough slack in the deck belt, then try to turn the spindle pulleys and see if they all turn freely. Check the belt tracking to see that it's not in a bind somewhere.


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ErnieD

Check the fuel shut off solenoid in the carb fuel bowl.

Ernie


#4

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yetifed

all pulleys rotate fine with no binding issues, also belt tracks correctly.blades seem to turn freely.


#5

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yetifed

i will try and test that solenoid tomorrow, thx


#6

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yetifed

BTW, thanks guys for the input.....Curious. Can i test the electric pto clutch and see if that is the issue. Just curious on a way to the test it.


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kev290

check your blade spindles see if you can move them by hand to see if they move easy if not bearings are gone


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bertsmobile1

BTW, thanks guys for the input.....Curious. Can i test the electric pto clutch and see if that is the issue. Just curious on a way to the test it.
With a pair of jumper wires around 5 A wire,
No need to worry about polarity but if it has a T shaped plug the top of the T is generally wired +.
Naturally disconnect the entire unit,
Don;t bother to put a meter on the other side of the plug unless there is some one in the seat


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JD is best

JD is best

Do you have sufficient spark?


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motoman

If load is the problem does it now hesitate on hills without PTO? If load is the problem it may be an engine power problem-just enough to drive on flats, not enough to engage clutch or pull hill. Does one cyl cut out? Do basic engine checks, compression etc. Check plug color for brown tinge of adequate carb enrichment on demand. Just ideas.


#11

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shiftsuper175607

I agree with the bad bearing on a spindle or idler pulley answer.


#12

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supertech

I have a 66 inch carbureted Kawasaki 2011 model doing the same thing right now, what happens is it loses a cylinder. All belts,pulleys,blades,carb,fuel pump,vavle lash,spark are great. All safety switches are ok and the fuel is fresh and clean no water. Check your fuel for water first, If water is in fuel it will only lose power when under load. If fuel is good then I am starting think maybe the charging system is at fault, It take a lot of current to keep the PTO clutch engaged , my thinking is it may be taking away from the ignition system spark. This will be my next test today.


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bertsmobile1

I have a 66 inch carbureted Kawasaki 2011 model doing the same thing right now, what happens is it loses a cylinder. All belts,pulleys,blades,carb,fuel pump,vavle lash,spark are great. All safety switches are ok and the fuel is fresh and clean no water. Check your fuel for water first, If water is in fuel it will only lose power when under load. If fuel is good then I am starting think maybe the charging system is at fault, It take a lot of current to keep the PTO clutch engaged , my thinking is it may be taking away from the ignition system spark. This will be my next test today.

No.
Spark & generator are totally separate.
However the magic pudding does no exist so it takes power ( from engine ) to make power ( electricity for PTO )


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parkerjm1

Thanks, I’ll go check the suggestions you made and see if that changes anything with the mower. I appreciate the help. I


#15

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supertech

The bearing in PTO can go bad at times. You can usually hear it. I saw one catch fire from to much load. It melted.


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cruzenmike

I had this same problem with my Lazer Z and it ended up being the engine speed. For some reason the top no load speed had drifted down to around 3100 rpm and should have been 3650. If engaging at half throttle as suggested on the placard next to the PTO switch, the mower would bog down and die. Once the top no load rpm was properly adjusted and the cables put back in their place, it raised the half throttle rpm and now the PTO can engage with sufficient power to not die. I did also replace my PTO Clutch due to a bad bearing but I simply had the typical whining/droning noise when the PTO was not engaged. It is usually the bottom bearing that fails and can only be noticed when the PTO is not engaged. If you have a complete failure of the clutch it can also lock the engine up or demolish the clutch.


#17

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Romore

If you have a twin cylinder engine make sure it is firing on both. Using a well insulated screwdriver ground each plug in turn, if nothing happens on one you have found your problem. If the engine quits the other one is at fault


#18

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Fish

Yeah, just unplug one plug wire, and try to start. Then try it on the other plug wire, one plugged in, the other plugged.

Also, take off the belts and try things...

Probably find it is just a bad switch, or one that isn't being engaged....


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altereddezignz

Had this issue on my mower. Junk got past filter and had clogged up one jet inside carb. Would only show when under a load with blades being engaged.



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