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Not mine but my wife's , 60" zero turn with a steering wheel 12" bar tires in the rear 27 HP twin
she mows 25 acres now - hilly former farm fields in Virginia - looks like a park now 400 + hours with no real problems ( most were dealer created ) great tech's at the factory helped me out
I have been lurking in the background due to a slow dial up connection but no longer, 3G wheeee
JJ

58jeff said:

Not mine but my wife's , 60" zero turn with a steering wheel 12" bar tires in the rear 27 HP twin
she mows 25 acres now - hilly former farm fields in Virginia - looks like a park now 400 + hours with no real problems ( most were dealer created ) great tech's at the factory helped me out
I have been lurking in the background due to a slow dial up connection but no longer, 3G wheeee
JJ

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Yes, I do have a "Gizmo"...not worth a darn for mowing but a wonderful pet...honest, that IS his name...:laughing:

58jeff said:

... in the background due to a slow dial up connection but no longer, 3G wheeee
JJ

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Hey 58jeff... good to have you here...
now use that 3G up and post more including some pics of your mower... :smile:KennyV

I've never heard of the brand but it's a very clever name. Please post a photo... and welcome.

58jeff said:

Not mine but my wife's , 60" zero turn with a steering wheel 12" bar tires in the rear 27 HP twin
she mows 25 acres now - hilly former farm fields in Virginia - looks like a park now 400 + hours with no real problems ( most were dealer created ) great tech's at the factory helped me out
I have been lurking in the background due to a slow dial up connection but no longer, 3G wheeee
JJ

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are they still in business?

Welcome aboard 58jeff


Hope to hear a lot more from you,there is a lot going on here so welcome aboard again. I know where you are coming from with your slow dial-up been down that road to,i think its just part of rural living and we love it. later

welcome jj,lets see this Gizmow.Know what you mean about dialup.That's a lot of acreage to mow.Does she do it for fun or as a business? russ

neet midmount ztr with regular dual hydrostatic drive integrated with steerable (not caster) front wheels
been on the market earlier than resent cub cadet ztt and tankS -like systems
site Gizmow Formula
[video]http://www.gizmow.com/video1.htm[/video]

Gizmow pros: better stability and traction (if on regular ztr one wheel got in mud and lost traction, mower would spin around it like tank without one track (unless someone will keep nose of mower (and caster wheels) pointed in direction of travel; with integrated steering you point front wheels like on car or regular, not ztr, mower but with wider angle (180 degree), which allows zero turn.

Gizmow cons: more complex, heavy, slow (only 10mph vs 12-18mph of industry leading MFGs); more weight on front; on tight spots you have to spin steering wheel a lot back an force, while on regular ztrs - only slightly move levers; reliability concerns; maintenance; cost (price)

I looked over a Gizmow ZTR at a lawn maintence trade show once, neat looking machine with a steering wheel and all.. but I have not yet seen anyone in area running a Gizmow. I am sure thoses who dislike levers will enjoy the Gizmow with the steering wheel.

Anyone run one of those Cub Cadet ZTRs with the steering wheel? How did you like them.

Last year I thought about getting one of these, because I have a pond, and I'm afraid to mow the slope of the dam with either my bush hog or my Cub Cadet SLT1554. I hate the Cadet, because even with that Great big engine, it's slow, and is bad about clogging with grass. I couldn't find anyone locally who had a Gizmow, so I decided to stick with the Cadet for the summer. Well, yesterday, I did my first cutting of the year. I had to clean out the deck a half dozen times. Then the belt finally came off again. So I'm fed up again, and back looking for a new mower. The nearest Gizmow dealer is 50 miles away, and he doesn't keep them in stock.

I sure wish someone with experience using a Gizmow would post a review. It looks like just what I need, but it's a lot of money to spend on something sight unseen.

I went to the Gizmow dealer today. He happened to have an old 52" in for repair, but does not have any new machines in stock. He also said he can get only the 61" version. I'm beginning to wonder if these machines are even still being made. Does anyone know for sure?

My other option is a Cub Cadet Z force S 60" residential or commercial version. After reading some reviews on those machines, I guess I am a little less negative than I was based on my SLT1554 experience. I'll be back at the Cub Cadet dealer tomorrow to pick up my SLT1554, so I may test drive their Z Force S models again.

FarmerCharlie, my experience with an SLT-1554 wasn't great either, but despite that I went ahead and bought a Cub Cadet Commercial Z-Force S 60 a couple of weeks ago. It's the one with the black deck, Kohler Command, and ZT-3100 hydros. Fortunately it doesn't remind me of the SLT-1554 in any way except for the color.

I've only run it twice on my 2.5 acres so far to chop up some leaves left from the fall, but I'm completely impressed. I couldn't buy a regular ZTR because I have ditches that are forever muddy at the bottom, however I ran that Z-Force down them laterally with the tires just an inch from disaster at a pretty quick pace. There's an very secure feeling much like a lawn tractor, but it felt less likely to tip due to the track width and non-pivoting front axle so I didn't feel like I had to hang off the side like I did on my lawn tractor.

Seems well built and well assembled. I put a wrench or a screwdriver on every nut, screw, and bolt that I could get to and they're all secure. The belts are tracking true, the deck was adjusted perfectly even from side to side and there's an exact 1/4" front tilt. All the grease fittings were full.

The handling is excellent. The front axle does not pivot which is not as good for flotation, but as far as the ride goes it's kind of a wash. The front end does go up more if you hit a bump with one front wheel, but unlike a pivot axle it doesn't drop when one front wheel hits a dip. Of course it's more stable running across slopes because of the front corner support, whereas a pivoting axle is more like having just one wheel on the front, smack dab center. The steering is very light and easy compared to a lawn tractor and it performs zero turns beautifully. It only took me one or two quick turns to master the art of zero turning without leaving any damage, and that was on a soft and damp lawn.

Most surprising was the ride quality. My lawn is pretty bumpy and my SLT-1554 beat me to death, but I had no problem running full speed with this. The springs below the seat are huge and the seat is very well cushioned, and together they work very well.

Since it's so new to me I can't give you more than newbie impressions, but since you're looking at these I thought I'd go ahead and toss this out there. I really wanted a Hustler, but because of the ditches I couldn't do it. Now that I've had a chance to crawl all over this thing to examine it's design and engineering and have run it, I'm happy how this turned out and probably would have done the same for a flat lawn. It's nice to cruise around with one hand on the wheel. The 11 gauge deck is thinner than what you'll see on a Hustler, Skag, or Gravely, but I never had a problem with my old stamped deck because I don't mow lower than 3" and I don't set my rollers/scalp wheels so low that the deck bounces around. With good technique and care, I don't see why this deck won't hold up as long as the rest of the machine and since I have lawn soft spots and a drain field to mow, I can benefit from the lighter weight.

Thanks, jetblast, for the good info. Have you tried going up and down or across any substantial slopes? That is why I can't use a regular ZTR. I have a dam with about a 1-to-3 slope, and the thought of working that with my tractor/bush hog or a regular ZTR scares me to death. I guess the benefits of the Cadet are that it is lighter weight, and I have a dealer pretty close. The Gizmow looks more substantially made, but I worry about service and parts availability. It is also a lot heavier. Once I make a decision, I'll post whatever info I have.
Charles

No sweat, glad to help. I have a couple of inclines that beat the drive system on my SLT-1554 when approached head on (couldn't keep drive belts from slipping and shredding) but the Z-Force scooted up like they were nothing. I'm a big guy so hopefully it'll stand the test of time. As far as working slopes sideways, it's definitely more stable than the SLT-1554 was. I don't know what the actual angle of my ditch banks are but it was enough to make me hang off the side of the tractor and sometimes it would slide sideways a bit and tear the turf. No problem with the Z-Force in the same problem areas so far. One of the advantages of the commercial Cub over the residential version is having wider turf tires on the front and bigger diameter tires on the rear. That should help. If there are any riders at this price point that can handle slopes better, I don't know what they would be. The Gizmow is a beautiful beast for sure, but it's more mower than I needed for my 50 hours per year of use and priced accordingly. The parts availability issues do favor the Cub as well. I blew a spindle on my SLT-1554 and was able to buy a new one off of Ebay for $60, and I had it in two days. I'm sure Cub is going to sell boatloads of these things so hopefully the same will hold true.

Apologies to 58jeff for the thread hijack.

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Thanks, jetblast, for the good info. Have you tried going up and down or across any substantial slopes? That is why I can't use a regular ZTR. I have a dam with about a 1-to-3 slope, and the thought of working that with my tractor/bush hog or a regular ZTR scares me to death. I guess the benefits of the Cadet are that it is lighter weight, and I have a dealer pretty close. The Gizmow looks more substantially made, but I worry about service and parts availability. It is also a lot heavier. Once I make a decision, I'll post whatever info I have.
Charles

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When I picked up my SLT1554 today, I did look at the Cadet Z-Force S 60. It was the residential model, and it had a 26HP Kawasaki engine instead of the Kohler listed on the WEB site. It rode pretty nice--at least compared to my SLT1554. But it did not have cruise control, and the foot pedal was stiff enough that it would be a problem for me. The dealer did not seem familiar with the commercial model, although he did have a Tank in stock.

I think I'm back to the Gizmow. I called the factory yesterday. I don't know if the man I spoke with was Jeff Huncilman, but he did seem pretty knowledgeable. He said they were not making them right now because of the economy downturn. But I did find a dealer who says he can still get one. Normally I would not buy something that has been discontinued, but as best I can tell most of the Gizmow parts (except for the steering/hydraulic couplers) are mostly off-the-shelf standard parts. Unless someone can give me a good reason not to do it, I think I'm going to go ahead and try to get one. If I do, I'll post the results.

I ordered a new Gizmow last week and picked it up today. Here she is:


This afternoon, in a couple of hours I managed to cut the approximately 4 acres surrounding the pond and my house. I had planted grass around my new pond last year and installed about 15 PVC irrigation pipes radiating out from the pond. Cutting around the pipes makes for lots of turning. The Gizmow made this a lot faster than with my old Cub Cadet SLT-1554. I was a little surprised that it really does do a zero turn. When I reached the end of a pipe, I easily turned 180 degrees to cut along the other side. The mower is very fast, but when you make a sharp turn, it slows down just enough to feel comfortable with the turn. And the electric deck lift makes it easy to raise it a little while cutting parallel to a pipe, with the edge of the deck sticking slightly over the pipe. The one thing I did not like was that it stops VERY quickly when the cruise control disengages; it feels about like it feels when you run into a low stump with the deck. And sometimes it did disengage for no apparent reason--almost throwing me into the steering wheel.

So far I haven't worked up the nerve to try the back slope of the dam. But I did cut both sides of a ditch that runs in front of the house. As advertised, it held steady while mowing across the slope, which is about 10 degrees. It did not want to turn up the slope, but it never felt unstable.

I sure wonder why this brand was not successful. I have never used another traditional ZTR to compare with it, but I feel sure the Gizmow would compare favorably.

Charlie

Charlie .. that's a good looking machine ... Just curious... when turning sharp is it pivoting on the inside rear tire or is it actually reversing the wheel on the inside of the turn?
Heavy looking deck also... :smile:KennyV

Congratulations, FarmerCharlie. That's one serious piece of metal. Love the paint, it reminds me of the Kawasaki Racing Green of my reckless youth.

While I was researching my own recent mower deal, your machine was on my short list but the only dealer in Ohio is 200 miles from me. A shame, because the Gizmow specs out on paper like a the $13,000 - $15,000 Cub Cadet Tank S, but is currently available at a price closer to the lighter Cub Commercial Z-Force S that I bought. I think you pulled off a major score there. Why Gizmow, as a company, ran into such difficulties is puzzling, but I suppose only God and the accountants will ever know for sure. New technology during an economic free-fall is a dicey proposition, but either way, seems a good bet that this 4-wheel steering idea is the future of ZTRs as there are enough of us out there who have steep slopes and ditches to deal with, and the only sit-down remedy in the $4000-$9000 range used to be a lawn tractor. I love a good lawn tractor but no matter how good they are, they won't blow your hair back on the straightaways and get you back to the house before your beer gets warm. All the speed and maneuverability advantages of a ZTR, with all of the slope stability of a lawn tractor. What's not to like?

Please let us know how you do on the steep banks of your pond when you get to them. One thing I wondered about is the 13" x 5" slicks the Gizmow runs on the front. There's a good compensation with the agricultural treads on the back, but if your front end slides around or your uphill wheel tears the grass while traversing slopes, it appears that your front forks are wide enough to accommodate 13" x 6.5" tires with some meaty tread on them. I certainly get the idea that you're dealing with some major inclines, so that may be a cheap and easy adjustment just in case.

Spring is here, happy mowing.:smile:

By the way, I just put one of these on my mower's steering wheel and your Gizmow wants one too!

KennyV said:

Just curious... when turning sharp is it pivoting on the inside rear tire or is it actually reversing the wheel on the inside of the turn?
Heavy looking deck also... :smile:KennyV

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I assumed it was reversing on hard turns, because I did not notice it tearing up the turf when I did 180 degree turns at the ends of the irrigation pipe. But to be sure I just took it out to the driveway to check. The inside wheel does indeed turn backwards when I turn the front wheels to 180 degrees. It spins around like a top. That's in forward only. I think the zero turn hydraulics are disabled in reverse.

I did another test a few minutes ago. Normally in the fall I use my mower with a DR Lawn Vacuum to get up the leaves. But that has never worked on pine straw with my SLT-1554. The Cub would just not suck up the pine needles effectively; it didn't do all that great a job even with leaves. I haven't yet hooked the Gizmow to the vacuum, but when I went over some pine straw, it came flying out the chute like gang busters; I'm pretty confident the Gizmow will work well with the vacuum if I can find a Gizmow grass catcher chute to adapt to the vacuum.

Jetblast said:

Congratulations, FarmerCharlie. That's one serious piece of metal. Love the paint, it reminds me of the Kawasaki Racing Green of my reckless youth.

While I was researching my own recent mower deal, your machine was on my short list but the only dealer in Ohio is 200 miles from me. A shame, because the Gizmow specs out on paper like a the $13,000 - $15,000 Cub Cadet Tank S, but is currently available at a price closer to the lighter Cub Commercial Z-Force S that I bought.

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My Cub dealer is about 20 miles away, and the Gizmow dealer is about 50 miles. The Cub dealer did not have the commercial model you bought. Just the residential model and the Tank. And the Tank was a lot more expensive than the Gizmow. I will miss the Cub dealer. He is an old-timer who goes all the way back to the IH days, and I enjoyed bantering with him. I did notice quite a difference between the Cub residential model and the Tanks. I wonder if your commercial version and the tanks are made by MTD like my SLT-1554 was.

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Please let us know how you do on the steep banks of your pond when you get to them. One thing I wondered about is the 13" x 5" slicks the Gizmow runs on the front. There's a good compensation with the agricultural treads on the back, but if your front end slides around or your uphill wheel tears the grass while traversing slopes, it appears that your front forks are wide enough to accommodate 13" x 6.5" tires with some meaty tread on them. I certainly get the idea that you're dealing with some major inclines, so that may be a cheap and easy adjustment just in case.

Spring is here, happy mowing.:smile:

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Still have not braced the steep banks. I had thought about swapping out to turf tires, but I haven't seen any major damage to the grass by the tires I have. Guess I'll wait a while on that.

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Please let us know how you do on the steep banks of your pond when you get to them.

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I finally worked up the nerve today to take on the back slope of the pond. Here is what it looked like.

The uncut part in the background is the steepest part, which I didn't cut. The technique I used was to mow straight down the slope, then make a wide circle to the end of the dam, then back across the dam to make another pass going down the slope again. I never felt any instability or loss of control at all, but I was still a little too chicken to try the steepest area, which is probably more than 30 degrees.

Thanks for the followup. My Cub is doing great on the slopes as well even though they're a little wet and slippery right now. I'm definitely sold on this whole ZTR w/steering wheel idea. I surprised at how much time I've saving over the old lawn tractor, and of course the "fun to drive" factor is at never-before-seen levels.

The part in your picture with the grass still on it doesn't look quite as steep as what I've got, but it's hard to tell from a photo. You're smart for easing into it and using your instincts. If you were able to cut that with your old SLT-1554, I'd tend to think you'd be able to do as well or better on it with your Gizmow.

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Thanks for the followup. My Cub is doing great on the slopes as well even though they're a little wet and slippery right now.

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I think the commercial model Cub you have would work just as well as the Gizmo. But I didn't like the residential model, and did not want to spend the big bucks for the Tank. Does yours have cruise control? That was a pretty big deal for me, because the pedals were pretty stiff on the model I tried.
And you're right about the "fun" factor. I can go so fast now that I may be looking around the neighborhood for other grass to cut.

I may work up the nerve later to try the steeper section. I never would have even considered trying to cut the dam with my old SLT-1554; the only time it has ever been cut was when a neighbor (a professional lawn care guy) did it for me.

There's no cruise control but I never used it on my old Cub except to test it out once. My lawn requires ever changing speeds so I never thought about it. The pedal feel is the same on mine as the residential version I tried, but to me it's just right. If it were too light it would be harder to modulate speed control in between the stops and if it were heavier it would get tiresome. I think they got it right, but the pedal feel wouldn't be hard to change by modding or swapping springs if the need arose.

Did you find a way to keep your cruise control from disengaging? Seems there'd have to be an easy fix for that.

Jetblast said:

There's no cruise control but I never used it on my old Cub except to test it out once. My lawn requires ever changing speeds so I never thought about it. The pedal feel is the same on mine as the residential version I tried, but to me it's just right.

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Your feet must not be 70 years old.

Did you find a way to keep your cruise control from disengaging? Seems there'd have to be an easy fix for that.

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Not yet, but the mechanism is pretty simple, and I think I can probably adjust it. I have been using it without cruise control, and it's not all that bad. Maybe my 70 year-old feet are getting stronger.

Update. Re: Anyone else have a Gizmow ?

After a season with the Gizmow, I am still satisfied. I think I mentioned earlier that I used my old mowers with a DR lawn vacuum but that it tended to clog a lot with the Cadet. So far that has not been a problem with the Gizmow. I guess that's probably because the Gizmow blades throw the grass a lot faster into the vacuum intake, so the DR vacuum can suck it up easier. If the grass is not too long, I don't have to use the vacuum. The clippings just seem to disappear.

But about every fourth mowing I do use the vacuum. My field still has irrigation pipes on the surface, which means I have to make lots of sharp turns around the pipes. Since the mower will not make sharp turns with the vacuum attached, I usually first just mow the area clockwise without the vacuum attached. This gradually throws the clippings towards the center of the field. My old mower was not powerful enough to do this, but the Gizmo does it just fine.

Then I attach the vacuum and go over just the center of the field with the accumulated clippings. Here is the mower with the DR vacuum attached. Notice the accumulated clippings to the right.
https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~branch/images/FarmEquipment/mowers/IMG_5506_800w.jpg
Here is a view showing the rows I have already covered along with those I have not yet vacuumed.
https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~branch/images/FarmEquipment/mowers/IMG_5503_800w.jpg

And here is a view from the driver's seat. Notice how thick the clippings are, and how clean it looks on the row I have just finished to the left.
https://www5.vetmed.auburn.edu/~branch/images/FarmEquipment/mowers/IMG_5504_800w.jpg

I just wish I could get back all those hours I have spent over the years on my two previous mowers.

I use one on a farm with 386 acers, we mow arround the ponds and buildings works great but the parts are getting hard to find.

I guess the Gizmow is finally really dead. The WEB site was still active until recently, but it's gone now.
Too bad. I think it is a really great machine. I wish someone with some knowledge would post a blurb on the history and what went wrong.

Sorry life gets in the way sometimes building a house teaching beekeeping & making & selling Queen bees eats any extra time I have
Gizmoe was made by Hinsesman MFG in Indiana has put production on hold so it is an orphan( I heard rumers that they are building the Cub Tank ) still a stong machine been bulletproof with the exception of dealer & user created problems
Mower Deck does plug when cutting 8" tall wet field grass but what doesn't 27hp kohler pro is sure a gas hog & wish it was a diesel but does get with the program on hills we mow some 45 degree slopes with no problems we have a charging problem now but that was from a tee shirt getting sucked thru the cooling fan ( wife likes to sit on a shirt )
Electric deck is nice works good
I just hope it stays together as parts will be hard to get
JJ

Well, after attempting to order some parts, my dealer and distributor just confirmed that my Gizmow is officially an orphan, as the company is supposedly bankrupt. This isn't fun!!

Does anyone know of any parts stashes available? I need to replace/rebuild the steering shaft, and possibly one of the main control cables. A good fabricator can probably rebuild the shaft, but finding the correct cable has me worried.

This has been a rugged machine that has done everything asked of it, but I wouldn't touch one now!

Control cables are not a problem...
Just need to know length, what diameter and what fixture is needed on the ends...
If you have any industrial suppliers in your area, they can make you any type control cable. :smile:KennyV

Thanks KennyV. I'll be searching for/visiting industrial suppliers.

Hello,

I just placed a new question on this forum.

Can you please help me out with some pictures from the 12 V mowdeck lift actuator?

My mower is missing the lift actuator. I can't see where it belongs.....

Maybe you can also inform me with the part number of this adjuster.

Thanks in advance,

Arjan Wild, The Netherlands.....

Arjan Wild said:

Hello,

I just placed a new question on this forum.
Can you please help me out with some pictures from the 12 V mowdeck lift actuator?
My mower is missing the lift actuator. I can't see where it belongs.....
Maybe you can also inform me with the part number of this adjuster.
Thanks in advance,
Arjan Wild, The Netherlands.....

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I will try to look later this afternoon to see if I can get a picture. I also have my service and parts manuals, if that would be of use to you.
I still love this beast. I have had it about eight years, and I have never had to have it repaired--other than belts and a $1.00 link for the broken steering chain. I wish they would start making them again.

As for ordering the part, that may be a problem. Most of the engine and hydraulic parts are the same for many of the commercial mowers, but the deck may be specific to the Gizmow. I believe the models marketed in Europe were different from the U.S. versions, but the deck parts may be the same.
Charles

Arjan Wild said:

Hello,
My mower is missing the lift actuator. I can't see where it belongs.....
Maybe you can also inform me with the part number of this adjuster.
Arjan Wild, The Netherlands.....

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I found the actuator in my parts manual. It's Part Number H18126 (LIFT ACTUATOR).
I think I have the image attached.
I'll also try to get an actual image if I can find it on the mower. You probably won't find the part listed anywhere, but the Gizmow manufacturer had previously built lawn mower components for some of the other ZTR commercial mowers like Great Dane and Scagg I believe, so the part could be the same as one of those.
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Arjan Wild said:

Hello,
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My mower is missing the lift actuator. I can't see where it belongs.....
Arjan Wild, The Netherlands.....

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I made a video of the actuator working here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lFzsQT9Kuw
It's hard to get a view of the actuator from this angle, but maybe someone could tell us if it looks the same as an actuator from a Great Dane, Scagg, or other mowers.

I just recently traded for a gizmow 61 anyone on here have turning issues and a possible solution in wondering if tires with tread will help or possibly adding weight to front end will help thanks

FarmerCharlie said:

I made a video of the actuator working here:

It's hard to get a view of the actuator from this angle, but maybe someone could tell us if it looks the same as an actuator from a Great Dane, Scagg, or other mowers.

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You still have a gizmow?

Hankins 78 said:

You still have a gizmow?

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I still have it and still think it's the best mower ever made. But it is over 10 years old now, and little things do go wrong. Things like switches, connectors, etc. It has still never had to have any repairs that I can't handle myself. This has been pretty impressive--especially considering that I tend to abuse my equipment and often postpone routine maintenance. They should start making them again.

I traded a 4 year old Cub Cadet for a 61 inch Gizmow. I've got 3 acres and cut my mowing time in 1/2. I'm looking for a deck belt. I've been told a Toro 114-5858 will work, but it's 2" to long. Any other suggestions?

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CyrilO said:

I traded a 4 year old Cub Cadet for a 61 inch Gizmow. I've got 3 acres and cut my mowing time in 1/2. I'm looking for a deck belt. I've been told a Toro 114-5858 will work, but it's 2" to long. Any other suggestions?

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I think the deck belt I use is a Dayco BP191, which I got from Autozone. If they don't have it, send me a message, and I'll look.
Charlie
And let me know if you ever decide to sell it.

All of the after market parts suppliers have a "belts by length listing" in their on line cataloges
Find the length of the Toro 114-5858 belt, take 2 off it

FarmerCharlie said:

I think the deck belt I use is a Dayco BP191, which I got from Autozone. If they don't have it, send me a message, and I'll look.
Charlie
And let me know if you ever decide to sell it.

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I ordered a BESTORQ B195 Rubber V-Belt, Wrapped, Black, 198" Length x 0.66" Width x 0.44" Height
from amazon. Real heavy duty. Fits well. If it was 1/2" shorter it would be perfect.