Operators Manual (265 ACX Operators Manual Sep 2012 HUSO2012_EUenAPen_1154252-26.pdf)
6.4 Timer (2)When you set the timer, assume that Automower 260 ACX mows about 250 square meters per hour.
Operators Manual (260 ACX Operators Manual Sep 2012 HUSO2010_EUenAPen_1152764-26.pdf)
6.4 Timer (2)
When you set the timer, assume that Automower 260 ACX mows about 230 square metres per hour
Quick Guide (Automower 260 Quick Guide HUSO2009_EUenAPen_1151309-26.pdf)
Automower 260 ACX cuts around 210 square metres per hour . . .
I, for one, wish to welcome our new robotic mower Overlords.
Haha I see a new movie soon. When automowers retaliate
Your automower seems to have the intelligence and maturity of a young child that needs constant parental supervision and attention.
A new Sy-Fy channel flick; an earthquake in new Zealand sends a tsunami of angry, robotic mowers into a crowded beach - it's called
CHEW-NAMI !
The learning (curve) continues.
Watts Down
Yesterday, we had a long electricity supply failure. Coxy was stopped, out on the lawn,
when I looked. "Damn," I muttered, "I'll have to go a manually restart the mower when
the electricity supply is restored."
Took quite a while before we had juice running down the wires again. Even killed one
incandescent light bulb, when it did come back on. I glanced out the window before
going outside to re-start Coxy and there he was: mowing away happily!
So it seems that while a lost loop signal will stop an automower in its tracks (as indeed
I think it should!), it will resume operations auto-mower-matically once the power is
restored. That's good to know.
Slow Down
The 265ACX has two ground travel speeds. I've noticed that it cuts back to half speed
when it nears a boundary wire, rather than just when its ultrasonic sensors spot some
obstruction, just ahead.
Coxy has been doing a lot of wet weather mowing, recently. A lot more grass is being
cut that way, than if I had to get out there on a ride on, that's for sure. Drops a few
clumps of grass shaving here and there, but next time it runs over them, it does tend
to scatter them into nothingness.
Best played in a smaller browser tab/window area.
to avoid too much pixelation distortion.
http://www.spiller.kiwi.nz/coxy/coxy_video_01.avi
http://www.spiller.kiwi.nz/coxy/coxy_video_02.avi
http://www.spiller.kiwi.nz/coxy/coxy_video_03.avi
Although there's not much background to help get any
scale relativity from, those video clips may give you
some idea of size. However, the 265ACX is quite a lot
bigger than most initial indications conveyed to me.
A lot of that size is the plastic skirt, though. I.e. it's
not too heavy to lift and cart around.
Maybe one day a commercial yard service can buy a half dozen of these, drop them out along his route, then come back and get paid as he picks them up. :confused2:
Any other automower blades buyers reading this thread?
What units do you buy them in?
What's the cost per pack or per unit of a blade & pivot screw?
Today, I had the opportunity to observe the performance at my place.How long the Automower mows and recharges will vary depending on,
among other things, the age of the battery, how thick the grass is and
the ambient temperature. Above 25 degrees C, both the mowing and
charging times gradually drop. Below 25 degrees C, a fully charged
Automower will:
265
mow for approximately 80 minutes. Then the mower will charge for
approximately 40 minutes220/230
mow for approximately 60 - 90 minutes, (40 - 60 minutes for 220 AC),
The mower then charges for approximately 45 - 60 minutes.
This will crack you up. Well, maybe not literally. But the joke's on Coxy.
Today, I noticed a stress fracture in Coxy's cowling / plastic skirt. The
red arrow indicates the pressure point when Coxy encounters an object
in his path.
Where the cowling fracture is - based on my limited engineering know-
ledge of compression and tension stresses - is where the fulcrum of an
impact moment would be felt, the most strongly.
Coxy is still working OK, so the copper plate strips that connect with the docking
station to recharge the batteries are obviously not impaired by the fracture.
Now I get to test the Husqvarna Warranty / Guarantee. Lucky me!
This will crack you up. Well, maybe not literally. But the joke's on Coxy.
Today, I noticed a stress fracture in Coxy's cowling / plastic skirt. The
red arrow indicates the pressure point when Coxy encounters an object
in his path.
Where the cowling fracture is - based on my limited engineering know-
ledge of compression and tension stresses - is where the fulcrum of an
impact moment would be felt, the most strongly.
Coxy is still working OK, so the copper plate strips that connect with the docking
station to recharge the batteries are obviously not impaired by the fracture.
Now I get to test the Husqvarna Warranty / Guarantee. Lucky me!
Subject: Re: Hullo, Husqvarna, We Have A Problem
Date: Mon 28 October 2013
Today, I noticed a stress fracture in Coxy's cowling / plastic skirt.
Subject: Re: Hullo, Husqvarna, We Have A Problem
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013
I discovered this in the spam folder. I will bring it to the manager's attention as soon as he is back.
Subject: Re: Hullo, Husqvarna, We Have A Problem
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013
The manager has looked at your email and says that he will show it to the Husqvarna Rep as soon as he comes past again.
He will let you know what he says and what they are going to do about it.
Subject: Re: Hullo, Husqvarna, We Have A Problem
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 14:44:11 +1300
Just keeping you in the loop that this has now been forwarded to the Husqvarna guys to have a look at.
Will keep you updated when we know anything more.
Obstacles that can withstand a collision, for example,
trees or bushes higher than 15 cm, do not need to be
demarcated by the boundary wire. Automower will
turn when it collides with this type of obstacle.
Hi - I have just purchased an 230ACX - and we are doing our own installation. We have 20 trees that are in the lawn - the auto mower hits them from time to time and reverses away. Should we have looped them with boundary wire? It's a lot of trees to loop wire around and back again.
The manual for the 230ACX says the same thing on page 25 ofObstacles that can withstand a collision, for example,
trees or bushes higher than 15 cm, do not need to be
demarcated by the boundary wire. Automower will
turn when it collides with this type of obstacle.
My next question - we just assumed that it would trim right up to the grass edges. We've set out boundary wire at 12 inches on the garden edges, and have a nice strip of unmown grass all around our boundaries. However, we are thinking about moving them all to 5 or 6 inches and allowing the mower to drive into the gardens - the gardens are all mulches and level with the lawn with a wooden edge that is at dirt level. What do you think? I might just move one section closer and see if the front wheels have any trouble driving in the gardens before reversing.
I wonder how long it will take for it to crack again?
Unfortunately, it gets worse. Maybe not a five o'clocker - just a damned lemon?!
After calling in to the dealer's, earlier in the day, on an unrelated matter,
I returned home on Tuesday 7 January to this:
The countersunk cap screw had fallen out of the retaining hubcap. The capscrew was
nearby, so I successfully re-attached the wheel assembly, but I am starting to wonder
just what the hell will be next!
How many hours a day is this thing running ?
According to the manual, it's supposed to be 17 hours-a-day in the grass-growing
season, given the size of my lawn area. However, it's doing around 15 hours-a-day,
starting at 0830 and finishing for the day @ 2325. (11.25pm) Seven days-a-week.
That seems to be adequate.
That seems like a lot of abuse for any machine ... Let alone a little robot
I don't know much about these mowers, but you kind of need to have it run all the time because if you let it run like every 5 days, your yard would look like a maze because there is no pattern to the way the mower goes, so there would be paths all over. But I agree that is a lot of use.
I know I am just thinking that's a lot of abuse for any machine big expensive commercial grade z turns wouldn't even stand up to constant running like that
7. GARDEN EXAMPLE
Proposals for installation and settings
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Area: 3500 m 2.
Timer: Operating time of 17 hours per day.
Exit angles: 90 - 270 degreesー.
Follow loop out: Direction Guide 1, Distance
25 metres and Proportion 30%.
Search method: Irregular and Follow guide
wire in.
Delay: Guide 1 2 minutes, Guide 2 2 minutes
and boundary wire 99 minutes. Automower
is never permitted to follow the boundary wire.
Corridor width: Guide 1 6
Proposals for installation and settings
-----------------------------------------------------
Area: 4500 m 2.
Timer: Operating time of 24 hours per day.
Exit angles: 90 - 270 degrees.
Search method: Irregular and Follow guide
wire in.
Delay: Guide 1 2 minutes, Guide 2 2 minutes
and boundary wire 99 minutes. Automower
is never permitted to follow the boundary wire.
Corridor width: 19.
It's not right the way some salespeople don't seem to care.
It's the putting right that counts.
If you bought it from us and it doesn't do what we say it should,
we'll replace it.
And if you don't get the right response when you bring anything
back to our stores, ask for me by name - Alan Martin.
Many, many years ago, in the days of black and white TV in New Zealand,
a company took a bold step with it's advertising. The owner appeared in
the advert and commented along these lines:
That man and that advert became household bywords. I once visited
one of the LV Martin stores with a problem product and the response
was as advertised. The salesperson showed genuine concern, asked
no questions, offered a replacement or anything else from the shop
to the same value; even expressing greater contrition because the
item was a birthday present to me.
It's the putting right that counts.
Believe the manuals? Yeah, right.
Your Coxy seems to follow some strange curves, while our Fido tends to keep pretty straight. Also, Fido's angle of turn varies progressively from about 160 deg to about 10 deg and back again.
I was once asked the question "If it's cutting continuously, why doesn't the grass get shorter and shorter?"
I didn't know where to start my answer.
A few days ago an electricity meter reader chap asked "How long does it take to get the grass down?", which I think is the same sort of question.
Isn't it wonderful how the lawns are always immaculate, and how the grass gets more and more dense?
Those pictures really demonstrate the random directions the mower goes when turning around. Luckily when there's no dew on the grass the paths probably aren't noticeable!
Owners Manual said:10. Technical data
Mean energy consumption at maximum use 54 kWh/month with
a working area of 6000 M square
That is indeed the overall winning feature. Additionally, when I get too old and dodderyI'm just so pleased that he gets on with the job while I get on with something else!
LODGING: How can a robo mower feel needed and develop properly when shoved under a leaky , lonely deck for shelter? You would not put your dog there, would you?
That's a good idea. I'll assess the situation when I do the next wheel. Can that expanding foam can be easily cut and trimmed, once it's set? I suspect it can. Or maybe use petroleum jelly smeared over certain parts, so it can be pulled away from where it's not wanted?I wonder if the interior of the wheels could be , carefully, filled with expanding foam as well? Certainly they would still need to be separable so, may need some creativity to mask-off a plane of separation as well as the 3 assembly points.
That's a good idea. I'll assess the situation when I do the next wheel. Can that expanding foam can be easily cut and trimmed, once it's set? I suspect it can. Or maybe use petroleum jelly smeared over certain parts, so it can be pulled away from where it's not wanted?
I wish I could reply intelligently to all that, but what you describe is somewhat beyond my present understanding - sorry. However, I looked at various sources, so have gleaned some small idea of what your talking about.1 Lucky Texan said:the 18650 cyl. batt (18.6 × 65.2 - ~68mm with prot. crct.) is probably in a vast majority of Li-ion powered products. is the present pack's dimension some multiple of those battery dimensions? Quite possible they are the newer 21700 size, maybe 12 in that 'pack'.
Are they? It's hard to tell. There is no obvious outwards sign that there are two standard cells inside each green outer.so the sub-assembled battery packs are 2x 18650 s.
Not me. That's one of the old battery packs, unwrapped by me. We have battery pack re-builders in New Zealand and one has responded saying that he thinks the hardest part would be getting the Boston Swing 4400 batteries into NZ, given how nervous carriers are about Li-ion batteries.did you just move the circuit boards over from the old pack?
Despite all cells and packs showing the appropriate voltage, I suspect that it was depth-of-charge that became the problem. That observation is based on Coxy's charging station visits seeming to become about double in frequency. And that seemed sudden, too. I.e. no slow progression.A lot of the charge controllers have a counter in them which is set to shut off the battery pack after a specified number of recharges. Thus you MIGHT find that a repacked battery will stop working suddenly for no apparent reason.
Are they? It's hard to tell. There is no obvious outwards sign that there are two standard cells inside each green outer.
EDIT:
I stripped the green wrapping off the outer (two sides on two cells) and there's a metallic all-in-one case, underneath that. Still could be two cells inside that, I suppose.
Not me. That's one of the old battery packs, unwrapped by me. We have battery pack re-builders in New Zealand and one has responded saying that he thinks the hardest part would be getting the Boston Swing 4400 batteries into NZ, given how nervous carriers are about Li-ion batteries.
But, now that I have had the new ones installed, then, based on the life of the original packs, the need for another replacement should be 4 years away.
BOSTON POWER SWING 4400
Re-battery: Li-Ion; 2xMR18650
A lot of the charge controllers have a counter in them which is set to shut off the battery pack after a specified number of recharges.
This is a safety issue as over time the batteries degrade and pose a fire risk exactly the same as what happens with laptops a few years back.
Thus you MIGHT find that a repacked battery will stop working suddenly for no apparent reason.
have a look around, we have a lot of workshops that repack old lap top batteries and they usually can do most power tools as well.
These place have the knowledge & equipment to reset a counting if it is there.
So where it says . . .part of the description at that link indicates it 2 ea. 18650
. . . . you reckon that means the pack contains, rather than the pack size is 18650.Battery size - 2xMR18650
So where it says . . .
. . . . you reckon that means the pack contains, rather than the pack size is 18650.
When fossicking around, looking for batteries, I got the idea that the 18650 was a size factors number. I.e. the battery was 18mm diameter by 65 mm long. (Don't recall what the zero stood for)
If there are indeed two individual cells in there, they sure have gone to a lot of trouble to contain them.
BOSTON POWER SONATA 5300
Re-battery: Li-Ion; 2xMR18650; 3.7V; 5300mAh; 37.3x64.8x19mm
BOSTON POWER SWING 4400
Re-battery: Li-Ion; 2xMR18650; 3.7V; 4400mAh; 37.1x64.8x18.5mm
Sonata 5300
Boston-Power’s Sonata 5300 is a high performance lithium-ion rechargeable cell. Its exceptional energy density, industry-leading cycle life, fast charge capability, and industry leading safety features make the Sonata 5300 an ideal solution for industrial, medical, military, notebook computer sensor, and other portable power applications.
COXY COSTINGS (NZ Dollars) | ||
Purchase date | 14/08/2013 | |
Purchase cost | 6,011.16 | |
Number of months | 51 | |
Costs calculated to 28 Nov 2016 | ||
Operational hours running time from mower clock | 8,239 | |
Puchase of battery packs from Germany | 585.26 | |
Outdoor Power | ||
Replace battery packs, supply & fit new blade disc | ||
bearing and housing - labour, etc. | 214.25 | |
Front wheel tyres | 24.27 | |
Blades & blade bolts (approx. 12 packs, 9 per pack) | 108 | |
cost per blade and bolt set | 0.70 | 75.60 |
Electricity per hour x hours run over 51 months | 0.03 | 230.69 |
Running costs | 1,130.07 | |
Running costs per month = | 22.16 | |
Capital costs | 6,011.16 | |
All costs | 7,141.23 | |
Therefore all costs per month over 51 months= | 140.02 | |
Per month costs projected over 8 and 12 years | ||
Projecting all costs amortised over 102 months (8 years) | 70.01 | |
Projecting all costs amortised over 153 months (12 years) | 46.67 |
From what I can tell, the battery packs are quite different. If you look at the pic below, you can see the extra pair. Coxy did not have those extra two piggy-backed. Chevy (what he's been named) mows for over 4 hours between charges and spends an hour re-charging. Coxy was 2 hours mowing 30 mins. re-charging. But 5 blades and and extra 4 inches cutting disc diameter likely explains that differing behaviour of Coxy.can you keep the new battery packs for the new one?
The problem is that mower shops are not yet electronics engineers / repairers.can you get a replacement PC board?
Hybrid dwarfing rye, mostly (lolium perenne) with some agrostis stoloniferous (creeping bent) and - more recently - some over-sown chewings and creeping red fescue. (Festuca rubra xxxx)Perry, what kind of grass is your lawn and what cutting height(s) do you use?
not trying to thread hi-jack, maybe borrow?
What would folks look for nowadays in a robotic mower?
Manual said:This function allows the robotic lawnmower to automatically adjust its mowing times based on how quick the lawn grows. When the weather is good for grass growth, the robotic lawnmower mows more often and when grass growth is slower, the robotic lawnmower will automatically spend less time on the lawn. The robotic lawnmower will however not operate longer than the time that is set in the timer settings.