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Lawn Mower Safety
#1
T
ThePromisedLawn
T
ThePromisedLawn
I'm a student working on a project that has to do with the safety of ride on lawn mowers. I was wondering if you guys could help!
The link below takes you to a 5 question survey. It would be appreciated if you could take the minute to fill it out!
Riding Lawn Mower - 0%
Thanks in advance.
The link below takes you to a 5 question survey. It would be appreciated if you could take the minute to fill it out!
Riding Lawn Mower - 0%
Thanks in advance.
#2
Carscw
Carscw
I took it.
I said what I always say if a child gets hurt on or around a mower the parents need a good country azz kicking.
I said what I always say if a child gets hurt on or around a mower the parents need a good country azz kicking.
#3
reynoldston
reynoldston
I did your survey but don't believe most of it. Just how do you know all these numbers you are coming up with. Yes mower accidents can happen but its something I don't think happens very often. You will find that the modern lawn mower is quit safe .
#4
davbell22602
davbell22602
I find it hard to believe the numbers that are mentioned in the survey.
#5
T
ThePromisedLawn
These numbers are taken from the CPSC(Consumer product safety commission), using the National Electronic Injury Surveillance System. Then cross checked with hospital electronic statistics.
We're just wondering why most of these accidents are happening. It seems like most people think think people are stupid, now I'm wondering what specifically happens that causes people to get injured.
T
ThePromisedLawn
I did your survey but don't believe most of it. Just how do you know all these numbers you are coming up with. Yes mower accidents can happen but its something I don't think happens very often. You will find that the modern lawn mower is quit safe .
These numbers are taken from the CPSC(Consumer product safety commission), using the National Electronic Injury Surveillance System. Then cross checked with hospital electronic statistics.
We're just wondering why most of these accidents are happening. It seems like most people think think people are stupid, now I'm wondering what specifically happens that causes people to get injured.
#6
Lawnboy18
Lawnboy18
For which class is this for?
Your questions don't all line up correctly. You simply ask if we own a riding lawn mower and that's it for the first question. It should say skip question #2 if you don't own a riding lawn mower or something like that. The people that donnot own one might not exacly understand what is the purpose of the whole thing.
Your questions don't all line up correctly. You simply ask if we own a riding lawn mower and that's it for the first question. It should say skip question #2 if you don't own a riding lawn mower or something like that. The people that donnot own one might not exacly understand what is the purpose of the whole thing.
#7
Carscw
I would think most people are hurt from rollover and drunk mowing. Next being hit by a object coming from under the deck.
With all the safety switches on riding mowers I would not thing to many are getting cut by the blade.
I have seen guys mowing with a small child on the mower with them.
I have 100s of mowers and my step kids 10-12-15 and two grand kids 3-4 know not to ever touch a mower.
I am going to guess that 90% of injuries come from just being dumb
Carscw
These numbers are taken from the CPSC(Consumer product safety commission), using the National Electronic Injury Surveillance System. Then cross checked with hospital electronic statistics. We're just wondering why most of these accidents are happening. It seems like most people think think people are stupid, now I'm wondering what specifically happens that causes people to get injured.
I would think most people are hurt from rollover and drunk mowing. Next being hit by a object coming from under the deck.
With all the safety switches on riding mowers I would not thing to many are getting cut by the blade.
I have seen guys mowing with a small child on the mower with them.
I have 100s of mowers and my step kids 10-12-15 and two grand kids 3-4 know not to ever touch a mower.
I am going to guess that 90% of injuries come from just being dumb
#8
exotion
exotion
In the short amount of time I've been doing this I've seen a lot of accidents... All of them were user stupidity... One example a crew mate of mine had a laborer on his crew the laborer was new.and didn't know how to adjust the height of the front wheels on a toro proline my crew mate and all his brilliance showed him by grabbing the deck and lifting the front by hand while the new.guy still had blades engaged 4 tips of his fingers are gone.
Another example less stupidity but still dumb a crew mate was on a 8 foot cherry pickers with a hedge trimmer trimming an arb the ladder tipped and he dropped the hedger he instinctially tried to catch the hedger on his was down and he grabbed it by the blade which wasn't moving but was Sharp gashed his hand open needed 15 stitches
I know these are not riding mower stuff just show stupidity
Another example less stupidity but still dumb a crew mate was on a 8 foot cherry pickers with a hedge trimmer trimming an arb the ladder tipped and he dropped the hedger he instinctially tried to catch the hedger on his was down and he grabbed it by the blade which wasn't moving but was Sharp gashed his hand open needed 15 stitches
I know these are not riding mower stuff just show stupidity
#9
Ric
I don't think it comes down to stupid. In reality there are those poeple who just aren't cut out to run Equipment of any kind regardless of type and they shouldn't. When it comes to running lawn equipment some people are right at home but put them behind a desk in an office and there freaking lost, it's just something they have no business doing or trying and these people who are getting hurt on or using mowers have no business on a mower but it doesn't mean there stupid.
Ric
These numbers are taken from the CPSC(Consumer product safety commission), using the National Electronic Injury Surveillance System. Then cross checked with hospital electronic statistics.
We're just wondering why most of these accidents are happening. It seems like most people think think people are stupid, now I'm wondering what specifically happens that causes people to get injured.
I don't think it comes down to stupid. In reality there are those poeple who just aren't cut out to run Equipment of any kind regardless of type and they shouldn't. When it comes to running lawn equipment some people are right at home but put them behind a desk in an office and there freaking lost, it's just something they have no business doing or trying and these people who are getting hurt on or using mowers have no business on a mower but it doesn't mean there stupid.
#10
Lawnboy18
Well, it is not entirely because someone isn't made to use landscaping equipment that they shouldn't use it... It doesn't make much sense to me! Some persons are just not carefull and never learn! Carefulness can be learned when you are a kid because of good parenting! They explain you why you should wear safety glasses, work boots with steel toes when mowing the lawn and how you should keep your hand away when you cut a tomato. Or, it can be at school or by a learnt lesson. It is all comon sense! It would be like saying you are not good at cooking stay away from the deep fryer! Well, this person could be good at cooking safely if she is learnt how to safely handle and use a deep fryer.
People just gotta learn how to be safe! That simple! Some don't care and some are just ignorant.
Lawnboy18
I don't think it comes down to stupid. In reality there are those poeple who just aren't cut out to run Equipment of any kind regardless of type and they shouldn't. When it comes to running lawn equipment some people are right at home but put them behind a desk in an office and there freaking lost, it's just something they have no business doing or trying and these people who are getting hurt on or using mowers have no business on a mower but it doesn't mean there stupid.
Well, it is not entirely because someone isn't made to use landscaping equipment that they shouldn't use it... It doesn't make much sense to me! Some persons are just not carefull and never learn! Carefulness can be learned when you are a kid because of good parenting! They explain you why you should wear safety glasses, work boots with steel toes when mowing the lawn and how you should keep your hand away when you cut a tomato. Or, it can be at school or by a learnt lesson. It is all comon sense! It would be like saying you are not good at cooking stay away from the deep fryer! Well, this person could be good at cooking safely if she is learnt how to safely handle and use a deep fryer.
People just gotta learn how to be safe! That simple! Some don't care and some are just ignorant.
#11
reynoldston
This isn't something that I can answer seeing I have never known anyone who ever got injured with a mower in my last 73 years. Now working with wood, chainsaws, and trees it is a different story. Also just because someone wrote down a lot of numbers I don't buy it. No doubt in my mine that injury's do happen with mowers but not that many. I don't call other people stupid because of accidents because that is very childless calling other people names. I just think most accidents happen because people get in a hurry and take short cuts. What one person may think as dangerous the next may not so who is right and who is wrong here. So let's not call people stupid because they don't think like you.
reynoldston
These numbers are taken from the CPSC(Consumer product safety commission), using the National Electronic Injury Surveillance System. Then cross checked with hospital electronic statistics.
We're just wondering why most of these accidents are happening. It seems like most people think think people are stupid, now I'm wondering what specifically happens that causes people to get injured.
This isn't something that I can answer seeing I have never known anyone who ever got injured with a mower in my last 73 years. Now working with wood, chainsaws, and trees it is a different story. Also just because someone wrote down a lot of numbers I don't buy it. No doubt in my mine that injury's do happen with mowers but not that many. I don't call other people stupid because of accidents because that is very childless calling other people names. I just think most accidents happen because people get in a hurry and take short cuts. What one person may think as dangerous the next may not so who is right and who is wrong here. So let's not call people stupid because they don't think like you.
#12
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ThePromisedLawn
Oh, sorry if it seemed like I was the one calling them stupid, I just mean from the responses that I've gotten from the forum and the survey. Most people believe it's the ignorance of other individuals that have caused these accidents. I'm just trying to figure out what is the exact reason why people think it's safe, but the statistics say otherwise.
T
ThePromisedLawn
This isn't something that I can answer seeing I have never known anyone who ever got injured with a mower in my last 73 years. Now working with wood, chainsaws, and trees it is a different story. Also just because someone wrote down a lot of numbers I don't buy it. No doubt in my mine that injury's do happen with mowers but not that many. I don't call other people stupid because of accidents because that is very childless calling other people names. I just think most accidents happen because people get in a hurry and take short cuts. What one person may think as dangerous the next may not so who is right and who is wrong here. So let's not call people stupid because they don't think like you.
Oh, sorry if it seemed like I was the one calling them stupid, I just mean from the responses that I've gotten from the forum and the survey. Most people believe it's the ignorance of other individuals that have caused these accidents. I'm just trying to figure out what is the exact reason why people think it's safe, but the statistics say otherwise.
#13
T
ThePromisedLawn
From your experience, do you think that if there was a device that stopped the blade if it detected someone reaching down to the deck? This would eliminate any stupid acts while the blade is still running.
T
ThePromisedLawn
In the short amount of time I've been doing this I've seen a lot of accidents... All of them were user stupidity... One example a crew mate of mine had a laborer on his crew the laborer was new.and didn't know how to adjust the height of the front wheels on a toro proline my crew mate and all his brilliance showed him by grabbing the deck and lifting the front by hand while the new.guy still had blades engaged 4 tips of his fingers are gone.
Another example less stupidity but still dumb a crew mate was on a 8 foot cherry pickers with a hedge trimmer trimming an arb the ladder tipped and he dropped the hedger he instinctially tried to catch the hedger on his was down and he grabbed it by the blade which wasn't moving but was Sharp gashed his hand open needed 15 stitches
I know these are not riding mower stuff just show stupidity
From your experience, do you think that if there was a device that stopped the blade if it detected someone reaching down to the deck? This would eliminate any stupid acts while the blade is still running.
#14
lawn mower fanatic
That's why there is the Roto-Stop feature on mowers where if you let go of the bar, the blades stop, but the engine stays running. It's almost impossible to get your hand in the blade without letting go of the bar, but I guess my foot could still slip under there. If there was a sensor that could sense your hand, it would probably mistake obstacles in the yard as your hand.
lawn mower fanatic
From your experience, do you think that if there was a device that stopped the blade if it detected someone reaching down to the deck? This would eliminate any stupid acts while the blade is still running.
That's why there is the Roto-Stop feature on mowers where if you let go of the bar, the blades stop, but the engine stays running. It's almost impossible to get your hand in the blade without letting go of the bar, but I guess my foot could still slip under there. If there was a sensor that could sense your hand, it would probably mistake obstacles in the yard as your hand.
#15
reynoldston
Yes there is such a thing. Its a safety device that go's on table saws. Not that I would want to try one out but as I understand you can put your hand into the table saw blade and it stops the blade so fast you don't get cut.. Its a one time thing but its better then losing a hand or finger. I would have a feeling just like the table saw no one wants to pay the big money for this and find it a lot cheaper to just keep your hand out of the blade when its running.
reynoldston
From your experience, do you think that if there was a device that stopped the blade if it detected someone reaching down to the deck? This would eliminate any stupid acts while the blade is still running.
Yes there is such a thing. Its a safety device that go's on table saws. Not that I would want to try one out but as I understand you can put your hand into the table saw blade and it stops the blade so fast you don't get cut.. Its a one time thing but its better then losing a hand or finger. I would have a feeling just like the table saw no one wants to pay the big money for this and find it a lot cheaper to just keep your hand out of the blade when its running.
#16
T
ThePromisedLawn
That's actually where we got this idea from! If the technology didn't break the blade while stopping it, would you consider getting it?
T
ThePromisedLawn
Yes there is such a thing. Its a safety device that go's on table saws. Not that I would want to try one out but as I understand you can put your hand into the table saw blade and it stops the blade so fast you don't get cut.. Its a one time thing but its better then losing a hand or finger. I would have a feeling just like the table saw no one wants to pay the big money for this and find it a lot cheaper to just keep your hand out of the blade when its running.
That's actually where we got this idea from! If the technology didn't break the blade while stopping it, would you consider getting it?
#17
Ric
Your just trying to figure out what is the exact reason why people think it's safe, but the statistics say otherwise. Let me ask you this question, Is it safe to drive your vehicle down the road or how about a motorcycle? Is it safe to own and use a gun. You will get a yes answers to those questions from the majority of people, but yet accidents and deaths happen in all and you can add other scenarios like your ride on mower as well. So does the answer to your question exist, probably not, will you get opinions, yes but the mowers will still be sold, guns will be used and vehicles will be drove and there will be people who shouldn't be allowed to operate or own them.
Ric
Oh, sorry if it seemed like I was the one calling them stupid, I just mean from the responses that I've gotten from the forum and the survey. Most people believe it's the ignorance of other individuals that have caused these accidents. I'm just trying to figure out what is the exact reason why people think it's safe, but the statistics say otherwise.
Your just trying to figure out what is the exact reason why people think it's safe, but the statistics say otherwise. Let me ask you this question, Is it safe to drive your vehicle down the road or how about a motorcycle? Is it safe to own and use a gun. You will get a yes answers to those questions from the majority of people, but yet accidents and deaths happen in all and you can add other scenarios like your ride on mower as well. So does the answer to your question exist, probably not, will you get opinions, yes but the mowers will still be sold, guns will be used and vehicles will be drove and there will be people who shouldn't be allowed to operate or own them.
#18
M
MRCo.
M
MRCo.
The system to stop the blade is not feasible on a mower in my opinion. On a saw, the electric motor can be stopped instantly as the blade is braked, but on the mower the engine pushing the spindles would still be working- even if the system deactivated the clutch it still keeps moving a while. Further, the mower blades are much heavier and have much more inertia than a saw blade. I just can't see it. I also don't think that's the big issue. I'd imagine the main issue is 'moving' accidents, like flipping the mower. And good luck with that- just like tree service guys and chaps, lawn pros don't use their ROPS because it looks cheesy!
#19
exotion
If it were to stop the blade fast enough ....
exotion
From your experience, do you think that if there was a device that stopped the blade if it detected someone reaching down to the deck? This would eliminate any stupid acts while the blade is still running.
If it were to stop the blade fast enough ....
#20
M
MRCo.
M
MRCo.
Another thought- effective sopping for zero turn in a slide would be the thought, to me, that it needs to come about in terms of is to fail safely. The brakes are out there and I would love to see how they work. They claim they do as when you brake, the front end of the vehicle / mower / whatever dips (which it does) adding pressure and thus braking performance from the front wheels. My only question on that would be that if the mower is leaning away, bouncing, and the front wheels do not have constant and solid ground contact, then where is the brake power coming from to make the front dip to add braking power to the front wheels. Am I making my point? It's a chicken and egg thing. Just a thought.
#21
exotion
Uhmmm what?
exotion
Another thought- effective sopping for zero turn in a lied would be he think, to me, that needs to come about in terms of a is to a safety failing. Ted brakes are out there and I would live to see how they work. They claim they do as when you brake, the front end of the vehicle / mower / whatever dips (which it does) adding pressure and thus braking performance from the front wheels. My only question on that would be that if the mower is inning away, bouncing, and the front wheels do not have constant and sold ground contact, then where is the brake power coming from to make the front dip to add braking power to the front wheels. Am I making my point? It's a chicken and egg thing. Just a thought.
Uhmmm what?
#22
Carscw
Ok you lost me. Slow down and try it one more time
Carscw
Another thought- effective sopping for zero turn in a lied would be he think, to me, that needs to come about in terms of a is to a safety failing. Ted brakes are out there and I would live to see how they work. They claim they do as when you brake, the front end of the vehicle / mower / whatever dips (which it does) adding pressure and thus braking performance from the front wheels. My only question on that would be that if the mower is inning away, bouncing, and the front wheels do not have constant and sold ground contact, then where is the brake power coming from to make the front dip to add braking power to the front wheels. Am I making my point? It's a chicken and egg thing. Just a thought.
Ok you lost me. Slow down and try it one more time
#23
reynoldston
reynoldston
I can see it isn't only me ???
#24
Mid TN Lawn
Mid TN Lawn
Problem with stats they lump zero turn and riding mowers together. I personally saw one 24 year old die this year on a zero turn. We lost 27 in TN this year on zero turn mowers. TOSHA has done little to push requirements for training and safety equipment. Franklin,TN parks lost a 20plus year employee on almost flat ground in zero turn rollover. Next most common death is riding out in front of cars.
I have training and safety meeting weekly and comply with OSHA And TOSHA i encourage all to do same.
I have training and safety meeting weekly and comply with OSHA And TOSHA i encourage all to do same.
#25
reynoldston
Too bad this has to happen, The next thing will be that you will need a license to operate a lawn mower.
reynoldston
Problem with stats they lump zero turn and riding mowers together. I personally saw one 24 year old die this year on a zero turn. We lost 27 in TN this year on zero turn mowers. TOSHA has done little to push requirements for training and safety equipment. Franklin,TN parks lost a 20plus year employee on almost flat ground in zero turn rollover. Next most common death is riding out in front of cars.
I have training and safety meeting weekly and comply with OSHA And TOSHA i encourage all to do same.
Too bad this has to happen, The next thing will be that you will need a license to operate a lawn mower.
#26
Mid TN Lawn
Mid TN Lawn
You have to have license in TN to operate towmotorsToo bad this has to happen, The next thing will be that you will need a license to operate a lawn mower.
#27
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LoCo86
That's the problem and probably the leading cause of injury or death for lawn mower related accidents, lack of training, whether it be in safety of experience. Everyone gets in a big hurry and I understand that time is money, but your life and having all your fingers and toes means more. I would like to know how long these operators have been mowing and how long they have been using the piece of equipment that they had their accident on.
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LoCo86
Problem with stats they lump zero turn and riding mowers together. I personally saw one 24 year old die this year on a zero turn. We lost 27 in TN this year on zero turn mowers. TOSHA has done little to push requirements for training and safety equipment. Franklin,TN parks lost a 20plus year employee on almost flat ground in zero turn rollover. Next most common death is riding out in front of cars. I have training and safety meeting weekly and comply with OSHA And TOSHA i encourage all to do same.
That's the problem and probably the leading cause of injury or death for lawn mower related accidents, lack of training, whether it be in safety of experience. Everyone gets in a big hurry and I understand that time is money, but your life and having all your fingers and toes means more. I would like to know how long these operators have been mowing and how long they have been using the piece of equipment that they had their accident on.
#28
M
MRCo.
M
MRCo.
Goes to show my iPad is getting old, it misses keystrokes...let me repost....Ok you lost me. Slow down and try it one more time
#29
M
MRCo.
M
MRCo.
So, front end brakes work by a feedback loop of braking making the front of a vehicle dip, adding traction to the front tires. This makes braking better, which deepens the dip...etc. so- these Ted brakes need the mower front to dip in order to get traction and work. But if your zero turn is sliding, how do you ensure the front dips to give you traction for the caster wheel brakes?Another thought- effective stopping for zero turn in a slide would be the thing, to me, that needs to come about in terms of safety. 'Ted' brakes are out there and I would love to see how they work. They claim they work as when you brake, the front end of the vehicle / mower / whatever dips (which it does) adding pressure and thus braking performance from the front wheels. My only question on that would be that if the mower is sliding away, bouncing, and the front wheels do not have constant and solid ground contact- then where is the brake power coming from to make the front of the mower dip to add braking power to the front wheels? Am I making my point? It's a chicken and egg thing. Just a thought.
#30
Mid TN Lawn
Mid TN Lawn
If you start to slide you have to accelerate out of it. Catch the wheels up and drive out of it if possible. The answer is 4wheel drive zero turn if your on a slope or walkbehind or stander
#31
exotion
Thing with 4wd mowers is the center of gravity and weight distribution.. one wheel starts slipping its going to sink so more weight will be on the slipping tire and less on the wheels you want traction to. They would need a form of posi-trac for that to work
exotion
If you start to slide you have to accelerate out of it. Catch the wheels up and drive out of it if possible. The answer is 4wheel drive zero turn if your on a slope or walkbehind or stander
Thing with 4wd mowers is the center of gravity and weight distribution.. one wheel starts slipping its going to sink so more weight will be on the slipping tire and less on the wheels you want traction to. They would need a form of posi-trac for that to work
#32
Mid TN Lawn
Mid TN Lawn
You will never have that problem on kubotas front deck four wheel drive model it is designed to mow slopes sideways hold as well as tractor. Great mowers
#33
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panabiker
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panabiker
Ok, I never operated a zero-turn but can someone tell me why a zero-turn is more "deadly" than, say, a conventional rider? Is is prone to tip over when making a turn, or on a slope?
#34
M
MRCo.
M
MRCo.
It doesn't have wheels that change direction to steer, it steers via the movement of the drive wheels. So if the drive wheels lose traction you can't turn the front wheels for some directional control, you have no control unless your rear drive wheels gain traction again.Ok, I never operated a zero-turn but can someone tell me why a zero-turn is more "deadly" than, say, a conventional rider? Is is prone to tip over when making a turn, or on a slope?
#35
Ric
I don't know where you get the idea that a ztr is more deadly than a conventional rider because it's not so. The thing that makes it as any mower dangerous is the person using it or should I say not knowing how to use it correctly. People tend to push mowers beyond there limits as well as pushing themselves beyond there own limits, it's people who are dangerous not the mower.
Ric
Ok, I never operated a zero-turn but can someone tell me why a zero-turn is more "deadly" than, say, a conventional rider? Is is prone to tip over when making a turn, or on a slope?
I don't know where you get the idea that a ztr is more deadly than a conventional rider because it's not so. The thing that makes it as any mower dangerous is the person using it or should I say not knowing how to use it correctly. People tend to push mowers beyond there limits as well as pushing themselves beyond there own limits, it's people who are dangerous not the mower.
#36
P
panabiker
In my post, I implied that I know little about ZTR. I just read this thread and someone mentioned earlier the number of lives lost on ZTR, and that the ZTR should be separately counted from the rest for accident stats. This is why I asked for explanations.
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panabiker
I don't know where you get the idea that a ztr is more deadly than a conventional rider because it's not so.
In my post, I implied that I know little about ZTR. I just read this thread and someone mentioned earlier the number of lives lost on ZTR, and that the ZTR should be separately counted from the rest for accident stats. This is why I asked for explanations.
#37
Parkmower
I've run 4wd front mounts for over 15 years. They are still not safe or designed for slopes. Yes I do things on these that would make a lot of operators need new undies. But that doesn't make it ok or safe. We have had 3 roll overs luckily only scrapes and bruises. I almost rolled a jake this past summer sliding sideways down a slope downhill tire cought a rut and uphill wheel went off the ground. I thought i was done And luckily it plopped back down.
We are currently lookin into ventracs with double wheel set ups.
Parkmower
You will never have that problem on kubotas front deck four wheel drive model it is designed to mow slopes sideways hold as well as tractor. Great mowers
I've run 4wd front mounts for over 15 years. They are still not safe or designed for slopes. Yes I do things on these that would make a lot of operators need new undies. But that doesn't make it ok or safe. We have had 3 roll overs luckily only scrapes and bruises. I almost rolled a jake this past summer sliding sideways down a slope downhill tire cought a rut and uphill wheel went off the ground. I thought i was done And luckily it plopped back down.
We are currently lookin into ventracs with double wheel set ups.
#38
Parkmower
You ever run one? How many hours?
Parkmower
You will never have that problem on kubotas front deck four wheel drive model it is designed to mow slopes sideways hold as well as tractor. Great mowers
You ever run one? How many hours?
#39
Ric
My suggestion to anyone is to read the Operator's Manuals that come with there mower and if you don't have a manual visit a dealer that sells the machine and ask for one. All manuals have a list of safe operating practices and training procedures, the do and do not of operation, they also have a slope Indicator that will tell you the maximum degree of slope you can safely operate the machine on with a section on slope operation and how to mow slopes.
The thing is I've never known a Ztr or a Lawn Tractor or any mower that had a brain. Accidents on mowers can mostly be attributed to or blamed on there operators themselves not knowing how to operate the machine or pushing the machine past or beyond its limits and putting it and themselves in a situation it's not intended for and what happens the mower gets a bad reputation because of someones stupidity.
Ric
In my post, I implied that I know little about ZTR. I just read this thread and someone mentioned earlier the number of lives lost on ZTR, and that the ZTR should be separately counted from the rest for accident stats. This is why I asked for explanations.
My suggestion to anyone is to read the Operator's Manuals that come with there mower and if you don't have a manual visit a dealer that sells the machine and ask for one. All manuals have a list of safe operating practices and training procedures, the do and do not of operation, they also have a slope Indicator that will tell you the maximum degree of slope you can safely operate the machine on with a section on slope operation and how to mow slopes.
The thing is I've never known a Ztr or a Lawn Tractor or any mower that had a brain. Accidents on mowers can mostly be attributed to or blamed on there operators themselves not knowing how to operate the machine or pushing the machine past or beyond its limits and putting it and themselves in a situation it's not intended for and what happens the mower gets a bad reputation because of someones stupidity.
#40
Mid TN Lawn
Mid TN Lawn
Yes as far as hours who can answer that question i started mowing 29 years ago commercially and had run mowers and tractors prior to that.You ever run one? How many hours?
#41
Mid TN Lawn
Mid TN Lawn
Exp. and caution alone and even training do not prevent accidents we can only try to reduce them but if you mow any volume of properties you are always at risk.
Over confident in ones ability can be dangerous.
Also to answer one persons earlier question ztrs roll easier than most think and many brands do not have rops or it is in down position and no seatbelts.
People often roll into ponds and drown which is stupid to mow pond or lake banks with ztr.
Over confident in ones ability can be dangerous.
Also to answer one persons earlier question ztrs roll easier than most think and many brands do not have rops or it is in down position and no seatbelts.
People often roll into ponds and drown which is stupid to mow pond or lake banks with ztr.
#42
Ric
A little training can go a long way enhancing ones ability to properly operate a ztr or any mower for that fact correctly. Knowing a mowers limitations along with yours can greatly reduce the risk of accidents.
Ric
Exp. and caution alone and even training do not prevent accidents we can only try to reduce them but if you mow any volume of properties you are always at risk.
Over confident in ones ability can be dangerous.
Also to answer one persons earlier question ztrs roll easier than most think and many brands do not have rops or it is in down position and no seatbelts.
People often roll into ponds and drown which is stupid to mow pond or lake banks with ztr.
A little training can go a long way enhancing ones ability to properly operate a ztr or any mower for that fact correctly. Knowing a mowers limitations along with yours can greatly reduce the risk of accidents.
#43
U
umtg0jn
DUMB is the word here. Vast majority of "accidents" are simply operator error. Check out the Darwin Awards candidates for examples of dumb. Visited the consumer site mentioned and found the data was a 1987 report with the number of injuries listed as 18,000 not 80,000.
The number of unprotected operators would have been quite high in the 1980's. New, safer equipment is gradually added as older machines wear out and are scrapped. In the 80's I was still using 60's and 70's mowers without safety brakes or discharge shields because that is what I owned. It was in the 90's before I purchased a "modern" mower.
Other factors are the lawns that are being mowed. While living in a river town in Iowa, mowing my back yard involved tying a rope to the mower, starting the engine, allowing it to roll down the slope then pulling it up the slope and repeating the process until the grass was cut. Think there is an accident potential here? This was the normal procedure in some locations where the lawns are too steep to walk on much less push a mower. Ditch banks are all over the country. Current address had a deep ditch when we build our home 20 years ago. It required using a grass trimmer or risky push mowing. Installed corrugated culverts and leveled the entire front lawn to the street.
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umtg0jn
I would think most people are hurt from rollover and drunk mowing. Next being hit by a object coming from under the deck.
With all the safety switches on riding mowers I would not thing to many are getting cut by the blade.
I have seen guys mowing with a small child on the mower with them.
I have 100s of mowers and my step kids 10-12-15 and two grand kids 3-4 know not to ever touch a mower.
I am going to guess that 90% of injuries come from just being dumb
DUMB is the word here. Vast majority of "accidents" are simply operator error. Check out the Darwin Awards candidates for examples of dumb. Visited the consumer site mentioned and found the data was a 1987 report with the number of injuries listed as 18,000 not 80,000.
The number of unprotected operators would have been quite high in the 1980's. New, safer equipment is gradually added as older machines wear out and are scrapped. In the 80's I was still using 60's and 70's mowers without safety brakes or discharge shields because that is what I owned. It was in the 90's before I purchased a "modern" mower.
Other factors are the lawns that are being mowed. While living in a river town in Iowa, mowing my back yard involved tying a rope to the mower, starting the engine, allowing it to roll down the slope then pulling it up the slope and repeating the process until the grass was cut. Think there is an accident potential here? This was the normal procedure in some locations where the lawns are too steep to walk on much less push a mower. Ditch banks are all over the country. Current address had a deep ditch when we build our home 20 years ago. It required using a grass trimmer or risky push mowing. Installed corrugated culverts and leveled the entire front lawn to the street.
#44
reynoldston
Can't compare a fork truck (towmotor) with a lawn mower. I repaired fork trucks for about 10 years in NY and needed a fork truck operators license for that job. You need that operators license to operate a fork truck in any large company.
reynoldston
You have to have license in TN to operate towmotors
Can't compare a fork truck (towmotor) with a lawn mower. I repaired fork trucks for about 10 years in NY and needed a fork truck operators license for that job. You need that operators license to operate a fork truck in any large company.