I just wanted to let anybody know that if you look at the toro company and look up news there is all the info that got released on the 23rd of october including a rear discharge ztr and of some other stuff but was suprised to see they are comming out with a new (5 models to choose from) 21 commercial mowers. They are definetely different then what they have made for over the last 20 + years. If anybody is at the GIE EXPO and actually see these, let me know or take photos. This photo below is what i found on toros news site.