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Things to look for when buying a used mower

#1

lawn mower fanatic

lawn mower fanatic

I saw this on another forum and thought everyone should see it.

"Buying used outdoor power equipment can be a great way to save money but it can also open a can of worms and end up costing if repairs are needed. How do you know if a used lawn mower is going to be a good deal? That's what one of our forum members asked when he wrote no the Gopher Lawn Care Business Forum "I have found a deal on a 2007 ExMark LZ25KC604 60″ with 25 HP Kohler with 240 Hours. I have been offered this for $3000.00. It appears to be in great shape.
This is my first zero turn and I have been looking at Scags and Exmarks. What should I look for before I decide? I think this is a good deal. Any comments or suggestions appreciated."
Thankfully another one of our forum members is a outdoor power equipment dealer and he knows his stuff. This is what Eli shared with us and it will help all of us when we are looking at used outdoor power equipment. He responded "First, are you buying this from a Dealer or from an individual? If from a dealer, will they give you any warranty? Since you have been looking at new mowers of the same brand, how much would a similar one cost you new? Assuming it has no warranty and passes the test as follows below, I would pay no more than about 60-70% of new price similar piece of equipment. Do you know if $3000 is the lowest price you can get on it? Have you tried to get a lower price?"

Here are some questions I am sure you already know the answers to, but for everyone's benefit I will post the questions anyway.

1. If you are buying from an individual, why are they selling it?
2. Was it used to mow their own yard only? or was it used for commercial use (to mow more than their own lawn).
3. Can you verify their answer to #2 without asking them directly or even indicating you are questioning their answer (no longer need this big of a mower? or decided to get out of the lawn care business? or?. Just think, does their answer make sense???
4. Do they have maintenance records? Will they provide these records to you to preview before the purchase? Will they provide these records to you with the purchase?
5. Can they tell you who serviced the equipment when it was serviced? Can you verify this?
6. If buying from a dealer, have they serviced the mower including sharpen the blades, check the belts, change spark plugs, Air Filter, Fuel Filter, and oil?
7. Have they ever serviced this mower before buying it?
8. Did they sell the mower new?
9. Why did the original owners sell it? (Again, think about their answer to see if it makes sense or not. Typically power equipment dealers are considerably more honest than car dealers but there are a few here and there that may still lie to you?)
10. Do they know if the owners were the caring type?
11. How does this mower compare in price to other mowers the Dealer is selling?
12. Will the dealer show you or tell you what the blue book value is for the mower?
13. Does the mower have an hour meter on it so you know it only has 240 hours on it or is this a "guesstimation"? (This applies to both Dealers and individuals)

Either way, look for these signs of wear, abuse or lack of maintenance:

A. What is the over all appearance of the mower (look for chipped paint, bent parts, etc.)?
B. Do the tires have any signs of being plugged?
C. Do the tires appear to have lots of wear?
D. Remove the dipstick to see what the oil looks like (look for black oil, is there enough oil, etc)? If you don't know what black oil looks like, pull the oil dipstick out of your car when it reaches 3000 miles after an oil change. Or, take a mechanic friend with you to look at the mower.
E. Check for loose parts (loose or missing bolts). This is a good indication this mower has been taken apart in the past or that the owner has been abusive with the mower/engine.
F. **Caution, it is recommended that you wear gloves while doing this part of the check up. Also remove the Ignition Key to prevent anyone from trying to start it while you are doing this.** Reach under the mower deck and grab a blade. Now try to move it up and down, checking for deck bearing wear. Also check for blade sharpness, dings to the blade's cutting edge, bent blades, and large deposits of grass underneath the deck."

(Warning: read this before you buy a used mower. | Lawn Care Business Marketing Tips - GopherHaul Blog)


#2

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Mad Mackie

Good stuff, but not many perspective buyers will do the entire list and sometimes sellers won't let you do this list.
Had a friend that was hot for an Onan powered Ingersoll 4016 from a private party. Big dollar package, seller agreed to let me check it out and do some diagnostic testing on the Onan. Did a leakdown test on the engine, found the Onan to have some serious blowby. Seller got angry with me and told both of us to leave his property NOW!!! As we were leaving I noticed an oil soaked Onan air filter in the trash that was out for pickup. Saved my friend a lot of money!!
Several years later I ended up with this machine in my shop for repower to a Briggs Vanguard 18 for the same guy that had told me to leave his property!!! Go figure!!!!
Mad Mackie in CT


#3

Ric

Ric

I saw this on another forum and thought everyone should see it.

"Buying used outdoor power equipment can be a great way to save money but it can also open a can of worms and end up costing if repairs are needed. How do you know if a used lawn mower is going to be a good deal? That's what one of our forum members asked when he wrote no the Gopher Lawn Care Business Forum "I have found a deal on a 2007 ExMark LZ25KC604 60″ with 25 HP Kohler with 240 Hours. I have been offered this for $3000.00. It appears to be in great shape.
This is my first zero turn and I have been looking at Scags and Exmarks. What should I look for before I decide? I think this is a good deal. Any comments or suggestions appreciated."
Thankfully another one of our forum members is a outdoor power equipment dealer and he knows his stuff. This is what Eli shared with us and it will help all of us when we are looking at used outdoor power equipment. He responded "First, are you buying this from a Dealer or from an individual? If from a dealer, will they give you any warranty? Since you have been looking at new mowers of the same brand, how much would a similar one cost you new? Assuming it has no warranty and passes the test as follows below, I would pay no more than about 60-70% of new price similar piece of equipment. Do you know if $3000 is the lowest price you can get on it? Have you tried to get a lower price?"

Here are some questions I am sure you already know the answers to, but for everyone's benefit I will post the questions anyway.

1. If you are buying from an individual, why are they selling it?
2. Was it used to mow their own yard only? or was it used for commercial use (to mow more than their own lawn).
3. Can you verify their answer to #2 without asking them directly or even indicating you are questioning their answer (no longer need this big of a mower? or decided to get out of the lawn care business? or?. Just think, does their answer make sense???
4. Do they have maintenance records? Will they provide these records to you to preview before the purchase? Will they provide these records to you with the purchase?
5. Can they tell you who serviced the equipment when it was serviced? Can you verify this?
6. If buying from a dealer, have they serviced the mower including sharpen the blades, check the belts, change spark plugs, Air Filter, Fuel Filter, and oil?
7. Have they ever serviced this mower before buying it?
8. Did they sell the mower new?
9. Why did the original owners sell it? (Again, think about their answer to see if it makes sense or not. Typically power equipment dealers are considerably more honest than car dealers but there are a few here and there that may still lie to you?)
10. Do they know if the owners were the caring type?
11. How does this mower compare in price to other mowers the Dealer is selling?
12. Will the dealer show you or tell you what the blue book value is for the mower?
13. Does the mower have an hour meter on it so you know it only has 240 hours on it or is this a "guesstimation"? (This applies to both Dealers and individuals)

Either way, look for these signs of wear, abuse or lack of maintenance:

A. What is the over all appearance of the mower (look for chipped paint, bent parts, etc.)?
B. Do the tires have any signs of being plugged?
C. Do the tires appear to have lots of wear?
D. Remove the dipstick to see what the oil looks like (look for black oil, is there enough oil, etc)? If you don't know what black oil looks like, pull the oil dipstick out of your car when it reaches 3000 miles after an oil change. Or, take a mechanic friend with you to look at the mower.
E. Check for loose parts (loose or missing bolts). This is a good indication this mower has been taken apart in the past or that the owner has been abusive with the mower/engine.
F. **Caution, it is recommended that you wear gloves while doing this part of the check up. Also remove the Ignition Key to prevent anyone from trying to start it while you are doing this.** Reach under the mower deck and grab a blade. Now try to move it up and down, checking for deck bearing wear. Also check for blade sharpness, dings to the blade's cutting edge, bent blades, and large deposits of grass underneath the deck."

(Warning: read this before you buy a used mower. | Lawn Care Business Marketing Tips - GopherHaul Blog)



Great check list. The thing to remember though, is even with doing or using that or your list to buy a used mower or new mower for that fact is there are no guarantees either way.


#4

Bill Martin

Bill Martin

Loose spindles and banged up deck. Mowers shouldn't look like a wrecked NASCAR! Check hill power for transmission issues


#5

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sjessen

If it is a local mower it is worth trying to find out where the owner has service/repair work done. Oftentimes, a dealer has good insight into how the equipment has been treated i.e, did they fix things as soon as they broke or did they just try to keep the mower running with the least amount of maintenance possible.


#6

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alinawatson342

Your idea is great...


#7

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Kevin999

SAN ANTONIO - Consumer Reports tested more than 100 lawn mowers from Home Depot, Lowe’s, and other retailers. Its testers have pushed them more than 50 miles to help you find the best mower for your yard. They rate each mower on how well it can cut in different modes -- mulching, bagging and side discharging.


#8

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Darryl G

Consumer Reports is not what it used to be. Their business practices are terrible and their reviews questionable as far as being impartial and unbiased. You're better off asking your next door neighbor's brother-in-law!


#9

willys55

willys55

You left out 14)Where to put it so the wife no see it, because you have 5 or 6 already


#10

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Elizabeth Rosen

so my mower was a right choice


#11

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slomo

Consumer Reports is not what it used to be. Their business practices are terrible and their reviews questionable as far as being impartial and unbiased. You're better off asking your next door neighbor's brother-in-law!
EXACTLY!!

alomo


#12

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slomo

People do not maintain mowers UNLESS there is a running issue. First thing gets replaced is the, wait for it, spark plug. People come on here and the ol' spark plug makes it to the top of their list.

Look at the yard of the seller. Could you find a new 1985 Chevy IROC Z if you cut the grass or does it look like "normal" humans live there? I would pass on any mower that was from an acreage meaning anything over an acre. You know they've been out in the DMZ hitting chains, barb wire fencing, stumps and so on.

Most will have carb issues and valve adjustments needed. Gotta' love those. (y)

slomo


#13

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Mogan

Hi people, i need a recommendation from the list of this products i found on this resource <deleted link> becuase i want to purchase one but don't really know how to decide a good one because i am new to this device, though i have been reading extensively about mowers for the past one month to ensure i don't miss out of the best deal. I'll be glad if anyone can suggest which one to choose.


#14

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TheMachineries

Great Information. Now i get to know that my decision was right.


#15

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bertsmobile1

Great Information. Now i get to know that my decision was right.
Really ?
The pretend review site listed in Morgans thread was nothing more than an advertisement for Ammozone.
There was no useful information that is not available from the product brouchures which actually had more facts that the pretend review site.
SO I gather you are yet another Ammo Zone stooge if in fact your are a real person and not just a web bot or an Asian syndicate that gets paid to post & raise the google profile of trash we would be better off not wasting electrons on in the first place /


#16

andy505

andy505

Great thanks for sharing


#17

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Richard Milhous

Slomo, I'm staggered that you didn't say to look for crap buildup on the cooling fins...


#18

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hlw49

Or you could just by from me. I go through mine and fix everything it needs. Not had but one back and that was because of ignition modules. One of those Kohlers were you have to replace them both as a kit.


#19

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slomo

Slomo, I'm staggered that you didn't say to look for crap buildup on the cooling fins...
Check the fins on all new to you used mowers LOL. Great tip Richard!!


#20

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slomo

Usually used mowers have some running issue. Most are mowed into the ground till they won't run anymore.

On every new to me used mower, I look EVERYTHING over. Valves are out of spec. Fins and block are filthy. Carb usually fouled up. Carb linkages been "played" with. 3 oil dumps till she has normal oil color again. Usually never mke any money selling. Blades are shall we saw worn out. And that was being gentle. Have similar balance of a teeter-totter. Or installed upside down LOL.

I've never picked up a good running used mower that was up to my standard. Everything on it is suspect........


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