Help with carburetor please

[you tube mechanic]

I am working on a neighbors Briggs 18.5 hp OHV engine on her Craftsman DLT 3000 riding mower. It has a 698445 carburetor on it and it is "flooding out" dumping way too much fuel in the carb and is actually spitting out air filter intake and if cranked long enough will spill out exhaust. It fouls out the spark plugs so I need to remove the plug clean and let dry and it will fire up and run good for 30 seconds, then sputter for about 30 seconds and dies. Then it wont start and spits fuel everywhere again. I pulled off fuel bowl to check float, it seemed fine and shot it with some carb cleaner and reinstalled. I am a loss. I will try to attach pics of the carb and a few questions. (name the part please) what is black adjuster screw on top (pic 198) and what does it do? Does the throttle stop adjuster screw (pic 200) need to be turned in some? Is the choke lever (pic 199) supposed to have a spring on it where there is an empty hole (pointing at it with pencil in pic)? What is the electrical plug for at the bottom of the fuel bowl? While I had the fuel bowl off I inspected the nozzle and it seemed fine. No issue with getting fuel as it is getting too much fuel at this time. More fuel spitting out of intake when throttle lever is in choke/full throttle when starting. Spits fuel at all throttle positions but worse in full/choke. Thanks for your time.

Maintenance I performed last weekend on the mower. Changed battery, fuel filter, oil and filter and spark plug. Recommended to her running marine fuel (ethanol free fuel) in it to make it run smoother as I was advised by a neighbor (he swears by ethanol free in everything small engine) I only run it in my trimmers. None of the "tune up" maintenance should have caused this problem. It was running well last weekend when I returned mower to her. First time she tried to use it 2 days ago. Flooding issue.

I never could figure out how to resize pics to work in text so here is photo album link inside this forum with my pics numbered 197-208.

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Briggs Carburetor 698445

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• May 2, 2020
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Flooding engine

 

[bertsmobile1]

open your photos in any picture app then resize them to 12" x 10" at 72 dpi then save a version.A lot of apps do not resize the file they just change the display size and leave the actual file the same size.
Also save the new files as JPG .

Now as to your mower, take the float bowl off and the fuel line at the pump or filter and try blowing through it .With the float hanging free air should pass through easy but it should close off before you have raised the float to horizontal.

If the carb has a rubber seat, shooting carb cleaner will have destroyed the seat which will nor need to be replaced.
When changine fuel lines , little bits of rubber can come adrift & get suck in the float needle preventing it from sealing fully against the seat.

 

[you tube mechanic]

Thanks bertsmobile1. Pictures attached (but they are tiny when resized to 72 dpi). I will try what you suggested later today as it is 3am right now. Not sure what seat you are talking about. I am an amature small engine mechanic. I had removed the bowl as pictured in image 5. There was a rubber o-ring seal that I removed and set aside. I had the all plastic float assembly in my hand when I shot it with cleaner. Then dropped it back in the bowl and re-set o-ring seal and re-installed. Float moved freely but I will do as suggested. What is the electric signal wire coming from the bottom of the bowl? Not a computer or anything on a mower to get the signal to say change fuel flow or something so I couldn't figure what that would be for. I will shoot some move pics later with the float bowl off. Thanks again for all your help.

 

[Mkala]

Hello, yes quite tiny pics. I think you can go the size (pixel hight by piwxel width) as long as your don't exceed 1MB of size. But as your reduce the dimensions file size reduce too; reducing the size to something like 1600 x something and using jpg with 90-95 of quality result in good quality and forum accepted pictures most of the time.

 

[bertsmobile1]

Yes those pictures definately did not work.
The thing at the bottom is a shut off solenoid.
The rubber ram is spring loaded to ram up the bum of the main jet to stop fuel entering the engine when you turn the key off.
When you turn the key on it should retract. to allow fuel to flow through the main jet.

When the float does not fully close, fuel fills up the float bowl then flows through the air vent which now days is not allowed to be connected to a drain tube so it dribbles inside the carb totally defeating the reason for having it inside the carb.

 

[you tube mechanic]

Ok there are some duplicate pics now but oh well. Still trying to figure out what the black plastic adjuster is in pic 198 but I moved on. I have followed the steps from bertsmobile1 and air flowed freely while float was hanging, moved float horizontal and it blocked the air so I think float is working properly. I did notice the solenoid is stuck in the open (retracted position) see pic 202 and per you tube I saw someone checking it with a 9v battery to actuate the solenoid. Mine does not move at all with 9v. I also plugged it back into the mower connector and grounded the housing and with switch on, it did not move, kicked the engine over quickly and solenoid did not move. At least it has failed in the open position it looks like. Not sure if this is causing my flooding problem as I am not sure when the solenoid is supposed to operate.

 

[you tube mechanic]

I am stopping here for now to see if someone can suggest what else i can do before removing the carb. as I don't have new seals/gaskets on hand if something should tear. I am tempted to just buy a new replacement carb if I can find one for a decent price. I have seen therm run from $25 to $125 on the net. Not sure why such a price range but I did notice some where kind of universal, advertised to replace 25 different oem part numbers. Please help if you can. Any and all help welcome and appreciated.

 

[you tube mechanic]

I just ordered a brand new carburetor for $28 all in. I will just replace it. It comes with a new shutoff solenoid as well. Thanks to all of you who helped me through this. I will be posting again soon on the other mower the same neighbor has. It is a Craftsman self propelled.

 

[bertsmobile1]

The black plastic thingie is a limiting cap over the idle jet needle.
It is there to prevent idios who have no idea fiddleing with it
You should have about 3/4 turn adjustment
Out = richer
In = leaner.
If you summons up the courage to remove the carburettor you will see the needle poking into the carb throat.
If you spent 1/4 of the time you have wasted on Amazon reading the cleaning proceedures for these carbs or downloading the IPL from the Briggs web page then you would have fixed it by now.
Try reading the proceedures shown here then all of your questions would have been answered days ago.
There is nothing to break when removing the carb but it is prudent to replace the $ 2.00 gasket & the $ 1.50 O ring .
There iis a small screw in the air filter housing that you must remove before undoing the 2 x 3/8" nuts that hold the air filter housing on .
After that the studs have a 1/4" head so they can be removed.
From memory you need a deep socket to get onto them

 

[you tube mechanic]

Thank your bertsmobile1 for the constructive criticism. All feedback is welcome. That link with the procedures is exactly what I needed a few days ago and still need so a great big thank you. I did not have said items in my possession "There is nothing to break when removing the carb but it is prudent to replace the $ 2.00 gasket & the $ 1.50 O ring . " so I was hesitant about removing carb at the time of my post. I saw procedures online how to remove the carb but they did not mention replacing gaskets but I figured there had to be something. I may tangle with the original carb this weekend. I don't feel like my "time is wasted" asking for help and trying to do it myself rather than paying to rent a trailer to get the mower to a small engine mech and then paying $30 an hour to fix a 15 yr old mower but fair enough it is your feedback. I am still not entirely sure what has caused the issue in the first place. I did see your post about fuel filter changes can cause debris to enter carb it just seemed odd that a basic cleaning and tune up caused the thing not to run and dump copius amounts of fuel into the carb. and all the other checks suggested with the fuel bowl float passed ops check. Again thanks for the link. I will use it in the future.