Thanks for the reply, contacted lawnboy, course no answers from them !!! check with dealer etc., My local dealers are decent people but selling new is more on their mind..I get asked why would I want to fool with those old things :-O.........Are you familar with the duraforce 6.5 at all ? I am replacing piston, old one had arrow with EX on it as well as the number 98-7044 V1, replacement only has arrow ?? Do you know then if up or down ? Sure wish there was shop around here with someone familar with the older ones :-( Thanks again Ken