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OK you guys, you talked me into it!

I disassembled the transaxle (Original P/N 618-04381A) and pulled off the top half of the housing. Man oh man is it ever a mess! The crack in the right hand axel end of the top housing is pretty bad and will require a talented welder to repair it. (That leaves me out! All I own is a little flux core wire welder and I can't weld aluminum with it..) The bushing for the outboard end of the right hand axle was destroyed! Holes worn right through it! However, without the benefit of further cleaning, the axel itself looks pretty good. The grease in the lower half of the transaxle housing looks like muck, it's going to take gallons of degreaser and lots of work to clean that mess up and I have read on the forum that finding the correct grease is difficult at best. Hopefully cleaning things won't open up another can of worms.. I'll clean the upper half of the housing first, and then see if I can find someone to weld it. Once that's done, I'll order a new outer bushing and grease (someone said it's a 'clay' based grease and someone else mentioned bentonite (which I recognize as a type of clay) - sounds odd for grease, but what do I know??? At this point d*mn little!

So far so good, but it all hinges of whether of not I can find a good welder. I'll let you know how it's going.

Roger B

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Roger,
Bentonite grease is a clay based grease used in the transaxles. Stuff is super nasty and sticks to everything, I think it is almost as bad as never-seize for getting all over me if I'm not super careful.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tecumseh-Be...nt-Gear-Box-Lube-Peerless-Trans-/360553330996

Tom

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All clays are slippery because they align themselves in to flat plates with very scant bonding between plates.
All greases consists of a solid which has the same type of flat molecule, grain or crystal suspended in a liquid.
It is the liquid medium that gives the grease its fluid properties.
This liquid can be water as in graphite greases or spirits for the "dry greases", bees wax for chain grease, right up to tar.
It is the lubricant particles that give the grease its name,
Bentonite for very high loads, graphite, Lithium Sulfide / Lithium flourobate for Lithium greases
Zinc Steriate etc etc etc.

By the same boat all the anti corrosion properties come from the suspension medium as do the rubber preserving and just about everything else.
All the particles do is slip and avoid being crushed

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Well, I've now been 'schooled' in the properties of various types of grease.. What would have been really useful is if one of you guys would drop by and clean this greasy mess out of the lower half of the tranny for me! I'd REALLY appreciate that!

Ah Ha! I just figured out how to post pictures to this forum.. So here's a couple just to wet your whistle...

Note the condition of the bushing I'm holding! The seal fell apart in my fingers. There is a hole worn right through what's left of the bushing. The crack can also be seen in the upper housing and the wear the shaft has done since the bushing no longer supported it properly.

The second picture is the upper case cleaned up, showing the crack I've got to get repaired. I'm going on the hunt for a good aluminum welder today.. I'll keep you posted.

Roger

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Roger, See if you can find a marine machine shop ( don't know if you are near big water ,like ocean). These guys are used to problems like shafts, repairing damage and creating bushings. Suggest you take in the shaft at the same time.

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Well I would have offered but by the looks of the second photo you have already done it, and quite well by the looks of it.

The gears can be removed and boiled in a strong solution of cloths washing detergent, the powdered kinds are best and the hotter the better.
just about every head shop will have a parts washer ( dishwashers on steroids ) and most will happily give your bits a scrub for a consideration ( case of beer )
Motor wreckers who sell restored parts will also have the same kit and if the parts have been wipped out will also give them a tub.
Alloy cases respond to a dip in the dishwasher when SWMBO is safely at her mothers place and the tablets with the little ball in the center work best.
If mum lives too far away a large pot on the BBQ will at least allow you to sleep in your own bed.:laughing:

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moto-man,

I live on an island (with a bridge) that 'floats' in the Atlantic Ocean.. I realize that compared to the Ocean on your side of the country, it is a mere mill pond, but we do have the occasional marine shop to deal with boating requirements.

Here is an example of one - which just happens to be a short distance (15 minutes) from me, either by automobile or boat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_Iron_Works

I dropped off the cracked upper case at a local welders yesterday and hope to get it back by tomorrow. (Friday). Today I plan to clean out the lower housing and gearing.. (It's going to get nasty!)
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berts-man,

I appreciate your offer of assistance, but feel the cost of getting you here from the underside of the earth might put a dent in my restoration projects budget!

Unfortunately, my mother-in-law has passed and my other half and I, as 'second-time-arounders', stick together like glue.. Even worse, we don't even own a dishwasher! I am faced with hours of scrubbing that muck out of the lower half of the transaxle and gearing by hand. (The piece you saw was only the top half, an easy job by comparison!) I did buy a gallon of degreaser and I can always fall back to good old gasoline - ('er petrol), which works wonders, especially if you are fearless - (or maybe foolish!) I tend towards a little of each. I'd approach an engine rebuilder (with a case of Fosters - if I could find any) but prefer to DIM - (That's sort of like DIY, only the acronym when you say "myself" makes it all the more apropos!

I'll attach a few pictures of my progress, assuming I don't blow myself into oblivion!

Roger

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Sorry about the double post (#'s 7 & 8) - I tried to edit #7 and ended up double posting.. Then I tried to delete #7, but can't figure out how... If anybody can delete #7 or tell me how, I'd appreciate it...

Thanks,

Roger

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The crap and grime cleaned out of the lower half of the transaxle and the gearing better than I had hoped for. I used some "Purple Power" degreaser, but in all honesty gasoline (petrol - for our down-under friends) did the bulk of the work.

The damage caused by the worn out right hand bushing, (shown on your left in these pictures) is evident by the discoloration. The grease on that side was dried out and had to be physically removed, rather than washed away.

There is some obvious scoring of the axel on that side, but I don't see that causing any trouble for the light duty I plan on using this tractor for.

Hopefully, I'll get the upper half of the case back soon and will be able to determine if a bushing and seal will still work on the damaged end. If everything looks good then I will order a new bushing, seal, grease and a couple of springs that are tired and put the thing back together.

Roger

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I use ep00 grease which is 2 grades thinner than the ep1 recommended.
This dose leak a little out of the seals but it stays fluid for a lot longer thus avoiding your problem.
Get some from tractor supplies where you can get 5lb tins for the same price as a 1 lb tube at an auto store.

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Bert-man,

Now I am learning something about grease... I was wondering though, where the shaft on that side is a little worn (scratched up, really) wouldn't I be better off with the heavier (thicker) grease? If I did buy 5 pounds, what the blazes am I to do with the remaining 3-1/2 to 4 pounds?

When you say "tractor supply houses" you more than likely mean 'real' tractor supplies, not the 'Tractor Supply' store that we have here on this side of the pond..

I happen to have several old containers of wheel bearing grease, but I don't suppose that would be of any use?

Thanks..

Roger

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A tractor shop that sells tractors to farmers.
In particular an old tractor shop who sells parts for old tractors many of which use grease filled gearboxes 20 lbs of it for some.
I may have goofed the can size converting from metric to imperial.
The tubes down here are 450 to 500 gramms ( ~ 1 lb ) then there is the small tin 2lb and a tin twice that size 5lb ? and then the 20lb tin which is what I buy.

The lubricant is the powder mixed in with the fluid.
So if it goes dry & hard and all the grease ends up sitting on the outer edges of the case in big clags as was the case with 1/2 your box it won't do much lubing.
The semi fluid 00 grease will drop back down to the bottom and dribble onto everything that needs lubing on its way down.
000 grease is about 150wt gearbox oil 00 grease is about 200wt
I use 000 grease in the heads of trimmers that have seals and 00 on the ones that don't.
Or I could buy 0 grease in 2 oz tubes for $ 11 a tube.
the new grease tins are all plastic so when you have finished put in in the back of the shed , sell it on Craigs list or give it away.
In all cases you are way ahead on price.

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Mobile Bert,

I very much appreciate your advice. The correct grease (by P/N) costs $20 for 19 oz.( Around 1-1/5 pounds.) Evidently that is the recommended amount to refill the transaxle. Grease has a tendency to remain stuck in globs inside of cases where it does no good at all. I shouldn't think that such a slow moving machine would develop enough heat in it's gear box to melt the grease so that it would flow of its own accord. As you (and I) noted, there were globs of grease that had never been utilized by the gearing in the transaxle. Some of the fault must be laid at the feet of who ever installed it. I expect a lack of lubrication was the cause for the bushing that failed. Grease had been pressed into the 'gutters' in the casting that ran alongside the axle, but not in the axle channel itself on that side. The grease that was outside the axle channel was never available for lubricating the bushing. I will try to do a better job with whatever grease I end up using.

You will have to forgive my somewhat distorted sense of humor. The question regarding what to do with four pounds of unused grease was intended to be 'tongue-in-cheek'.. Sorry.

Roger

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My sense of humour is probably slightly more perverse but I seem to always offend so gave up on the funnies quite a while back.
You use NPI ratings for grease viscosity over there and my recommendation is going one grade lower than the recommended.
Most greases do not melt at elevated temperatures and then the solvent evaporates and they form what I usually call tur?s in the bottom of the box.
Low melt greases are suspended in a wax which melts but the problem with that is when you have finished all the grease runs to the bottom of the box and forms a solid mass that takes a suprising amount of force to break free.
I tried it on an old Peerless 700 box that was clapped out,
new cases were $ 350 down here and then add another $ 50 for bushes & seals so we filled it with chain grease.
This is graphite in a modified bees wax.
Worked a teat till he tried to use it on a cold day and it broke the drive chain.
Mind you it was on its 3rd life, but the owner was a pensioner who had bought the mower new in 1962 and was happily retired till the GFC wiped him out.
So we were trying to do things on the real cheap.

He still has he box full of chain grease but leaves the mower outside if he needs to use it in winter & i found an old length of chain to replace the broken one.

Now getting back to your box , I would replace the grease with a slightly lower viscosity one.
The worst thing that can happen is it will leak a bit past the seals but in reality it is only a lawnmower not a space shuttle.

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bertsmobile1 said:

My sense of humour is probably slightly more perverse but I seem to always offend so gave up on the funnies quite a while back.
You use NPI ratings for grease viscosity over there and my recommendation is going one grade lower than the recommended.
Most greases do not melt at elevated temperatures and then the solvent evaporates and they form what I usually call tur?s in the bottom of the box.
Low melt greases are suspended in a wax which melts but the problem with that is when you have finished all the grease runs to the bottom of the box and forms a solid mass that takes a suprising amount of force to break free.
I tried it on an old Peerless 700 box that was clapped out,
new cases were $ 350 down here and then add another $ 50 for bushes & seals so we filled it with chain grease.
This is graphite in a modified bees wax.
Worked a teat till he tried to use it on a cold day and it broke the drive chain.
Mind you it was on its 3rd life, but the owner was a pensioner who had bought the mower new in 1962 and was happily retired till the GFC wiped him out.
So we were trying to do things on the real cheap.

He still has he box full of chain grease but leaves the mower outside if he needs to use it in winter & i found an old length of chain to replace the broken one.

Now getting back to your box , I would replace the grease with a slightly lower viscosity one.
The worst thing that can happen is it will leak a bit past the seals but in reality it is only a lawnmower not a space shuttle.

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Funny that you say that. In my life I met someone who used to work on a plane for our armed forces. It was the SR-71 Blackhawk. They said that they where a mess to work on. On the ground when they where started before take off they leaked every fluid in the plane. When they got to speed in the air everything got hot and expanded and sealed the leaks. Just interesting how things are engineered to work.

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B..Mobile-One,

I think I need a translator to fully understand all that you've told me, but I got the gist of it.. I wasn't sure if "worked a teat" contained a misspelling, or is an interesting colloquialism among sheep milkers.

Living in the N.E. corner of the US, I was trying to envision, first - why anyone would be operating a lawn mower in winter (cold weather - it snows here in cold weather, normally - lots! Lawn mowers aren't of much use to us then, we break out the plows and snow blowers.) and second - how friggin' cold was it to solidify the grease enough to break a chain drive? (Please convert degrees C to F, I'm not much good at that.)

Just as a point of interest, I don't think a "clapped out box" means the same thing 'Down Under' as it might 'Up Over'.. but then again, maybe it does! It formulates a truly horrible visual impression.

I am sorry to hear you too have been ostracized for a bent sense of humor.. I was once banned from facebook and was asked to leave a cast iron cookware forum (don't ask!) for puns I thought were funny as h#ll... I have been trying very hard to maintain the correct decorum here amongst fellow lawn tractor enthusiasts. I've already learned a great deal and would hate to lose contact with such a knowledgeable and agreeable group.

I almost made it to Australia back in 1970, but the submarine I was serving on blew an engine (one of four, a 1,600 HP, 12 cylinder, 24 piston, Fairbanks Morse) in Kobe, Japan and that pretty much put the kibosh on any side trips. I've always regretted missing out on seeing your part of the world.

Roger

GREASE

OK Berts Mobile,

You've got me doing grease research. Would you be kind enough to review the following types of grease and tell me which ones are appropriate for use in my 'soon to be rebuilt' transaxle? From what I read I would chose EP-004 or EP-023 as they sound as though they are specifically designed for that purpose.

https://www.mobil.com/English-US/Grease/pds/GLXXMobilux-EP-Series

Then I found this listing of manufacturers of ep-0 grease:

• Manufacturer Lubricant
• Amoco Oil Co. - Rykon Grease #0 EP
• BP Oil Co.- Energrease LS-EP0
• Cheron U.S.A., Inc. -Dura-Lith EP0
• Citgo Petrol-Premium Lithium Grease EP0
• Conoco Inc. -EP Conolith Grease #0
• Exxon Company U.S.A. Lidok EP0
• Kendall Refining Co.-Lithium Grease L-406
• Mobil Oil Corp. -Mobilux EP0
• Petro-Canada-Multipurpose Lotemp EPGrease
• Shell Oil Co. -Alvania EP Grease RO
• Shell Canada LTD -Alvania Grease EPW
• Sun Oil Co. -Sun Prestige 740 EP
• Texaco Lubricants-Multifak EP0
• Unocal 76 (East & West) Unoba EP0

Then I got onto several different tractor forums, (REAL tractors, not lawn tractors) and everybody is talking about John Deere "corn head grease".. Now I've heard of corn hole grease (a.k.a. "boy butter") but never heard of corn head grease... So if you've never heard of it either, check this out: http://www.greenpartstore.com/John-Deere-Special-Purpose-Corn-Head-Gun-Grease-AN102562.html

At three bucks and change for a tube, that looks like the way to go to me!

It's a great big slippery world out there isn't it?

Roger

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Roger B said:

B..Mobile-One,

I think I need a translator to fully understand all that you've told me, but I got the gist of it.. I wasn't sure if "worked a teat" contained a misspelling, or is an interesting colloquialism among sheep milkers.

Living in the N.E. corner of the US, I was trying to envision, first - why anyone would be operating a lawn mower in winter (cold weather - it snows here in cold weather, normally - lots! Lawn mowers aren't of much use to us then, we break out the plows and snow blowers.) and second - how friggin' cold was it to solidify the grease enough to break a chain drive? (Please convert degrees C to F, I'm not much good at that.)

Just as a point of interest, I don't think a "clapped out box" means the same thing 'Down Under' as it might 'Up Over'.. but then again, maybe it does! It formulates a truly horrible visual impression.

I am sorry to hear you too have been ostracized for a bent sense of humor.. I was once banned from facebook and was asked to leave a cast iron cookware forum (don't ask!) for puns I thought were funny as h#ll... I have been trying very hard to maintain the correct decorum here amongst fellow lawn tractor enthusiasts. I've already learned a great deal and would hate to lose contact with such a knowledgeable and agreeable group.

I almost made it to Australia back in 1970, but the submarine I was serving on blew an engine (one of four, a 1,600 HP, 12 cylinder, 24 piston, Fairbanks Morse) in Kobe, Japan and that pretty much put the kibosh on any side trips. I've always regretted missing out on seeing your part of the world.

Roger

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Not so much ostracized, just not appreciated and apparently offended a soul or two.
I have a hide thicker than a wombat ( makes elephant hide look like tissue paper ) and can not be bothered looking for reasons to be offended which annoys people trying to offend / abuse me no end.
RRRRR we might have had a wee slip of the fingers on that one.
Clapped out = well past worn out
Grass grows here all year round, climate is reasonably close to California and varies around the same with distance from the coast.
A cold winters day is 10 deg C ( about 18 above freezing in the scale of the mathamatically challenged poor scholar ) in the afternoon but the 2am temperature goes a few degrees below freezing.
We get just enough cold to set fruit on the cherry trees about 3 in every 5 years.
It was an old chain and the grease is not solid like ice, just rally thick like glue so dogs don't quite engage or dissengage properly and the grease between the theeth almost hydraulic locks.
The load is a lot more than most would imagine.

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Ep 0 is not a type of grease, it is a grade of grease.
Exactly the same as SEA 30 is not a type of oil.
Similarly I can get most greases in 3 or four Ep grades.
EP in oils means something totally different ( Extreme pressure ).
The USA uses NPI numbers ( national Petrolium Institute ) AFAIK.
So if the tractor boys say corn grease is bees knees in grease filled boxes , go with the flow.

There are around a dozen or so "fillers" in greases, there names will be familiar, Molly, Graphite, Lithium, Zinc, Teflon .
These are the bits that do the heavy lifting that bridge the space between the teeth and get squashed to prevent the metal to metal contact.
All the other properties come from the suspension medium.
Water inclusion / disperson. corrosion resistance, operating temperature, fluidity .
In many cases , the different thicknesses is nothing more than the amount of filler added.
The more filler the thicker the grease.
So any gearbox grease that is safe for use with copper based bushes will be fine.
SUlphur is one of the fillers used where very high contact loads happen but sulphur is very agressive towards brass & bronze .

Funny enough, thick grease is cheaper than thin grease ( probably a volume thing ) and for a mower company grease leaking past the seals onto the showroom floor is a bigger problem than it going hard in 8 years & killing the box

GREASE

Mobile-One,

You got me, I said "type" of grease but knew I meant "grade". When one hasn't spent their lifetime immersed in various lubricants, but rather simply grabbed a container of 10W-30, Singer Sewing machine oil, 3-in-1, 90W gear lube, K-Y or whatever the normal day-to-day lubrication requirement was, they don't develop a lexicon of the proper terminology to discuss this subject intelligently. The learning curve is fairly steep and I'm a slow climber... but I'm getting there.

I want to thank you for sharing your expertise, of not only lubricants but of the interesting flora and fauna (Wombats) and climatic conditions that exist in mysterious Australia. In this part of the world we grow pine trees (and other non-deciduous trees), potatoes (although Idaho does that far better than us) apples - again other locales like NY and WA far excel us, and rocks.. We grow lots of rocks! As far as mean animals are concerned, we have black bears, but by and large they don't bother anyone. I would say that our 'Fisher' is probably the meanest critter we have and they wouldn't normally bother people. They are members of the weasel family and display all the traits of that group in plentitude. Tangling with one would be a mistake, but would also be a rare occurrence.

I have still not heard a word from my welder, so rebuilding the transaxle is on hold until I get my hands on that part. Were you familiar with either Mobil's EP-004 or EP-023? The description of their properties sounded exactly like what you have recommended.

Roger

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The tranny I did in an MTD a couple of months ago called for the MTD grease which I don't remember the part number of but is about the same consistency of 00 snapper grease but is about $17 per 8 ounces.

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Ilengine,

The MTD P/N for their transaxle grease is 737-0148 and is listed at $20.06/19 oz.

We are exploring alternative (less expensive) lubricants and if green is your color then John Deere Corn Head Grease is your lube.

Roger

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Far be it for me to lay any claim to know better than the manufacturers, but I have never been happy with the distribution of grease inside any box I have pulled down.
To my thinking, the grease has always been too thick and most seems to be rolled into logs reminisent to things we older blokes see in the toilet bowl.
Age and particularly water always seem to have broken down the grease.
This is why I use lighter greases than recommended.
I play with a lot of vintage motorcycles and lot of them used grease in their boxes prior to the invention of the spring loaded oil seal.
All of them use either 0 or 00 grease.
The only caveat I would put in was to check the grease is safe for brass & bronze bushes.
An no I am not familiar with either of those mobil products.
I get my grease from the local tractor parts shop in 20 lb ( 5 gal ) drums and have done that for many years even before I was a mower mechanic.
Mainly because I am cheap.
I still have about 1/2 the drum of patrolium jelly I bought when I was 20 and it was the life savers who put me onto that.
Back then the boat crews applied it liberally to their speedos, oars, thighs & arms.
They were paying 4 times as much for a 5 gal drum as I was paying for a 8 oz tube so it was a no brainer, although I did get some funny comments from various girlfrends when they saw it on the shelf.

Still Greasy...

Bert man,

I can relate with parsimony, folks from Maine have a reputation for being frugal and I do my best to maintain that image.

You must use the Vaseline for more than slicking up your Speedo and waterproofing your oars.. I didn't think it even qualified as a grease.. I can imagine that half-a-drum of the stuff would raise the eyebrows of a few ladies, but a fellow has to be ready, like a boy scout... Right? (I checked and found 'Scouts Australia", just to be sure they use the same motto.)

I'm going to be away for a week (hunting) so I won't be posting anything after tomorrow morning.

I will do my do-diligence and insure whatever grease I end up with will not attack brass and related metals..

So, until I return, mind the wombats and water the wallabies..

Roger

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Adding a bit of levity to this thread and with the mention of Vaseline (petroleum jelly) in large amounts reminded me of a story I read several years ago related by a crew member of a "tall ship" that had sailed into the Caribbean and called on the Port of Key West, Florida. The ship was a wooden ship and the crew was in search of anti-chaffing material for the mast/boom connections. The crew having never been to Key West before was unaware of the 'uniqueness' of the locals and were meet with looks of awe when they started asking people for large pieces of leather and 5 gallon buckets of Vaseline. Seems some folks in Key West used leather and Vaseline for a far different use then as anti-chaffing material. ;-)
Tom

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Roger B said:

Bert man,

I can relate with parsimony, folks from Maine have a reputation for being frugal and I do my best to maintain that image.

You must use the Vaseline for more than slicking up your Speedo and waterproofing your oars.. I didn't think it even qualified as a grease.. I can imagine that half-a-drum of the stuff would raise the eyebrows of a few ladies, but a fellow has to be ready, like a boy scout... Right? (I checked and found 'Scouts Australia", just to be sure they use the same motto.)

I'm going to be away for a week (hunting) so I won't be posting anything after tomorrow morning.

I will do my do-diligence and insure whatever grease I end up with will not attack brass and related metals..

So, until I return, mind the wombats and water the wallabies..

Roger

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Mainly used for inserting oil seals.
It is soluiable in oil so when the engine gets hot it dissolves away.
I mix it with graphite powder to make low melt graphite grease which I use a lot on plastic bushes.
And before I cottoned on to rubber grease I use it a lot on O rings to stop them rolling during assembly .
I have even been know to put some on my lips now & then.

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Tom and Bert-Man,

Well, I've returned from an unsuccessful week of hunting. Had fun, had some snow (always good for tracking) enjoyed family and friends, couldn't find any deer..

Tom, at one point in my life, I lived in the Florida Keys (Marathon) and after going into the submarine service got stationed in Key West for a couple years. Having made the rounds of various bars (Capt'n Tony's comes to mind - this was back in the 60's) I'd have to politely disagree with you.... I believe the local inhabitants did indeed use leather and Vaseline as anti 'chaffing' materials! . . . However, that's just a guess on my part, of course.. I do know you have to "worm, serve and parcel" yer riggin' matey, to avoid chaffin' ..

Bert-Man,

I have always used silicone grease whenever working with 'O'-rings, with the understanding that oil based lubricants would cause them to break down over time. We used a lot of it in electrical work (as a di-electric) and I grew very fond of it's lubricating properties. It's great for the new pop-in-and-out plastic 'hatches' they use in boats now-a-days. makes them easier to remove or replace and maintains flexibility of the 'O'-rings as well as making them waterproof, (well, only 'water resistant' - in todays litigious world).

Roger

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Roger,
Good story about Key West, and Thank you for your service.
Tom

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Pumper54 said:

Roger,
Thank you for your service.
Tom

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Tom,

Thank you for your recognition, AND for your service as a First Responder!

Roger

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bertsmobile1 said:

I mix it with graphite powder to make low melt graphite grease which I use a lot on plastic bushes.

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B-Mobil-Man,

You had me there for a moment.. I read that as 'plastic brushes' and was truly puzzled, then I re-read it and realized my mistake, it's "plastic bushes", but that didn't really help.. You mean like plastic 'bushings'? A device that it pressed into a hole in some material, that is designed to protect some other material passing through the hole??... (Like wire through a steel bulkhead?)

Roger

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Roger,
I am pretty sure you and Bert are talking about the same thing bushes, bushings, it is the different in the Queens English and American English. Seems a lot of lower end mowers used plastic bushings in wheels and other parts. I use Never-Seize on those parts if there is no grease fitting.
Tom

WELDED - (at last!!)

Now we are getting somewhere - - (I think!!) . . . . I can now return this thread to it's proper subject - transaxle repair!

After getting back from hunting, I went over to the welders yesterday and picked up the repaired upper transaxle case. The weld looks solid enough (first picture) but his effort at cleaning up the inside of the casting was a little crude. (Second picture.) However as that part of the case had been severely worn by the axle after the original bushing wore out, his grinding work is actually above the portion that would normally support the new bushing. In the third picture, the view is along the axle and into the repaired end of the case. The amount of wear at that end of the case is evident. However, the existing shoulder on the lower half of the case as well as what remains at the edges of the upper half "should" properly retain the new bushing and grease seal. I have been considering using a little 3m 5200 marine sealant in the top half of the case to insure the bearing and seal are securely held in place. If you have never used 3M 5200, I'd have a hard time explaining just how well this sealant holds things! As the bushing and seal aren't supposed to be able to turn anyway, I can't see where a little 5200 judiciously applied wouldn't be good insurance against foreign materials getting into that exposed end of the seal / bushing and eventually into the case itself. Any thoughts anyone?

Roger

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

An ideal approach in this repair would be crack repair, buildup of weld for bore, new bore for bushing material , alignment of housing for center end- to- end, final bushing bore /seal boring. Perhaps that service is unavailable to you or the cost was prohibitive. Maybe you can use bluing around the bushing and seal area to see how the shaft is running. A blue marker pen should work. Hoping for the best here.:thumbsup:

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

As soon as you put weight on that the axle is going to move up into the void. This repair is not good enough. You will destroy what is left of the upper half of the case and maybe the axle also. You could use JB Weld or something simular to fill it in then drill it or grind it out to the proper size.

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

motorman & BlazNT,

I lay in bed this morning rethinking my idea of using 3m 5200 and had already decided that it wouldn't be an adequate repair. Now I see you guys agree.

motorman is correct in that the welder I chose was not up to filling in the worn away portion of the upper case, because I asked him to fill in the outer 'lip', saying that I would work it down myself, using a series of small grinding burrs. He was concerned that he might blow the edge completely off. Also if it had been completely filled-in, machining the re-welded case would undoubtedly cost more than it would be worth as a new upper housing is only around $90.

As I never intend to use this machine for mowing, or other 'hard-work', and the project itself is on a strict budget, I want to be as cost effective as I can. However, this morning I had already had a change of mind and decided to try a repair using epoxy paste to fill in the worn area above the bushing. The bushing is actually supported better than it looks in the pictures, but I can appreciate the need for some durable filler to make up for the metal that was worn away. I use JB Weld for many jobs, but I have always used the two-part liquid type, this repair will require a paste that won't flow freely. I think if I wrap the bushing and seal in plastic wrap (keeping it very smooth) maybe spraying the wrap with a little silicone and then pressing it into a glob of paste in the worn out void, I can create a filler that will provide better support for the bushing. Should be interesting!

Roger

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

Roger B said:

motorman & BlazNT,

I lay in bed this morning rethinking my idea of using 3m 5200 and had already decided that it wouldn't be an adequate repair. Now I see you guys agree.

motorman is correct in that the welder I chose was not up to filling in the worn away portion of the upper case, because I asked him to fill in the outer 'lip', saying that I would work it down myself, using a series of small grinding burrs. He was concerned that he might blow the edge completely off. Also if it had been completely filled-in, machining the re-welded case would undoubtedly cost more than it would be worth as a new upper housing is only around $90.

As I never intend to use this machine for mowing, or other 'hard-work', and the project itself is on a strict budget, I want to be as cost effective as I can. However, this morning I had already had a change of mind and decided to try a repair using epoxy paste to fill in the worn area above the bushing. The bushing is actually supported better than it looks in the pictures, but I can appreciate the need for some durable filler to make up for the metal that was worn away. I use JB Weld for many jobs, but I have always used the two-part liquid type, this repair will require a paste that won't flow freely. I think if I wrap the bushing and seal in plastic wrap (keeping it very smooth) maybe spraying the wrap with a little silicone and then pressing it into a glob of paste in the worn out void, I can create a filler that will provide better support for the bushing. Should be interesting!

Roger

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Hey Roger,
might want to check this stuff out ... we used to use it in the Air Force , I personally think its better than JB weld but about the same principle .........http://www.devcon.com/products/products.cfm?brand=Devcon&cat=Metal Repair

click on the (products) at top of their page .....Boobala :thumbsup:

DEVCON!!!

BOOBA!!!

Good old Devcon! How could I forget about Devcon? They even make an aluminum repair paste.. That's the answer!

Maybe not as good as the duct tape we in the sub-service referred to as "E.B. Green" (E.B. stood for "Electric Boat" - - it was a.k.a. "Test Depth tape") which was often used to hold the old WWII subs I served on together.. but the Devcon will be far more usable in this particular project.. Thanks buddy, I'm on it..

Roge

PS. Where do the 'time stamps' come from for these postings? I was writing at 0620 this morning and the time stamp said 1120... WTH (heck) is with that?

DEVCON... . . . .

Oh bugger, it's $50/lb....

RB

Re: DEVCON... . . . .

Roger B said:

Oh bugger, it's $50/lb....

RB

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They might have it n smaller packaging in stores such as GRAINGER or ACE Hdwe. Ck on line for the product you want ...maybe even AMAZON ... ????

Yeah, that Devcon is amazing stuff, and they make ALL kinds of "fixit-stuff" :thumbsup:

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

Your time settings will be in "My Home" Set your time zone.

JB Weld

Booba,

JB Weld makes smaller quantity stick epoxies, including their "Steel Stick".. Sets in 5 minutes, cures in one-hour. I should be able to use a bushing wrapped in plastic wrap to form the paste into the worn place in the housing. Apply paste, insert protected bushing, quickly assemble, tighten a few bolts, let set a few minutes, loosen bolts, remove bushing, finish grind as needed... Done!

Sounds like the answer to me!

Roger

Time setting

BlazNT,

Thanks, it's done..

Roger

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

Fantastic. I just did not want you to destroy more than was already broken.:smile:

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

BlazNT - Chuck,

Me thinks we have had a miscommunication... When I said, "Thanks, it's done." - I was referring to changing my time zone as you instructed. . . . . However, I suspect you thought I meant I had repaired the worn part in the transaxle case.. At this point, I have not, however, I have decided on a course of action that I believe will effect a workable repair. I do appreciate your input and I will insure that worn area is filled in and solid before reassembling the case. Presently I am waiting for parts (bushings and grease seals), but plan on working on the repair while I wait.
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For those of you who have been following the GREASE portion of this thread, I have discovered that my local John Deere dealer does carry John Deer Corn Head Grease. The parts man there told me he only sells about two tubes a year, but that they get it in 30 tube cases, so he has plenty to sell. Their Corn Head Grease is rated as an EP-0 (or NLGI-0) grease and should work fine in that type of transaxle at a fraction of the cost.

Roger

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Yes I did not read the header.

So glade you got the time thing fixed and good luck with the repair.

"STEEL STICK" epoxy repair

Chuck et. al.,

Today I picked up some JB Weld "Steel Stick", a two part epoxy in a single stick that only requires to be kneaded by hand to mix properly. I cleaned the damaged area of the transaxle case, and wiped it with acetone, cut off a little of the epoxy stick and kneaded it to a uniform dark color. A small amount was applied to the damaged area and a bushing wrapped in plastic food wrap was pressed into it. By moving the bushing forward and back in the damaged area I was able to press the epoxy fully into the void where the axle had worn the aluminum away. I think the rough grinding the welder did, will help the epoxy stick. Then I inserted the 3/4" axle shaft through both the grease seal and the bushing and assembled the upper half of the casing to the lower half using two bolts to tighten it. As this epoxy sets up in five minutes I had to work quite quickly. When I released the bolts the epoxy has assumed the exact shape of all three pieces and I was able to carefully trim away any excess that came out around the shaft, leaving a perfect shoulder like what was originally there before the old bushing wore out and the axle wore the shoulder off. (Note previous pictures.)

Here is what the repair looks like:

Roger

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

That looks very nice. Just like I was thinking. You did a wonderful job.

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Looks like a "go for it" to me Roger, hope it works out .... if at first you don't succeed ... it's time to buy a boat, or a toaster or something ...( LOL ) ..:laughing: ..:laughing: ..:laughing:

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

BOO-Baby,

Already got a boat! Can we post them on here without getting chastised?

Roger

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

Roger,
Nice work on the repair. I didn't know you all had palm trees in Maine, things you learn everyday. ;-)

Tom

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

Pumper54 said:

Roger,
Nice work on the repair. I didn't know you all had palm trees in Maine, things you learn everyday. ;-)

Tom

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Yeah Tom, he did a helluva great job .... OH ...those palm trees ?? he ordered them from Amazon.com ....when he ordered the bridge to get to his island ....Roger has ingenuity & thinks ahead !!! .:laughing: ..:laughing: ..:cool2:

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OK you guys, get a grip, I tow the boat up and down the East coast from Maine to Florida every year. This year we also decided to stay in South Carolina for an extra month, (April), because when we got home April First in 2015 there was 4-1/2-feet of snow in front of my boat shed! (Note the date stamp on the picture.) So we decided to go home in May of 2016.. Of course Maine had the lowest amount of snow fall over the winter of 2015-16 ever recorded, but we really enjoyed the Beaufort, Port Royall area of SC.

Roger

Quickee-Trailer-Build

While waiting for my parts to arrive (patiently - Not!!) I decided to build a trailer for the Yardman to tow. I already had a couple 10" tires and rims I bought years ago and never used, so I dug around and found a scrap piece of 5/8" rod. It wasn't long enough to make a one-piece axle out of, so I sawed it in half and welded it to a length of square strut to extend it. A hole was drilled in each end for cotter pins and wal-la, I had an axle. I built a frame for the bed out of some 1-1/2" X 2-1/2" perforated right-angle steel I had left over from my business shelving. I bolted the corners and welded it where it lay on the axle, Then I found another length of square strut that would be just right for the tongue once I made a hitch connector for it. The tongue was also welded to the axle and bolted to the front frame cross member. A left over piece of 1/2" plywood made a good deck and that was bolted down as well.

I have to dig around in my scrap crap and see if I have some metal I can bend into a "U", drill for a pin and weld to the end of the tongue for a hitch connector. A simple pin will connect the trailer to the rear plate on the tractor.

I just checked the tracking on my bushing and grease seal.. It has arrived in York, PA from like, East Bohunk, NV or somewhere.. If I live long enough, maybe it will make it to Maine.. I don't suspect this snow will speed anything up any..

Roger

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Roger,
Trailer looking good. For the hitch assembly you might try just a piece of flat stock you can weld to the top of the tongue with hole for the hitch pin of bolt. Don't think you plan on hauling really heavy stuff with your mower so no real need for a heavy duty hitch.

Tom

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

Pumper54 said:

Roger,
Trailer looking good. For the hitch assembly you might try just a piece of flat stock you can weld to the top of the tongue with hole for the hitch pin of bolt. Don't think you plan on hauling really heavy stuff with your mower so no real need for a heavy duty hitch.

Tom

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It is a nice job, my wife happened to see the pics ..... so then she starts on me ! "How come you don't do things like him ?? you just lay around sleeping all the time !!! And I reply ....I was not sleeping, ... I was busy checkin my eye-lids for holes !! ( LOL ) ..:laughing: ..:laughing:

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

Boobala,
Gotta Love em cause we can't kill em. Just kidding Ladies we love you all.
Tom

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

Pumper54 said:

Ladies we love you all.
Tom

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Tom,

Obviously you've never been divorced!

Roger

Trailer Tongue

Tom,

I got all that Strut and Right Angle steel from a local electrical distributor that tore out the second floor of their warehouse which had been entirely built out of that stuff.. I hauled truck loads of it away. However that was decades ago and I have built dozens and dozens of various things with the stuff. This little garden cart (trailer) may be the last as I only have a single 6-foot stick of the 1-1/2" X 2-1/2" right angle stock left.. However, I dug around in my junk and found a fitting that is designed to connect two pieces of the square stock strut together. I am going to use that for my tongue connector, but I won't install it until I set the garden tractor back down on it's wheels and get a proper height measurement. I don't want the tongue to be to high or to low.

I also found a piece of flat stock that would work too. It all depends on the height of the hitch plate on the tractor and the level position of the trailer tongue.

Roger

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

Roger B said:

Tom,

Obviously you've never been divorced!

Roger

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Cheaper to keep her. ;-)

As for 'found' material I found a couple of bed frames being thrown out over the past year and picked them up at the curb. Nice steel angle and one even had a few castors attached. Using pieces of that steel to fab stuff up with. My welding sucks but I figure I can tack the stuff together and take it to a real welder to get it done right.
Tom

Tom

Welding

Tom,

What type of welder do you have? I bought an 'El Cheapo', flux core, wire welder from Northern Tool, (last time I checked, it looked like they don't sell their own brand anymore!) it came as a complete welding kit, with helmet, leather apron and gloves and some simple tools. I built a welding cart for it (out of some of the perforated right-angle steel) and wheels off a baby carriage that I snatched when I was at the dump... Oh, sorry the "transfer Station". The guys at our 'transfer station' are great and will even get into one of the huge concrete bins and get something out for you if you ask! Anyway, I've had the thing for a couple of years and although I don't weld a lot, I have gotten better and better at it. My last discovery was finding the wire drive mechanism wasn't tight enough. Tightening that improved the wire feed to the 'puddle' and improved my welds by about 50%. I haven't done any stick welding since I was in diving school back in 1963 and as that was done underwater, I never really learned much, except never to get between the 'stinger' and the ground clamp! I kept diving but quit welding!!

Fairly heavy items can be welded with one of those little wire welders.. I needed a longer tool rest for my wood lathe, so I made one out of two pieces of 5/8" rod that I salvaged from the H/D rear shocks of a 3/4-ton truck. Grinding the top of the short, upright support rod so the 11" long 'arm-rod' lay in a perfectly fitted groove and then beveling the edge of that groove, I was able to (as you said - "tack it") and then I made pass after pass until I had built up a good strong bead all the way around. I have had a lathe tool catch while supporting it at the outer ends of the rest and the weld has held, so I'm very happy with it. Being able to weld, even poorly, is a great ability to have, especially if you like to 'make' things! You can always get better at it.. As they say, "Practice makes perfect."

Roger

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

Roger B said:

Tom,

Obviously you've never been divorced!

Roger

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DIVORCE .......... The screwing YOU get .......... for the scr***** you GOT !!! ..:smiley_aafz: ..:mur:

Re: Welding

Roger B said:

Tom,

What type of welder do you have? I bought an 'El Cheapo', flux core, wire welder from Northern Tool, (last time I checked, it looked like they don't sell their own brand anymore!) it came as a complete welding kit, with helmet, leather apron and gloves and some simple tools. I built a welding cart for it (out of some of the perforated right-angle steel) and wheels off a baby carriage that I snatched when I was at the dump... Oh, sorry the "transfer Station". The guys at our 'transfer station' are great and will even get into one of the huge concrete bins and get something out for you if you ask! Anyway, I've had the thing for a couple of years and although I don't weld a lot, I have gotten better and better at it. My last discovery was finding the wire drive mechanism wasn't tight enough. Tightening that improved the wire feed to the 'puddle' and improved my welds by about 50%. I haven't done any stick welding since I was in diving school back in 1963 and as that was done underwater, I never really learned much, except never to get between the 'stinger' and the ground clamp! I kept diving but quit welding!!

Fairly heavy items can be welded with one of those little wire welders.. I needed a longer tool rest for my wood lathe, so I made one out of two pieces of 5/8" rod that I salvaged from the H/D rear shocks of a 3/4-ton truck. Grinding the top of the short, upright support rod so the 11" long 'arm-rod' lay in a perfectly fitted groove and then beveling the edge of that groove, I was able to (as you said - "tack it") and then I made pass after pass until I had built up a good strong bead all the way around. I have had a lathe tool catch while supporting it at the outer ends of the rest and the weld has held, so I'm very happy with it. Being able to weld, even poorly, is a great ability to have, especially if you like to 'make' things! You can always get better at it.. As they say, "Practice makes perfect."

Roger

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IF you are not a welder try gas welding.
It is a slow process so allows you to learn things like puddle control before you go full speed electric.
I bought a Dillion ( now called DHC - Dillion Henrob- Cobra ) 40 years ago and nearly every time some one has come over to get some welding done they have ended up buying one because it makes welding so easy.
Should have become an agent, would have made a fortune :mur:
The Tinman ( Google TMtechnology ) sells a unit copied from, or inspired by the Dillion which is looks good too.
One set up welds everything except titanium and being low pressure gas, cheap to run and capable of welding steel or alloy as thin as a beer can ( in better hands than mine ).
When I first saw the unit, old man Dillion came into the yard, grabbed 2 aluminium cans, cut them in 1/2 then welded them back together using a ring pull as filler rod. I was hooked.

Having become familiar with torch welding , I bought a TIG latter and find TIG a breeze to do but most of the time I use the torch.
We have a lot of alloy based Honda push mowers down here with holes because we also have a lot of gravel.
Owners are gob smacked when I pressure wash the crack / hole, fire up the torch and weld the deck with broken bits of old decks
The only thing I have not been able to do is weld up the Kohler Kracks in Courage singles, but I am getting better at it.

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Roger,
I think we both have the same set up, small 120 volt wire feed. I think I paid about $100.00 for it. Having never welded before I figure why spend the money on a better set up if I don't use it a lot.
My very first ever weld. Not really good but you can't break it by bending. I am pretty good with an angle grinder to clean stuff up


Tom

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Tom,

Not bad looking for your first weld! Yep, what you have sounds just like mine. I now realize the benefits of using gas to shield your 'puddle', but I wanted something inexpensive (to purchase) and that I could weld outside with when it was windy. Gas won't work under those conditions. Have you ever watched any of the multitude of hot-rod builder TV shows? I would like to spend a few months working with some of those guys! They can WELD!!

You don't happen to have a "Berts-Man-Down-Under" dictionary do you? I was doing real well with his last post until I got to this: "Kohler Kracks in Courage singles" I was totally lost at that point....

Then there was the "Dillion" thingy.. I have a Dillion: https://www.dillonprecision.com/rl-550b_8_1_23594.html Mine is an older RL-450 model, but you can't weld with it.. I've got to go look up whatever it is he's talking about...

Roger

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Roger,
I have a knack for figuring out accents as I have friends from all over the world. I think what Bert was referring to "Kohler Kracks in Courage singles" is that Kohler engines have a bad history of developing cracks. Also as he stated in one of his posts that he does this for fun and doesn't always use spell check so sometime his words look a bit funny. Besides he speaks and writes the Queens English or the OZ version of it.

Tom

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Tom,

Yes, I too can usually figure out what someone means so long as I'm fairly fluent in their language, but Aussie's do tend to bend the Queen's rules just a mite...

Geez, I sold a lot of Kohler Gen-Sets over my working lifetime and never heard of any of their engines developing a crack. Maybe running them on LP (much less B*A*N*G per gallon than gasoline) is easier on them. Then again maybe the owners contacted Kohler directly, but I doubt I'd have been that lucky... I used to sell Onan and Kohler, but Onan quit making their own smaller engines and as I didn't trust their new choice of engines, I quit selling them.

How'd you like Boo-la-Boo-la's divorce comment? You can always depend on him for cutting right to the chase! . . . LOL

Roger

PS. Lots of stuff we've ordered on line lately arrived yesterday, but not my MTD parts!! I ordered from eReplacementParts on 11/16! In their defense they said they shipped the same day, but I didn't realize they were going to use Juan Valdez and his three-legged-donkey for the delivery!

Re: Welding

bertsmobile1 said:

IF you are not a welder try gas welding.

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BERTMAN!!! Holy smokes! What a great welder!! I went on-line and found videos of the DHC-2000: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBWy3SPFGe4

That rig is amazing! Why doesn't everybody use one of those?

Thanks again! I learn something every time you comment on here! Your expertise is much appreciated....

Roger

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Glad you liked it.
The only thing they flog that I am not keen on is the cobolt blue lens for alloy. I found it too dark so I bought one of Kent's ( the Tin Man ) you beaut lenses and have never looked back https://www.tinmantech.com/products/safety-products/eye-protection/TM2000-high-accuracy-gas-welding-lens.php.
Now if you want to weld like a pro in a weekend, book in for one of Kent's workshop weekends.
I put a friend onto Kent a long while ago expecting him to buy some of the how to videos but he decided to book a holiday for the family and went to long workshop.
Back in OZ he started making Stainless Steel petrol tanks for motorcycles, tossed in his job and is now hand making body panels for the V8 supercar racers ( local production series ).

Back to the welding gear, it took nearly 10 years before I hooked up the cutting torch and I rarely used it , Took quite a while to get used to watching the cut & not the flame, now I have 2 torches, one set up for cutting, the other for welding.
I use old rusty fence wire as filler rod for most welds and on mower decks all I do is a quick wire brush to knock off the the caked on dirt & grass which stinks when it starts to bake.
For alloy most times ( when i am not showing off ) I use TIG rods but I have welded using broken pieces of old mower bases.
A local brand Victa did a 24" commercial push mower which has a cast base using what I think is a high zinc Aluminium alloy which I could never weld with a commercial filler rod but lumps of old deck works well.

Note , the demo bloke wore no gloves & neither do I, there is no slpatter , no acid flux to clean off , just some FeO ( mill scale ) which if oiled dosen't rust for ages.

Kohler Kracks is a design flaw with come of the Kohler castings on Courage singles where the top cover bolts vibrate looses then a crack forms in the crankcase from the exhaust cam all the way down the side of the barrel.
I can lay a bead on a Kohler case but have never been able to complete a weld on the crack good enough that I could charge a customer for.

you can get it TIGed but you have to strip it down to the short block, have it ultrasonically cleaned, welded then reassembled which comes out more expensive than replacing the engine.

If you follow the link to Kent's site, troll around it, lots of helpful videos on it and lots of gear that would go well in your shed. but it will cost you a lot of dinners out wearing new dresses & shoes.
His torch actually works better than the Dillion for welding but does not cut.

Dillion invented the torch, but down here CIG was the major retailer of Oxy welding gear & they also also were the only gas supplier thus a torch that uses next to no gas was never going to fly so he went broke.
Henrob was a marketing company that bought the torch off Dillion and it was sold as a Henrob for years.
Cobra actually make it so they all finally got together to form DHC

Still Welding....

BertMan,

I wandered around Kent's website and you were correct, there are endless things there a neophyte can learn! My problem is . . . well, . . to put it in a nutshell - age... I'm too damn old to invest in welding lessons in Nevada for the simple reason that I wouldn't be able to work long enough to get the value out of it. Plus being on a "fixed income" (the mantra of the retired) limits what I can conscientiously spend on anything that isn't related to eating and keeping in - out of the rain/snow/etc...

During my working (earning) lifetime, as an electrician I never really got into mechanics and machinery as deeply as I would have liked to, I guess I'm trying to make up for that, but on a shoe-string budget. I also dabble in forging and built a home made forge out of the rear brake drum from a large truck. My air source is a hair dryer, but it has to sit several feet away from the air-inlet piping or else it will blow the fire into the sky! I've made several large chisels out of lawn-mower blades in the forge. Started out using real charcoal - - BIG mistake! Especially when you turn on that hair-dryer! Sparks clear to the moon!

I'm just trying to learn how to do the things I've admired, that other men (and women) - I don't want to be a sexist pig - do on a daily basis.

Again, I appreciate your input.

Roger

AVATAR

Geez, I'm a little disappointed that none of you guys have so much as commented on my Avatar! (I finally figured out how to include one...) Nobody has asked - "What the h#ll is it"? - or anything... I mean I asked Boobala where he got a lawn tractor with a V-8 sitting in it... (And no cheating Ted, I already told you what the avatar is!)

I realize the pictures are very small and the real puzzle of this one isn't really apparent in that miniature size, so I'll attach it here and then you can (as I have) wonder if it's real or photo-shopped.

Roger

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Conning tower of a sub is my guess. I'm looking for an answer to the question you asked in the email.

Tom

Re: Still Welding....

Roger B said:

BertMan,

I wandered around Kent's website and you were correct, there are endless things there a neophyte can learn! My problem is . . . well, . . to put it in a nutshell - age... I'm too damn old to invest in welding lessons in Nevada for the simple reason that I wouldn't be able to work long enough to get the value out of it. Plus being on a "fixed income" (the mantra of the retired) limits what I can conscientiously spend on anything that isn't related to eating and keeping in - out of the rain/snow/etc...

During my working (earning) lifetime, as an electrician I never really got into mechanics and machinery as deeply as I would have liked to, I guess I'm trying to make up for that, but on a shoe-string budget. I also dabble in forging and built a home made forge out of the rear brake drum from a large truck. My air source is a hair dryer, but it has to sit several feet away from the air-inlet piping or else it will blow the fire into the sky! I've made several large chisels out of lawn-mower blades in the forge. Started out using real charcoal - - BIG mistake! Especially when you turn on that hair-dryer! Sparks clear to the moon!

I'm just trying to learn how to do the things I've admired, that other men (and women) - I don't want to be a sexist pig - do on a daily basis.

Again, I appreciate your input.

Roger

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Should be a nice little earner in your retirement.
Lots of folks pay good money for stuff like hand made fire irons.
A old aquaintance makes them.
He used to just do the one pattern which he hoped would become recognised as his "style" but got bored quickly and they sold cheap.
Now he does custom ones with peoples initials, names and the such in the handles ( split & twirled not wood ) and has orders to for over a year.

The panel beater next to my mother had his knees go so while he was off recovering I got him to make me some parts for my veteran BSA's.
HE made a few sets because he was not particularly happy with the way they turned out .
Well I took the lot, sold the excess and gave the proceeds back to him.
He now makes custom Harley parts in his shed, to order for custom shops & repair shops, makes twice what he used to as foreman panel beater and works 2-3 days a week .
His wife never stopped thanking me as he was a very proud German man and she feared for his mental health if he could not work and apart from metal working was virtually illeterate.

Norton owners pay silly money for alloy tanks to replace the fiberglass ones that are now all falling apart due to the nature of modern fuels.
Always oppertunities to justify the expenditure ,
Have a look around on evilbay and see the selling prices for hand forged items
Have a look at the age of Kent in some of the videos.
He would have to be 70 if he was a day.

Always meaningful work available for those who can use their hands
A retirement with some meaningful and reasonably renumerated work is a good reirement.
Enjoy yours.
I buy the way am well over retiring age.
Because I was too old and my van too small my last delivery contract was not renewed so I have been doing mowers ever since I turned 62 and look like doing it till around 75, health holding out.

Re: MTD Yardman Transaxle Rebuild

Bert-mobile,

I appreciate your suggestions, however having busted my hump ever since I was around 14 years old, I'm not overly inclined to do "work" which might come with demands and time frames. I much prefer to do pretty much as I damn well please and when I damn well feel like it. Also I have far too many interests and would not want to become tied down to doing one type of 'work'. . . . As I can only see 70 in my rear-view mirror, I don't feel I have enough time left to develop the quality for any skill I'm not currently 'fluent' in to make myself marketable. Plus I don't really need the money in order to survive in the life style which I currently enjoy. . . . And as much as I hate to admit it, when age creeps up on you, you to may well find that the quality of what you do produce isn't quite what it used to be, even though it took you twice as long to accomplish! I'm just out here trying to dabble in a number of vocations that have caught my interest over the years, to see what I might have missed, if you will...

Roger

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Tom,

I've already forgotten what question I asked in the email.. (Or else I don't understand what you meant) - Either case is possible.

Yep! You got it correct, it IS the conning tower (sail) of a diesel submarine, showing from left to right: Number one Periscope, Number two (attack) Periscope, the "Football" - (I could tell you what it is, but then I'd have to kill ya), Radio antenna, Snorkel intake mast and head valve, and then the snorkel exhaust mast and diffuser - with two guys riding on it!

Normally, as you might imagine, all that would be showing above the waterline would be maybe Number one Periscope, the snorkel intake and the diffuser just at the waterline to help hide the exhaust. None of us old bubbleheads have decided whether or not the photo is real.. No one today could believe that anyone would do that, and I must admit, even in the "old days", with the Captain's strong dislike for having to write somebodies mother a letter telling her how her son was lost at sea (while 'joy-riding' on the snorkel diffuser) the chances that it actually happened are pretty slim. Although we were known for doing some fairly crazy things back then. I recall talking the Officer of the deck into allowing me to go out on the forward deck while we were underway in the Caribbean to pick up the first flying fish either of us had ever seen, that had landed out there. That doesn't sound like much unless you have ridden an old diesel sub, and realize that the bow is underwater most of the time, even in calm seas.

We were both very interested in examining the fish up close.. One time I had to crawl under the walking deck, between that and the pressure hull while at sea in order to stop a leak around a water-proof cable fitting... THAT was exciting!

Interesting picture, photo-shopped or not.

Roger

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Roger B said:

Tom,

I've already forgotten what question I asked in the email.. (Or else I don't understand what you meant) - Either case is possible.

Yep! You got it correct, it IS the conning tower (sail) of a diesel submarine, showing from left to right: Number one Periscope, Number two (attack) Periscope, the "Football" - (I could tell you what it is, but then I'd have to kill ya), Radio antenna, Snorkel intake mast and head valve, and then the snorkel exhaust mast and diffuser - with two guys riding on it!

Normally, as you might imagine, all that would be showing above the waterline would be maybe Number one Periscope, the snorkel intake and the diffuser just at the waterline to help hide the exhaust. None of us old bubbleheads have decided whether or not the photo is real.. No one today could believe that anyone would do that, and I must admit, even in the "old days", with the Captain's strong dislike for having to write somebodies mother a letter telling her how her son was lost at sea (while 'joy-riding' on the snorkel diffuser) the chances that it actually happened are pretty slim. Although we were known for doing some fairly crazy things back then. I recall talking the Officer of the deck into allowing me to go out on the forward deck while we were underway in the Caribbean to pick up the first flying fish either of us had ever seen, that had landed out there. That doesn't sound like much unless you have ridden an old diesel sub, and realize that the bow is underwater most of the time, even in calm seas.

We were both very interested in examining the fish up close.. One time I had to crawl under the walking deck, between that and the pressure hull while at sea in order to stop a leak around a water-proof cable fitting... THAT was exciting!

Interesting picture, photo-shopped or not.

Roger

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Ahhh ... the things we military guys did ( & still do ) makes mothers cry themselves to sleep. Personally, ...I don't know why ANYBODY would even get into one of those claustrophobic "spam-cans" ... But then there are very interesting stories about a flyboy called "Pappy Boyington" & his "Black Sheep Squadron" . I really enjoyed all the ol war movies about our guys during W.W. 2 , I guess my favorite last "sub" movie was "The Hunt for Red October" fictional (?????) but enjoyable . My deepest respects to ALL the past, present & future "Phins " God Bless em ALL !! ...:thumbsup: ..Boobala

PARTS ARRIVED!!!

Finally my parts from eReplacementParts got here...

I ordered them on 11/16 @ 0630 and according to them they were ready for shipping later that same morning. But then, out of the desert comes Juan Valdez and his limping donkey to pick up the order and he starts plodding East...

(Admittedly, I signed up for the cheap $5 shipping option, but geez...)

So, yesterday afternoon, twelve days later, my mailman (mail person) shows up on my door step with one of those foam protected envelops and my parts have arrived! Today the transaxle goes back together.!!!

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Sweet.

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Just want everybody to notice his NEW avatar , I thank you Mr. "Spam-Can" (submariner) man ... for your service to our country !!

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Roger B said:

Finally my parts from eReplacementParts got here...

I ordered them on 11/16 @ 0630 and according to them they were ready for shipping later that same morning. But then, out of the desert comes Juan Valdez and his limping donkey to pick up the order and he starts plodding East...

(Admittedly, I signed up for the cheap $5 shipping option, but geez...)

So, yesterday afternoon, twelve days later, my mailman (mail person) shows up on my door step with one of those foam protected envelops and my parts have arrived! Today the transaxle goes back together.!!!View attachment 30554

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I can't hear it !! Is it running yet ???

And about that parts delivery... I know sometimes theres a 3rd supplier involved , which is reason for slow delivery, but I would have called Ereplacement and lit a fire under SOMEONES erogenous zone !! Usually they are P.D.Q.

IT WORKS!!!!!

Got the wood stove out in my shop fired up early and once that was heated up I went to work greasing the transaxle. First thing I discovered was the old grease gun that had been Becky's father's was manufactured pre-grease tube! Although a grease tube would fit inside, the piston plunger would not fit inside the tube! I had to hand fill the barrel of the grease gun. (I'd already spent about an hour disassembling the gun and cleaning out grease that must have been almost as old as I am!) Once the gun was working I filled the differential, which had to be done through four small holes in the gear covers. Once the differential was filled I started greasing the sleeve bearings (bushings) and then all the grease 'alleys' in the casting, (See picture of casting filled with John Deere, green Corn Head Grease.) The next job was to clean any excess grease off the mating surfaces of the two halves of the housing and then bolt it back together. Once that was accomplished I bolted the main drive pulley to the input shaft and then remounted the pulley assembly. The transaxle was completed! (Next picture.) Shop work was done, so I opened the door between the shop and the back of the garage and hung a couple little fans in the doorway to force heat out into the garage. (It was just 31* this morning.)

Now came what I assumed would be the 'hard' part, reinstalling the transaxle and reconnecting all those springs, belts and control rods. Actually that work was fairly easily accomplished, with just a minimum amount of cursing! The most difficult part was reattaching the main spring that tightens the drive belt between the engine and the pulley assembly.

Once everything was back together, Becky helped me by removing the frame stands while I held the tractor up. The brake was set (the only safety switch I left intact) the gear shift placed in neutral and the engine started. Becky opened the main garage door and I shifted into Forward and released the brake... . . . . Away I went! . . . Out the door and up the driveway.. I advanced the speed control to 7 (max) and it went right up the hill to the main road. Turned around and came back down, however, when I put the brake on again and shifted into reverse, Becky yelled at me to stop.. The brake rod had become disconnected from it's spring and dropped down to the ground. I reconnected it and tightened the open end of the spring. It hasn't happened since.

The YARDMAN in a functioning machine!

Roger

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Boobala said:

Just want everybody to notice his NEW avatar , I thank you Mr. "Spam-Can" (submariner) man ... for your service to our country !!

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Boo-Baby... I want to thank you for finding me all those nifty submarine designs... As you can see I picked out one that was far more appropriate to replace the 'most likely phony-photo' of the two guys riding the snorkel diffuser.

However, I would like to point out that submarine sailors are usually (and proudly too!) referred to as "Sewer Pipe Sailors", not "Spam Can Sailors"... Spam cans can't take the pressure... but sewer pipes can!

Thanks again for all the help, it's been a fun project.

Gotta go finish the trailer I made now. I discovered that I have to raise the hitch for it by 4" to reach the mounting plate on the rear of the tractor.

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Roger B said:

Boo-Baby... I want to thank you for finding me all those nifty submarine designs... As you can see I picked out one that was far more appropriate to replace the 'most likely phony-photo' of the two guys riding the snorkel diffuser.

However, I would like to point out that submarine sailors are usually (and proudly too!) referred to as "Sewer Pipe Sailors", not "Spam Can Sailors"... Spam cans can't take the pressure... but sewer pipes can!

Thanks again for all the help, it's been a fun project.

Gotta go finish the trailer I made now. I discovered that I have to raise the hitch for it by 4" to reach the mounting plate on the rear of the tractor.

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We the willing,..Urged by the Ungrateful & Unknowing,..Have done so much, with so little ,..for so long,... WE are now Qualfied ..
to do ANYTHING !! ... with NOTHING !! ...... That should sum it up !!

UHHH .... like you said Rog, ... there are more airplanes in the ocean, than there are submarines in the sky !!

NICE job Roger, ......10 Goldstars and an Atta-boy !! ...BUT just remember, ...one, AW - S**t !! ...wipes out ALL Atta-boys ..
......:thumbsup: ..:laughing: ...:laughing:

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Boobala said:

...BUT just remember, ...one, AW - S**t !! ...wipes out ALL Atta-boys ..
......:thumbsup: ..:laughing: ...:laughing:

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Geez, I thought the Navy coined that saying.. Probably some fly boy over heard a sailor in a bar and plagiarized it! LOL...

Thanks buddy, it's been fun...

Roge

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Roger,
Way to go on getting the mower back together. Thank you for your service as a Submariner, when I lived on GUAM (Military dependent at the time) our next door neighbor at the time was one of the few Naval Officers to wear both Submariner and Flight Officer wings. When asked he said "what ever goes up, always comes down but not everything that goes down comes up. I have taken tours on both the older diesel electric boats and a nuke boat. Also took my SCUBA certification at New London and we did a dive in the escape tower. From the top down then back up, not a lock out.
Have a few friends that were Navy tin can operators (ASSW, I think those are the correct letters) so I bet you all could have good chats. ;-)
Tom

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Pumper54 said:

Roger,
Way to go on getting the mower back together. Thank you for your service as a Submariner, when I lived on GUAM (Military dependent at the time) our next door neighbor at the time was one of the few Naval Officers to wear both Submariner and Flight Officer wings. When asked he said "what ever goes up, always comes down but not everything that goes down comes up. I have taken tours on both the older diesel electric boats and a nuke boat. Also took my SCUBA certification at New London and we did a dive in the escape tower. From the top down then back up, not a lock out.
Have a few friends that were Navy tin can operators (ASSW, I think those are the correct letters) so I bet you all could have good chats. ;-)
Tom

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Tom,

Guam huh? Land of the Goony Birds! So I take it your Officer buddy was going from "the boats" to aircraft and not the other way around.. Not me, I still hate flying.. We always said, "As long as your number of surfaces equals your number of dives, you're in good shape." Of course as soon as the diving alarm sounded, then you were 'one-up' on your number of surfaces.. But I would not have traded my ten years in 'the boats' for all the tea in China.. Some of the craziest b*st*rds I've ever met were boat sailors, but being crazy may have been a prerequisite for joining the sub service. Navy Seals are crazy too, (I've hung around some at Little Jim's Bridge in Fort Pierce), but they are a different sort of crazy... And not to insult Bert the Mobile-Man, but Aussies are REALLY crazy! Must come from living upside down! We had two Aussie divers paint a pink kangaroo on the upper rudder of the USS Sailfish SS-572 in the middle of the night, when we were in Hong Kong harbor in 1969-1970. We didn't discover it until sunrise the next morning.. Needless to say, our topside deck watch got in the sh*ts and just diving in Hong Kong Harbor qualified the Aussies as being crazy on any number of different levels!

Diving in the escape tower! How cool! Of course that's all gone now, but I understand they are building some sort of replacement. When I did my escape training that famous Navy guy that could hold his breath nearly forever was there. He threw a pair of Navy sneakers that were tied together with their laces in the tank - (they sank like a rock!!) - then he jumped in and s-l-o-w-l-y pulled himself down one of the cables, all 113' to the bottom, calmly untied the laces, put on the sneakers, retied the laces and then s-l-o-w-l-y came back up! To say I was impressed, would be an understatement! I started diving around 1960 and went to Divers Training School in Fort Lauderdale in 1963. I qualified as SCUBA Instructor and Commercial Shallow Water Diver. (Never did either as a business.) (How did you like the mermaids painted on the tank walls? - I didn't really get to see them, as I had no mask and everything was blurry.)

The acronym you are looking for is just ASW (Anti-Submarine-Warfare - unless the "skimmers" use another name) and submarines are actually the "point of the spear" in that business. I taught at FLTASWSCOL in San Diego for the last three years of my service.

What diesel boats did you tour?

Thank you for your recognition and for your service as a First Responder..

Roger

PS. I am going to do some 'body work' on the Yardman. The front has some minor dents and I'm going to try to pound them out and refinish it.. I guess I can continue to post that work here. The whole thread has sort of wandered from one subject to another and anybody that has bothered to read it might want to follow along with the rest of the project.

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AHhhh yes , a man of many talents ........ Paint & Body work ... Don't forget the pic's , I'm here watchin your every step, ready to scrutinize every little detail.....( LOL ) ...:laughing: ...:laughing: ...:laughing: .. Boobala

Body Work

OK, yesterday I hauled the hood off the Yardman and separated the grill portion. As you can see in the picture, it had a few small dents in it and the paint was damaged.

First you have to understand that my idea of "body work", consists of supporting the dented area over something immovable, (in this case a short section of RR track) then grabbing a ball pein hammer and beating the crap out of the dent until it's as close to the shape I want as possible. Once I got the dents fairly straight, I taped out the damaged area in a sort of "grill" shape and dusted some primer on the effected area so I could se any remaining bad spots. It wasn't bad, so I sanded the primer out where needed and applied a little Bondo to smooth any little ripples.

Today I'll sand down the Bondo and spray the new "grill" with flat black.. Maybe someday I'll do something fancier to the 'grill', but flat black will do for now. Why the rush you may well ask . . .????

Well!! Last night I got a call from Ichi Bon, Boy San (Number One Step-Son) who has a landscaping business and one of his customers has a lawn tractor with all sorts of attachments, and he can't keep the engine running, so he was going to junk the whole works! We'll be going to pick it all up on Saturday morning. That works out great as we were scheduled to cut down a large old apple tree and I was going to bring my trailer as I can have as much of the wood as is usable for lumber. Apple has a beautiful deep red colored center, with only a thin, lighter sap-wood area. If I get any decent logs I will take them to a mill and have rough planking sawn out. Then the boards will be 'stickered' to dry in my shop.

How do you EDIT posts!?!?!?

How about some pointers from somebody with experience at editing posts on this forum... OK, so I submit a post and even though I have reviewed it twice, after submitting it I discover a mistake, so I click on "Edit Post".. I have discovered that if I write too much, the entire post will not be displayed, only the top section... How do I edit portions that I can't see??? But lets say that my mistake was in the first sentence, so I go to it and make the necessary changes, then what do you do? There is no "Save" button, no "Submit" button, nothing! How in h#ll do you verify the correction???

Aggravating!!!

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Roger B said:

OK, yesterday I hauled the hood off the Yardman and separated the grill portion. As you can see in the picture, it had a few small dents in it and the paint was damaged.

First you have to understand that my idea of "body work", consists of supporting the dented area over something immovable, (in this case a short section of RR track) then grabbing a ball pein hammer and beating the crap out of the dent until it's as close to the shape I want as possible. Once I got the dents fairly straight, I taped out the damaged area in a sort of "grill" shape and dusted some primer on the effected area so I could se any remaining bad spots. It wasn't bad, so I sanded the primer out where needed and applied a little Bondo to smooth any little ripples.

Today I'll sand down the Bondo and spray the new "grill" with flat black.. Maybe someday I'll do something fancier to the 'grill', but flat black will do for now. Why the rush you may well ask . . .????

Well!! Last night I got a call from Ichi Bon, Boy San (Number One Step-Son) who has a landscaping business and one of his customers has a lawn tractor with all sorts of attachments, and he can't keep the engine running, so he was going to junk the whole works! We'll be going to pick it all up on Saturday morning. That works out great as we were scheduled to cut down a large old apple tree and I was going to bring my trailer as I can have as much of the wood as is usable for lumber. Apple has a beautiful deep red colored center, with only a thin, lighter sap-wood area. If I get any decent logs I will take them to a mill and have rough planking sawn out. Then the boards will be 'stickered' to dry in my shop.

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Nice big clean work area, some guys have it all .. I have a sand-lot ,a tree with a big branch and a heavy-duty rope , a shed which holds 5 pounds of S*** .. ( but being a flyboy and makin things compact like jet engines ... I managed to SQUEEEEZE 20 pounds into it ) AND ... I got a wife that I call 5 Horses ..( nag,nag,nag,nag,nag ) ALWAYS askin ... NOW whadda ya doin ?? When ya gonna finish that ?? ...when ya gonna finish this ?? She just does'nt understand ....these things take time ..... sometimes months, sometimes years !! ... ( LOL ) ..:laughing:

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Roger B said:

How about some pointers from somebody with experience at editing posts on this forum... OK, so I submit a post and even though I have reviewed it twice, after submitting it I discover a mistake, so I click on "Edit Post".. I have discovered that if I write too much, the entire post will not be displayed, only the top section... How do I edit portions that I can't see??? But lets say that my mistake was in the first sentence, so I go to it and make the necessary changes, then what do you do? There is no "Save" button, no "Submit" button, nothing! How in h#ll do you verify the correction???

Aggravating!!!

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I've had same problem... :smiley_aafz::smiley_aafz:..:mur::mur: ...Boobala

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Boobala said:

When ya gonna finish that ?? ...when ya gonna finish this ?? She just does'nt understand ....these things take time ..... sometimes months, sometimes years !! ... ( LOL ) ..:laughing:

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Boo-Babe,

Ya Just gotta tell her, "Hey, if I finish it.... Then what'm I gonna do???? - - - I'll have to hang around and bother you!!"

Works for me!

Roge

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Boobala said:

I've had same problem... :smiley_aafz::smiley_aafz:..:mur::mur: ...Boobala

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Oh great!! I was hoping you'd be able to tell me what a dub I was not being able to figure it out.. Let's hope someone can point us in the right direction...

Roger B

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Roger B said:

How about some pointers from somebody with experience at editing posts on this forum... OK, so I submit a post and even though I have reviewed it twice, after submitting it I discover a mistake, so I click on "Edit Post".. I have discovered that if I write too much, the entire post will not be displayed, only the top section... How do I edit portions that I can't see??? But lets say that my mistake was in the first sentence, so I go to it and make the necessary changes, then what do you do? There is no "Save" button, no "Submit" button, nothing! How in h#ll do you verify the correction???

Aggravating!!!

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That is a quirk with your browser. I have to close my browser and reopen it and sometimes even reboot to get everything working as it should.

Body Work - II

OK, the hood is all sanded out and a couple quick coats of Rustoleum's High Temp Flat Black were applied and allowed to dry... By the way, any of you guys that want a real good flat paint, try Rustoleum's High Temp! It comes in a number of shades and I even use it on the CRS (Corrosion Resistant Steel) propeller on my outboard. I wish it had a polished stainless steel prop, but it came from the factory (Yamaha) with the black painted CRS wheel. Rustoleum's High Temp paint will hang in there for a whole years usage as long as I can keep the boat away from the oyster beds down in Florida where I trailer it for the winter.

The hood was reinstalled and I took it out for a 'road-trip'.. The engine tends to run a little rough, the governor gets to cycling back and forth, if I haul it wide open with my finger, the engine goes wide open and smooths out.. Figured it must be a carb adjustment or something, so I twisted all the little screws and that did improve it for a while but not for long. I drove it up and down the street until the neighbors started looking out their windows. (Oh! I installed an Aaaaa-OO-Gah horn under the hood! Sounds like a submarine diving alarm... I love it!!! - - - Maybe if I hadn't been blowing that so often the neighbors wouldn't have noticed!)

I put the Yardman away and unloaded the ATV out of the utility trailer to get ready for tomorrow. Found out the Lawn tractor we're getting is a Bolens and I think it has a 14 HP engine.. That's all I know at this point.

Here's a picture of the 'fancy' new flat black grill.

Roger

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Lookin good Roger..

But I thought you meant you were doing something, ... a lil "different" ....???

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Somethng a "Little" Different...

Boobala,

I DID do something a "Lil" different... Just very 'little'!! I'm not talented enough to do anything really radically different, like those guys you posted pictures of...

Bad news for today... Ichi Ban Son San called last night and said he had something come up... No tractor snatchin' or apple tree choppin' today.. Bugger!! . . . Damn kids anyway.. They are all too busy now-a-days.

I guess I'll just stay home and reload some ammo..

Roger

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BlazNT said:

That is a quirk with your browser. I have to close my browser and reopen it and sometimes even reboot to get everything working as it should.

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Chuck,

I tried closing out of the forum and then going back in, but that didn't seem to help.. Is that what you meant? I have to admit to being "computer challenged"! So if you send me a whole list of technical things to do, I'll just end up staring at it like the dummy I am... Sorry..

I don't understand why my 'browser' should effect what the forum can or cannot do, but as far as what 'I don't understand' is concerned, that's only the tip of the iceberg!!

Roger

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Roger B said:

Chuck,

I tried closing out of the forum and then going back in, but that didn't seem to help.. Is that what you meant? I have to admit to being "computer challenged"! So if you send me a whole list of technical things to do, I'll just end up staring at it like the dummy I am... Sorry..

I don't understand why my 'browser' should effect what the forum can or cannot do, but as far as what 'I don't understand' is concerned, that's only the tip of the iceberg!!

Roger

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Ok lets see if I can explain it better. Internet Explorer, Edge, Chrome and others are browsers. It is what you use to connect to the internet to view web pages/forums. As long ad any tab of the browser is open you will continue to have this problem. So close all of them and then you can reopen and go to this forum.

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BlazNT said:

Ok lets see if I can explain it better. Internet Explorer, Edge, Chrome and others are browsers. It is what you use to connect to the internet to view web pages/forums. As long ad any tab of the browser is open you will continue to have this problem. So close all of them and then you can reopen and go to this forum.

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I don't use a browser to get to LMF, I have a shortcut on my desktop (goes straight to the URL) and I still have the problem on occasion .... :thumbdown: ... Boobala

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Unless you are getting the forum as individual emails, you are browsing using a browsing application .

There is a time limit on editing because it makes life hard for the server

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When you open the shortcut it opens your browser.

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BlazNT said:

When you open the shortcut it opens your browser.

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Well actually BlazNt & Bert ........ I was just testing you guys ... !!
NO ...huh ??? Well would you believe I have a special computer that Does'nt need a browser ..???
NO ...huh ??? Well guess I must be ignorant about SOME things ....
I only made ONE mistake in my whole life !! And.....that was when...I THOUGHT I did !! ( LOL ) ..:laughing: ..:laughing:

OK .....guilty as charged ....:ashamed: ..:ashamed: ..:redface:
And Roger ..... you quit that laughing this minute !!!

Editing

Well, I thank all you guys for trying to help, but the only one I understood was Bert-Man telling me that there was a time limit for editing. I had already noted that. But even if I hit "edit post" immediately after posting a message, if I've written a lot, (a problem I have, I know that too) most of the post is not displayed, maybe only the first and part of the second sentence. OHhhh, maybe Bert meant a time constraint from when I started typing!! Not after posting... Hmmmm, see re-reading the posts takes time and maybe that's where my problems come from.. I'm a slow typist too! I think I'm doomed...:frown:

Not to worry, I'll try rereading my posts four times before submitting them, then maybe, just maybe, I'll have fewer mistakes... :confused2:

Roger

NEXT PROJECT!!!!

Well, things went better yesterday that I had originally thought they were going to. We were able to go get the Bolens and it's a beauty! I think it is a 1973 (Vintage!!! Antique!!) It has always been keep inside and only used infrequently for snow blowing as the owner only comes here occasionally in the winter time. It is a one owner machine (the guy that gave it to us actually bought it new and has all the books that came with it!) and is in terrific condition for being 44 years old! Damn thing is built like a tank! It has an Onan twin, 16 HP engine.

It came with tire chains, a Bolens cab, Bolens snow blower, Bolens three blade mower deck and an after market trailer and an aftermarket lawn roller. All attachments are also in great shape. I am having a problem with the engine starting and running, but I will get into that on either the Bolens Forum or the Onan Forum.

This may be the end of this lengthy thread. I want to thank all you guys that helped me out here. I look forward to getting more help on some of the other forums.

Here's the new project.....

Roger

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There is only 1 forum.
It is just split into sections to make it easier to navigate through.
Nice find with that Bolens
There is a good reason why Bolens went broke.
Apart from a frame that only a submariner could access easily, the product was built too well.
It will last forever and there are enough of them out there for aftermarket suppliers to carry wear parts.
Unfortunately Jo public can not tell the difference between S*it and clay when it comes to things like mowers so good = cheap.
Thus quality mowers have a hard life and any quirk, like a drivers position you need to be a contortionist to get in or out of is death.
Shame, because once you are in the cab, it is comfortable enough to stay there all day.

Check the fan on the drive shaft if you are going to use it in the heat as they get munched up and the Eatons box cooks.
Not going to be a problem shoving snow.
The deck has bushing on all of the lift shafts these will most likely need replacing.
And whatever you do, slip some 2x4's under the deck before you try to remove it .
Got to be the heaviest deck ever made.
The 2 I now service will not fit on the trailer so I have to remove the decks to transport them.
Forgot the 2x4"s one time and was on the verge of a heart attack by the time I got it out.

As for editing posts.
The edit window has a grey border with a thick bar top & bottom
Bottom right is a triangle made with 2 or 3 slopped lines.
This is the resize tab.
Click on it and drag to change the size of the window you type in.
If your entire post is bigger than the window a scroll bar will appear on the far right side which blends in with the border.
When you next post, go into edit mode, click on the resize tab then scroll up & down.
The slider will appear & disappear as the window get bigger & smaller.

BOLENS

Bert,

If you think the mower deck is heavy, you ought to try to lift the damn snow blower! We have already discussed building a platform that the tractor could be driven up on so that the snow blower would be supported when removed or installed.

You and I are both old enough to have seen many good companies that produced quality machines go out of business because they priced themselves out of the market. As you said, it is the consumers fault for not putting quality above cost. I had a Case 448 for a while, it was my first 'lawn tractor' project and I found it intimidating to work on. (It was all hydraulic drive and the engine (another Onan twin) was in very sad shape. I ended up selling it as a basket case, but I did learn a lot with what work I did do on it. It was a rugged machine compared to todays lawn tractors, but still nothing compared to the Bolens.

I appreciated your detailed comment on editing. However, the only posting I had available that would still allow editing, showed my entire post (for the first time) and I didn't get to see the resizing triangle you mentioned. I will try again after my next lengthy post. Maybe this one!

Today I have to see if I can reshape the little clamp on the condenser in the Bolens breaker box. It needs to allow the condenser to lay flat against the back of the box so it's attachment screw can be screwed all the way in. Then I can reset the points and properly gap the spark plugs.. I beat the crap out of the muffler, I don't think it had ever been off before, but removing it afforded me lots of working space around the breaker box. It should go back on alright.

Thanks again . . . I'm going to see if I can edit this after I post it!

Roger

Editing

Bert,

When I tried to edit my last, after clicking on the "Edit Post" button, a light line appears around the post, but now there is a gray slide bar at the right-hand-end of the post that I could use to scroll up and down within the post, just like the slide bar at the far right-hand-end of this page that allows us to scroll up and down this entire page of posts..

I saw no little triangle and no gray border with a thick bar top or bottom.. That's weird!?!? But I could have edited the post if I had wanted to and I haven't been able to in the past. That may have been due to a time constraint as you previously mentioned.

Oh well, unless I find a new project I won't have anything to 'talk' about anyway.. I may just f-a--d---e away...

Roger

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Roger,
That ain't no mower .......... THAT be a FARM-TOOL ........... !!! Did ya get his pick-up truck and shotgun too...??..:laughing: ..:laughing:.... Now ya need a Before & After photo Album . .....Boobala ...:thumbsup:

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Boobala said:

Roger,
.... Now ya need a Before & After photo Album . .....Boobala ...:thumbsup:

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Boo-Boo,

The before and after album for the poor old Case wouldn't be real pretty.. But here's a few pictures of the project before I gave up and sold it on as a basket "Case"...

MERRY CHRISTMAS

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY!!

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MERRY CHRISTMAS

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Hey Global 2016,

Iseki used to make diesel engines for the small Ford garden tractors, like the LGT's, (as did Shibaura), but I understand they also made entire tractors. Can you post a picture and tell us something about your tractor?

Thanks,

Roger B

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Roger, don't miss a photo op of you in a Santa suit looking out of the Bolens!! Merry Xmas to all.

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motoman said:

Roger, don't miss a photo op of you in a Santa suit looking out of the Bolens!! Merry Xmas to all.

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Hellloo Moto... (Sounds like the phone ad on TV) only my Asian accent sucks...

No more Bolens postings I'm afraid.. Me and Boobala got banned.. Gotta hide out here on the endless MTD thread to nowhere..

This lawn tractor forum has got me going.. I find myself spending hours on TractorHouse.com and Tractordata.com.. I gotta get a REAL tractor. It's got to be small and light enough for me to lug around on my utility trailer. I'd say nothing much over a ton total weight with what ever attachment I might have on it. After some research that pretty much limits you to offerings by Kubota, which isn't a bad thing.. At first I was thinking of International Cubs, until I learned that their PTO's turn CCW and at full engine speed! That pretty much leaves out using an attachment made by any other manufacturer.. Bummer.. .. .. Anyway, I'm researching B-series (not BX) Kubotas. Anybody got any input for that endeavor?

Roger

Just remember: "Not all who wander, are lost!"

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Roger B said:

Hellloo Moto... (Sounds like the phone ad on TV) only my Asian accent sucks...

No more Bolens postings I'm afraid.. Me and Boobala got banned.. Gotta hide out here on the endless MTD thread to nowhere..

This lawn tractor forum has got me going.. I find myself spending hours on TractorHouse.com and Tractordata.com.. I gotta get a REAL tractor. It's got to be small and light enough for me to lug around on my utility trailer. I'd say nothing much over a ton total weight with what ever attachment I might have on it. After some research that pretty much limits you to offerings by Kubota, which isn't a bad thing.. At first I was thinking of International Cubs, until I learned that their PTO's turn CCW and at full engine speed! That pretty much leaves out using an attachment made by any other manufacturer.. Bummer.. .. .. Anyway, I'm researching B-series (not BX) Kubotas. Anybody got any input for that endeavor?

Roger

Just remember: "Not all who wander, are lost!"

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I gotta watch you like a hawk !!!!
Now you're after a ....TRACTOR !!! You ARE lost.... better consider a snow-mobile ..preferably with a BIG-BLOCK in it , Blower , injection AND open headers !!! Then you can "share the scit" outa folks while winging through the woods on the way to Grandma's place !! ( LOL ) ..:confused2:..:laughing:..:laughing:..:cool2:
HO, HO , HO Only way to go !!!

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Boo-Boo,

I am honestly beginning to think that you are at least as crazy, if not CRAZIER than most of the boat sailors I served with! (Whether or not you realize it, that IS a compliment!)

I can't wait to meet you! Can't wait to get out of Dodge for that matter! Three days ago it was Four Below Zero here, then day before yesterday it snowed all day. Yesterday the temperature soared (made it to 45 by the end of the day!!) and it rained all day!! This morning it was 14 degrees and our driveway was a solid mess of ice and frozen snow, Thank heavens for four-wheel-drive or we'd be stuck here until Spring!

They have those tractor auctions down in FL, I think we ought to go!

Ro-Ro

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Roger B said:

Boo-Boo,

I am honestly beginning to think that you are at least as crazy, if not CRAZIER than most of the boat sailors I served with! (Whether or not you realize it, that IS a compliment!)

I can't wait to meet you! Can't wait to get out of Dodge for that matter! Three days ago it was Four Below Zero here, then day before yesterday it snowed all day. Yesterday the temperature soared (made it to 45 by the end of the day!!) and it rained all day!! This morning it was 14 degrees and our driveway was a solid mess of ice and frozen snow, Thank heavens for four-wheel-drive or we'd be stuck here until Spring!

They have those tractor auctions down in FL, I think we ought to go!

Ro-Ro

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Please send snowballs, ... can't take this 80's & 70's temps much longer ...my cold drink plastic tumbler is melting ....What's word from #1 son ??? does he know which end of a screwdriver is the functional part ..??
Or is he a member of the Penske Racing Team ..?? I think he's gonna make ya sorry you gave him that Bolens.... probably have it running like a scalded a** ape come springtime !! Now listen up young un.. you n the wifey stay in the bungalow and snuggle ... I'll call around May or June let ya's know its gonna warm-up soon ... :laughing:..:laughing:..:laughing:..:banana:

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Boobala;251831 I'll call around May or June let ya's know its gonna warm-up soon ... :laughing:..:laughing:..:laughing:..:banana:[/QUOTE said:

You just keep your eyes open for the aforementioned '54 Chevy! . . . . I'll be pullin' donuts in your front lawn before you know it! :laughing::laughing::laughing:

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TO ALL the people viewing this thread!!! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

BOOBALA - BERT - TOM - et.al. !!!

Have you seen how many views this thread has received!?!?!?!? OVER 6,000!!! Holy crap!! I feel like we're on facebook, or something! Just imagine what would have happened if we'd written something really intelligent! (Not knocking your knowledge about "Grease" Bert, I'm just sayin'.....)

It does show what value the Forum has to it's community.. I gotta go find another tractor to work on..

Actually, next spring I plan to start building a mock submarine hull to go over the Yardman tractor. It will be a 'float' to go in parades. I have a buddy who is an engineer and has a CAD program who was going to help design the hull for me, but as I plan for this to have more of a 'humorous' theme, and for the hull to have a more 'fish' shape than actual 'submarine' shape, the CAD program would not be able to deal with something that "allegorical" (if that's the correct word) and wouldn't be of much help.

Something more along the lines of the attached drawing, than a 'real' submarine, but I am open to suggestions. Please submit them to: MTD/Parade Float Forum Thread: (Which hasn't been started yet!)

Roger

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Roger,
When you go to build your "boat" think foam insulation for your building material. Also a great sources of building foam is companies that sell small trailers as they use big blocks of foam to pad the trailers when they stack em up. You can use canned spray foam to glue the blocks together and then cut it with an electric craving knife, hot wire, hand saw or what ever floats your boat so to speak. Then use rasps,files, sand paper and or cheese graters to smooth it out. You can use "poor man's fiberglass" over it. That is old bed sheets glued on with Glidden paint's Gripper latex primer. Then you HAVE to paint it YELLOW. The parents will get it but I bet most of the under 30 crowd will not.
Good luck and post pictures.
Tom

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Pumper54 said:

Roger,
When you go to build your "boat" think foam insulation for your building material. Also a great sources of building foam is companies that sell small trailers as they use big blocks of foam to pad the trailers when they stack em up. You can use canned spray foam to glue the blocks together and then cut it with an electric craving knife, hot wire, hand saw or what ever floats your boat so to speak. Then use rasps,files, sand paper and or cheese graters to smooth it out. You can use "poor man's fiberglass" over it. That is old bed sheets glued on with Glidden paint's Gripper latex primer. Then you HAVE to paint it YELLOW. The parents will get it but I bet most of the under 30 crowd will not.
Good luck and post pictures.
Tom

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Ooooh That was right out of the triangle.
We used to patch rusty iron roof with canvas & red lead , a paint submariners should be very familiar with.
However if you go that route the dope that canvas aeroplanes are painted with might be worth a look as it shrinks a lot when it dries in order to keep the skin on the plane tight.
I know you can get it in small tins because model aircraft makers use it on the paper skinned models.

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WELLLLLL ....I gues I'll throw my 2 cents into the arena as well .... IF (ut-oh ... theres that word ) you could possibly locate & purchase cheap - hopefully ...an old WW2 era ....(are you ready for this Roger ??? ) Aircraft Reserve fuel DROP tank ... You would be 3/4 done with your project .... or look on craigs-list for plastic food drums/barrels I see them all the time especially here in Central Fl.

I know your imagination and your engineering friend can derive a solution . Obviously.. the plastic food grade barrels are cheaper and much easier to work with along with perhaps a "sub-skeleton " /frame made from electrical conduit ,
either PVC or metallic tube , but unlike the color YELLOW !!!! I would ( it's my nature ) try to appeal to the women folk by painting it ..... Fifty Shades of Grey .. !!!! Ha, Ha, ( LOL ) ..:laughing::laughing:..:2cents:

Sorry folks ... I 've warned ya's before ...sometimes I get this way !!! Have a great one ...Boobala

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Man you guys are wizards.. But first of all I want to thank you for not laughing at me. I am fortunate to have located such a bunch of "like-minded" people who rather than simply saying, "That's idiotic", said instead: "Hmmmmm, that sounds interesting, here's an idea that may bring it to fruition!"

Tom,

I LOVE the idea of the foam! and Bert-Man I am very familiar with red-lead (and white lead too!) But we'd all be hung by our thumbs for using such dangerous materials today! The model plane dope is good through. And Boo-Boo, your right on the same track as I've been thinking for mounting the hull!

Here is what I had in my somewhat distrubed mind. I was going to attach a light but strong 'inner frame' constructed of 1/2" or 3/4" EMT, (Electrical Metallic Tubing) directly to the tractors frame. Then I was going to cut out wooden "frames" from 1/2" plywood and attach them to the metal inner frame. The wooden frames would have numerous slots cut into their perimeter for light wooden lathes to be fastened into. The wooden frames and wooden lathes would provide the basic shape of the hull.. This would be covered with what I've always called "hen-wire". Then I was going to mix up a sort of 'paper-mache' and apply it over the wire mandrel. Once completed and dry, paint would provide some protection against the elements.

Boobala, the drop tank won't work because it would not be large enough to enclose the entire tractor. Or if it was large enough, it would probably weigh so much the tractor would be unable to move it! I 'hope' to be entirely inside the finished hull when operating it, so it looks like a submarine with wheels.. Don't laugh, we had one of those - strictly for research you understand... Yeah, right.. "research".. LOL

Now I'll have to give foam some serious consideration. I wonder if all the foam we see used for 'packing' could be chopped up and then reconstituted in some way back into a solid that could then be hand shaped as Tom suggested.

I've got the next three months to work up a solid plan, before I can get back to this project.

Roger

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Roger,

Use the wire form frame that you were thinking about and then spray the canned foam over it or see if there is a local foam insulation company that do it for you. When working with foam you really can't break it down and reform it, you just glue up a bunch of it and then shape it as needed. You can also use sheets of foam to build your frame or cover the "hull" with strips of foam then finish shape it. I think the dope that Bert was talking about would not work with the foam but would be great for a fabric cover. Just a big model airplane like we used to build back in the day. ;-)

Tom

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Pumper54 said:

Roger,

You can also use sheets of foam to build your frame or cover the "hull" with strips of foam then finish shape it.
Tom

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Tom,

I'm thinking that if I bought 4'X8' sheets of 3/4" blue (or even 'Pink!') foam board I could cut it into strips and glue it (they make special foam-board glue) to the wooden hull shape, I could then shape that fairly easily, a lot like building a strip-built boat! Any 'holidays' could be filled and filed using spray foam.

We do have spray foam companies here, In fact we had one of them foam the underside of our roof for insulation a number of years ago. It works great!

I really appreciate your idea, it had not occurred to me to use foam. It is a pity it can't be ground up and then have some magic solution mixed in and then spread like "foam-mache". It would act like the aggregate in cement. Makes me think of a product called 'micro-balloons', which are mixed into epoxy resin and used to smooth areas of boat hulls. I've got to think on that for a bit.. Might come up with something yet! It would be lumpy as hell though, wouldn't it?

Roger

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Just remember that styrofoam is very soluible in petrol.
We have a drum with old fuel in it that we drop foam into to get rid of foam packaging.

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Bert-Man,

I have been thinking about how 'sensitive' foam is to a number of solvents, but maybe a coat of rather inert latex paint might be sufficient protection.

What do you do when your "foam recycling barrel" is full? Big fire? Shrimp on the Barbie? Can you BBQ kangaroos? - (Are you a dry rub or a sauce man?? :licking

Roger

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That will never happen.
When the fuel gets a bit thick, I pour it into a 4 / 5 gal drum and set it aside.
Every few years they have a free "drum muster" to get rid of old drums of farm chemicals, so it goes out to them.
Otherwise it is a $ 200 fee at the recycle depot.
We built a styro foam recycling plant to get a "green Certification" for the Olympic games and the day the Parra-Olympics closed, so did the plant.
$ 30,000,000 worth of bull dust for the sole purpose to lie to the rest of the world about how eco friendly we are.

Farming the largest animal that self regulated is numbers according to available food / water, eats what grows naturally, thins down bushfire fuel, has an excellent tasting, lean meat.
What sort of fools do you think we are when we can run an imported animal that does not handle the enviroment particularly well, uses 10 times the water / kg of meat, destroys the pastures that they are feed in , requires constant monitoring to prevent over grazing , produces massive amounts of dung which generate unbelievable amounts of flies & eats almost nothing that grows naturally ?

I mean if we farmed kangaroo ( which is darn fine eating ) we would be doing exactly what those "stupid" black fellas had been doing for about 40,000 years which can't be right cause they had not even managed to invent a wheel so they could carry the stuff they did not need to places the wheel can not traverse for no good reason. Remember we are the better educated, well read , God fearing white men who eat beef. :confused2: :confused2:

Shrimp are Prawns down here and most are eaten boiled then chilled as prawn season is bloody hot down here. Most kangaroo goes into pet food because the "greenies" won't allow it to be sold in supermarkets so you can only get it at specility butchers which makes it expensive. Being that we nearly slaughtered them to extinction to make space for foreign species ( sheep , goats & beef ) so in a knee jerk reaction typical of "White Male Politicians" kangaroos are protected so you are not supposed to shoot them without a license and then you get told how many you can shoot. Gee we really are the smartest thing on the planet arn't we.

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Bert-Man,

I can see that you are less than impressed by the agricultural practices impressed upon your 'island' continent by the wizardry of modern farming. I do find it odd that some group of - - what would you call them?? - - naturalists . . . I dunno, but folks who have seen the errors of "our-ways" and realize that roos are a natural source of protein that should be 'farmed" and put to good use. Buffalo have reached that status here in some parts of the states. The meat is a little lean, but to someone like myself who tried not to buy any 'red' meat, but instead makes the best possible use of venison, it is fine fare indeed...

Do not despair! Things have a way of working themselves out for the good.. You just have to live long enough to see it happen!

Roger

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What I find difficult to believe ( well there are a lot of them really ) is we have a very strong "green" movement down here.
Most of the said same "Greenies" are also active in the anti- racists groups as well.
They are so determined to equalize & elevate the status of the previous human occupants, yet they refuse to believe that they black fellas actually MADE the country like it was when white fellas came here.
They think protecting the enviroment is locking up vast lumps of it and not letting any one in there, despite the fact that for 40,000 + years the locals had been living in & farming this forest by burning

The 'Greenie' Movement in Australia

Bert,

Although I must admit that my interaction with Australians has been minimal, that which has occurred, was always exciting! Those Aussie's I've met left me with a lasting impression of a rough and tumble group of lads who were always ready to try anything, especially anything wild and wooly.

Because of that impression, I imagine fellas of that ilk, finding themselves suddenly confronted by liberals, (which I rather expect your "Greenie" movement is composed of) to be a situation somewhat difficult to understand... (Or tolerate, for that matter!!)

Short story: We have a small mid-coast town that in the summer time is populated by liberals "from away" , (a Maine term meaning tourists from any other state, aka "foreigners"). They had developed a habit of standing on a small bridge that spans a river between two towns, holding up signs like "Save the baby seals", or whatever their current bleeding heart crisis happened to be. Some of the locals found this to be distasteful, or maybe they just felt it was a waste of good time when a person could be doing something useful, (Maine folks have a fairly strong work ethic and are usually happiest when working at something - and they have little use for anybody who doesn't 'work'!) . . . . . anyway - One of the local lobstermen had a couple of beers at the end of a long day of hauling traps and spotted several sign wavers on the bridge as he was driving home in his pick-up truck. He was taken by a sudden fit of displeasure and drove up on the sidewalk forcing several of them to climb the railing for safety and may have slightly 'bumped' one of the slower ones. Of course he had to go to court and there was quite a too-doo over it all, but we were thankful to note that all sign waving disappeared from the bridge after that. Well, that is until this past political election. Our feisty lobsterman passed away early last year and we noted a number of them had become embolden by his absence and although they didn't stand on the bridge, they did hold up signs from the relative safety of the roadside.

I guess that what I am saying is, that I can empathize with you. It can be difficult to understand what makes some folks tick...

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This is one of those "common language seperations "
We have a Liberal party in Aust who are conservative, not Liberal.
The greenies are generally found in what one might call slightly "left" or Chardonay Socialists ( Rolls Royces for all )
Emotionally driven people whose strong emotional beliefs fill their brains effectivly stopping any logical thought.

Please forgive this momentary diversion into the political arena, it will be short..

bertsmobile1 said:

This is one of those "common language separations "
We have a Liberal party in Aust who are conservative, not Liberal.
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Bert! Please send liberal party instructors to the States A.S.A.P.!! Our libs evidently have gotten it all wrong!!

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The greenies are generally found in what one might call slightly "left" or Chardonay Socialists ( Rolls Royces for all )
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"Aust" politics are very interesting! "Greens" here are so far 'left' that many simply carry their right arm in a sling and often can be seen with their right eyes closed! They would certainly never call for a great lumbering, petrol burning Rolls in every garage, it would most likely be a Prius 'C'.

Emotionally driven people whose strong emotional beliefs fill their brains effectively stopping any logical thought.

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Ahhhh, here in your last sentence, you have hit the nail on it's 'common' head.. They all fit that bill perfectly...

I wish I had a lawn tractor related subject to revert to before we are all chastised for our deviated ramblings.. Maybe Boo-Boo can salvage this thread by inserting some MTD related photo's.. Actually I discovered a lawn tractor here that looks all the world like his 'black beauty', but only has a 17 HP B&S under it's hood. Maybe I'll snap a photo and post it!

Rambling Roger... (a.k.a. Ro-Ro - although I guess it should be Ra-Ro, but that sounds to much like railroad.)

NEW MURRAY MTD MOWER

Check this out!

I found it out by the maintenance shed. I don't yet know if it works or not, but I'll find out...

Roger

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Roger B this is your thread. You can do anything with it you like. Besides I love to learn and I seem to be learning something almost every day.

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Roger B said:

Check this out!

I found it out by the maintenance shed. I don't yet know if it works or not, but I'll find out...

Roger

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And I just bought its perfect look alike for $100.00 .... Got it home and it started right up , but stalled after a few secs. , Gas cap is cracked and theres crud in the fuel tank... a good cleaning is in quick order . Good Batt., Good tires, New start solenoid, New Gator blades, good deck belt, new air filter....... OVERALL ..Very Good Cond.

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I could use a deeeeelll like this every week !!! ...:cool2::cool2::thumbsup::banana::banana:

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Boo-DUDE!!

That mower is a dead ringer for the one I posted pictures of! I thought I was going to have to go out and check to see if you had bought this one! By the by, I can't open the attachments you posted, something is wrong.. But from the pictures you emailed me, even the grill is missing just like on this one! Weird!!


BLAZIN' Chuck ----- Thanks for that info! . . . I did not know that! . . . Now I have learned something else!! I do know what you mean though .. I have learned all kinds of stuff from this forum! I mean, where else can you go to learn where to buy some obscure part for a lawn tractor, or that John Deere Corn Head Grease is a cost effective replacement for expensive MTD clay based grease, or that Wombats are not at all cuddly, but you can eat kangaroos if you can catch them? I mean this forum holds one of the finest collections of eclectic information available outside of wikipedia and there is no begging for donations!

I thank you for your contributions...

Roger

FORUM QUESTION

BLAZE-Man or BERT-Man,

You two guys have been posting on here like, forever, right? Probably since before powered lawn mowers anyway.. (I'm talking old push - reel mowers!)

Anyway, here is my question: Some postings have five gold stars that show on the thread heading when you view all the forum topics.. Now as a lad I must admit that I never, ever earned any gold stars in school. I was one of those youngsters who according to the teachers, "did not live up to my potential". So! Having been deprived of gold stars all my young life, and considering that I just celebrated my 73rd B-Day on Sunday, I was wondering how this thread could qualify for five gold stars?? I mean, whatcha gotta do? Go out and kiss babies, or start a petition, or what????

Roger (no star) B.

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Roger B said:

BLAZE-Man or BERT-Man,

You two guys have been posting on here like, forever, right? Probably since before powered lawn mowers anyway.. (I'm talking old push - reel mowers!)

Anyway, here is my question: Some postings have five gold stars that show on the thread heading when you view all the forum topics.. Now as a lad I must admit that I never, ever earned any gold stars in school. I was one of those youngsters who according to the teachers, "did not live up to my potential". So! Having been deprived of gold stars all my young life, and considering that I just celebrated my 73rd B-Day on Sunday, I was wondering how this thread could qualify for five gold stars?? I mean, whatcha gotta do? Go out and kiss babies, or start a petition, or what????

Roger (no star) B.

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Thanks for lettin me know you had a B-day coming ... ( I'm stating that VERY sarcastically ) .. (LOL) .. and you are 73 ...
thats it, no more forum for me ... YOU are leading me into temptations......being older you should realize how impressionable us youngsters are !!! At a time when I was younger myself, I was taught to answer any question to the best of my ability as directly as possible, and as concisely as possible ...eliminating useless drivel and preserving of time which is considered highly sacred by some . No sir .... you shall have ALL your stars removed for
all the forum to see ....as punishment for coaxing a younger member into a web of rantings and ravings about a distinctly vast amount of mindless mechanical aboritions and totally unrelated and useless proclamations .
And by the way Ro-Ro .... you acquire your stars from the amount of postings you produce, I think !!
Did I make that perfectly clear ?? ..... Boo-Boo (Boobala) ...:laughing::laughing:

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The stars under your name have to do with how many postings
Good or bad.

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OK so stars next to the title have do do with rating the thread. When you first open the thread in the almost middle gray bar to the right you can click on rate this thread. 5 stars from lots of people give you 5 stars. And for your birthday I give you 5 stars.

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BlazNT said:

The stars under your name have to do with how many postings
Good or bad.

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Blaze-Man - - Yeah, but those are just 'Green' Stars . . . but wait a minute . . . .

OH!! Whoopie!! I just saw 'em!!!! . . . . You got me *Gold* stars - - You are my Hero!!!

You ever want to come to Maine for a lobster dinner, you just let me know!!! I am at your service.. (And I have the reputation of being a damn good lobster cook!)
I also lobster all summer as sternman with one of my neighbors, so there is no shortage of 'em.

Maine dictionary: To "lobster" means to go out in a boat and haul traps that were previously set with bait in them to catch "Homarus Americanus" a.k.a. "Lobsters".
The "Sternman" is responsible for hauling traps, baiting traps, measuring lobsters, putting elastics on the lobster's claws, cleaning the boat, keeping the Captain from running aground and every other nasty job the Captain can think of!
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Boo-Boo, You got it all wrong, stars don't come from the number of posts.. somebodies gotta luv ya!!!

GOLD STARS!!! ************************ Whoopie!!!!

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Roger B said:

Blaze-Man - - Yeah, but those are just 'Green' Stars . . . but wait a minute . . . .

OH!! Whoopie!! I just saw 'em!!!! . . . . You got me *Gold* stars - - You are my Hero!!!

You ever want to come to Maine for a lobster dinner, you just let me know!!! I am at your service.. (And I have the reputation of being a damn good lobster cook!)
I also lobster all summer as sternman with one of my neighbors, so there is no shortage of 'em.

Maine dictionary: To "lobster" means to go out in a boat and haul traps that were previously set with bait in them to catch "Homarus Americanus" a.k.a. "Lobsters".
The "Sternman" is responsible for hauling traps, baiting traps, measuring lobsters, putting elastics on the lobster's claws, cleaning the boat, keeping the Captain from running aground and every other nasty job the Captain can think of!
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Boo-Boo, You got it all wrong, stars don't come from the number of posts.. somebodies gotta luv ya!!!

GOLD STARS!!! ************************ Whoopie!!!!

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WOW it sure does'nt take much to make you happy.... I can only guess what happens if you "get-lucky" ( LOL )
ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, ..:laughing::laughing::laughing:

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Roger,

Happy Birthday to you Sir, wishing you many many more. Will get with you later in the spring to arrange a meeting when I am up your way. Looking forward to shaking your hand.
Tom

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Roger B said:

Blaze-Man - - Yeah, but those are just 'Green' Stars . . . but wait a minute . . . .

OH!! Whoopie!! I just saw 'em!!!! . . . . You got me *Gold* stars - - You are my Hero!!!

You ever want to come to Maine for a lobster dinner, you just let me know!!! I am at your service.. (And I have the reputation of being a damn good lobster cook!)
I also lobster all summer as sternman with one of my neighbors, so there is no shortage of 'em.

Maine dictionary: To "lobster" means to go out in a boat and haul traps that were previously set with bait in them to catch "Homarus Americanus" a.k.a. "Lobsters".
The "Sternman" is responsible for hauling traps, baiting traps, measuring lobsters, putting elastics on the lobster's claws, cleaning the boat, keeping the Captain from running aground and every other nasty job the Captain can think of!
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Boo-Boo, You got it all wrong, stars don't come from the number of posts.. somebodies gotta luv ya!!!

GOLD STARS!!! ************************ Whoopie!!!!

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CHECK THIS OUT !!!
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This is located on the site ...located under Site Discussions @ the front pages of the forum ..

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Boobala said:

CHECK THIS OUT !!!
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This is located on the site ...located under Site Discussions @ the front pages of the forum ..

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Boobala theses are the stars he was talking about.

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BlazNT said:

Boobala theses are the stars he was talking about.
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OH !! Now I see ....... said the blind man ! OK Chuck ........ I got it , now I'm NEVER gonna hear the end of it from from that Roger guy !!
I can hear him laughin his "set-down" ( a**) off now !!! He is RELENTLESS !!! only guy I know that could write a 67 page essay on how to
pass gas and blame it on someone else, somewhere in the next room !! ..:confused2:..:laughing::laughing:

OLD AGE and GOLD STARS

Geez Tom, ya didn't have to go and call me "Sir"... I know I'm probably old enough to be yer pappy, but geez... now I'm all embarrassed and stuff.... You get to Maine and I'll probably blush if you shake my hand... Geez.....

When anyone ever called us submarine enlisted swine . . . "Sir",. . . we always replied: "Don't call ME 'sir', I'm just as good as you are!"

OK Boo-Boo, you were right after all.. You DO get stars under your name according to the number of posts you have made, but holy mackerel, ya gotta do 250 posts to get gold ones!! Even I can't talk that much!!

BLAZ-Man...He's the dude!! The gold star king!!!

Boo---- Where's all the pictures of the new MTD Murray, poppin' wheelies and layin' rubber on the road...??? I wanna see that bad boy...

Roger

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Roger B you are at 122 post and counting. You will get that star before long.

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Roger,
If you were my Pappy you have been 13 when you had my Mom. LOL I'm not that far behind you. I was raised in the South where we learned that a Gentleman calls ALL men Sir and ALL Ladies are Ma'am or Miss. I still hold doors for any body approaching, man or woman.
Tom

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Pumper54 said:

Roger,
If you were my Pappy you have been 13 when you had my Mom. LOL I'm not that far behind you. I was raised in the South where we learned that a Gentleman calls ALL men Sir and ALL Ladies are Ma'am or Miss. I still hold doors for any body approaching, man or woman.
Tom

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Tom,

Well, although I was raised a damn Yankee, I too still hold or open doors for all, man or woman, but I tend to withhold the honorific "Sir" until the gentleman has proven he deserves my respect.. When I was younger, I will admit that age was often the only proof I required.

With that said, I have lived among Southerners enough to appreciate their teaching their children to respect their elders and to honor them with 'Sir' or 'Ma'am'. I was just pulling your chain when I got after you for calling me 'Sir'.. But with that said, I'd just as soon be your friend, . . . . . 'Roger'...

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BlazNT said:

Roger B you are at 122 post and counting. You will get that star before long.

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Chuck,

Are you trying to say that my 'mouth runneth over' when it comes to posting? . . . . Hmmmmm, . . . I think you're right!

If and when I hit the 250 post level, I may just slow down so I can enjoy those additional Gold Stars for as long as possible! :laughing::laughing:

CREDIT where CREDIT is DUE!!

Boobala,

I have just been re-reading some of the posts on this thread and I came to the realization that I have not given you the credit that you are due.

First of all I realized that your posts are very humorous and have added a good deal of "readability" and enjoyment to the thread. That is not to take away from anyone else who has posted here, all have their value, but you are one funny dude!

Secondly, you are also an intelligent guy, with a gift for turning a phrase and spinning a tale..

Thirdly (?) - You are also a gifted mechanic and very knowledgeable about tricky little things that often confound those of us who find ourselves struggling to get an engine running - like carburetors...

Fourthly (??) - You are a veritable wealth of information when it comes to finding websites, pdf's, manuals, spec sheets, and damn near anything else related to the repair and restoration of mechanical devices...

I just wanted you to know, you are appreciated!! (Maybe BLAZ-Man will award you with Gold Stars!)

(Now send me the $20 you promised me if I said all this crap and we're even...) :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Roger

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Hey there Ro-Ro
I think I told ya my wife (before we were married ) had this MTD mower...46in. cut , 21 HP Briggs twin eng. with the CVS drive trans in it ......that WAS....... a GREAT machine ............

...... ..........

well....... when we got married & moved , we left that mower at that house for her (living there kids) and later found out that because of a broken belt .... the damn thing wound up leaving the property piece by piece ...
a short time later... they acquired a 38 in cut 13.5 horse Bolens . Yeah.... the same exact thing ....piece by piece
they now have a 20 in. walk behind NOT self-propelled push mower to cut the approx 3 acres of the 5 acre property... Hows that Mc Donalds jingle go ??? OH YEAH ...... I'm Luuuuuuvvvvvvvin it !!!!!!!

If you're gonna be dumb ...ya better be tough !!

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Roger B said:

Boobala,

I have just been re-reading some of the posts on this thread and I came to the realization that I have not given you the credit that you are due.

First of all I realized that your posts are very humorous and have added a good deal of "readability" and enjoyment to the thread. That is not to take away from anyone else who has posted here, all have their value, but you are one funny dude!

Secondly, you are also an intelligent guy, with a gift for turning a phrase and spinning a tale..

Thirdly (?) - You are also a gifted mechanic and very knowledgeable about tricky little things that often confound those of us who find ourselves struggling to get an engine running - like carburetors...

Fourthly (??) - You are a veritable wealth of information when it comes to finding websites, pdf's, manuals, spec sheets, and damn near anything else related to the repair and restoration of mechanical devices...

I just wanted you to know, you are appreciated!! (Maybe BLAZ-Man will award you with Gold Stars!)

(Now send me the $20 you promised me if I said all this crap and we're even...) :laughing::laughing::laughing:

Roger

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HEY there sewer-pipe rider
I already sent you a CZECH .... if she was'nt to your liking I'm sorry ... best I could do in a pinch !! ( LOL )

P.S. you forgot the part where I part the Fields of Grass a bring forth pastures of golf-course greenery !!
WHAT HAPPENED ??? did ya lose the script ....AGAIN ...?????

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Boobala said:

HEY there sewer-pipe rider
I already sent you a CZECH .... if she was'nt to your liking I'm sorry ... best I could do in a pinch !! ( LOL )

P.S. you forgot the part where I part the Fields of Grass a bring forth pastures of golf-course greenery !!
WHAT HAPPENED ??? did ya lose the script ....AGAIN ...?????

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Boo-Boo,

"CZECH" received and accepted! We're square on that account.... keep yer $20....

Unfortunately, I have not been privy to your lawn mowing abilities... I do know you can make 'em work, but I haven't seen you work'em yet...

If there is a script involve here, I think we all lost it long ago... :laughing:

Ro-Ro

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Boobala said:

If you're gonna be dumb ...ya better be tough !!

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There ain't no fixin' stupid!!

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Roger B said:

There ain't no fixin' stupid!!

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Ahhh the sayin goes .......... Ignorance , CAN be fixed ! ... Stupid is FOREVER !!!!! ...:laughing::laughing:

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BELIEVE me !!!
THIS is a Genuine MTD Submarine Parade Float , Last Minute Idea the best I could come up with at the very last moment



Thought since we're off subject ( as usual ) I'd throw this in to remind you of your obligations ...
No slackin on my watch ...buddy !!!! :laughing::laughing::laughing:

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Roger B said:

Tom,

Well, although I was raised a damn Yankee, I too still hold or open doors for all, man or woman, but I tend to withhold the honorific "Sir" until the gentleman has proven he deserves my respect.. When I was younger, I will admit that age was often the only proof I required.

With that said, I have lived among Southerners enough to appreciate their teaching their children to respect their elders and to honor them with 'Sir' or 'Ma'am'. I was just pulling your chain when I got after you for calling me 'Sir'.. But with that said, I'd just as soon be your friend, . . . . . 'Roger'...

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LOL Thank you Roger (Sir)
Tom

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Boobala,
Nice work there. I was thinking you might be suffering from cabin fever then I remembered that you are in Sunny Florida so maybe sun stroke?

Tom

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Pumper54 said:

Boobala,
Nice work there. I was thinking you might be suffering from cabin fever then I remembered that you are in Sunny Florida so maybe sun stroke?

Tom

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You have to watch out for guys like Roger... those NAVY boys have been taught what hard work really is.... they can stand around and watch it for hours on end !!! ( LOL ) :laughing::laughing::laughing:

SUBMARINE PARADE FLOAT

Boobala said:

BELIEVE me !!!
THIS is a Genuine MTD Submarine Parade Float , Last Minute Idea the best I could come up with at the very last moment

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Thought since we're off subject ( as usual ) I'd throw this in to remind you of your obligations ...
No slackin on my watch ...buddy !!!! :laughing::laughing::laughing:

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Although that is indeed a splendid effort, I do hope to come up with a shape that is more inline with today's submarines... I know it's odd, but for some reason (physics, mostly) 'flat' hull sections tend to have less resistance to collapsing under pressure than curved and circular sections...

But you keep working on it, you're doin' a fine job...

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Roger B said:

Although that is indeed a splendid effort, I do hope to come up with a shape that is more inline with today's submarines... I know it's odd, but for some reason (physics, mostly) 'flat' hull sections tend to have less resistance to collapsing under pressure than curved and circular sections...

But you keep working on it, you're doin' a fine job...

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Does that mean I get a trophy for participation ...or a cetificate of appreciation ...???
are there any GOLD stars involved ??? ...:confused2:..:laughing::laughing:

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Best I could do.

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BlazNT said:

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Best I could do.

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Chuck,

You are the BEST!!! If you'd have been one of my teachers back when I was a kid and had given me Gold Stars, I probably would have lived up to the potential that my teachers at the time were concerned I wasn't reaching.... Just think what a difference that could have made to my life! I might have even joined the Air Force like Boo-Boo and learned that everybody ought to have a nice cushy 9-5 job, even in the military... Then I wouldn't have beaten my poor old body so bad all these years and today I would still have a spring in my step instead of limping along like a broken old man.... Ohhh, the lost possibilities - it brings a tear to my eye..

Roge

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Roger B said:

Chuck,

You are the BEST!!! If you'd have been one of my teachers back when I was a kid and had given me Gold Stars, I probably would have lived up to the potential that my teachers at the time were concerned I wasn't reaching.... Just think what a difference that could have made to my life! I might have even joined the Air Force like Boo-Boo and learned that everybody ought to have a nice cushy 9-5 job, even in the military... Then I wouldn't have beaten my poor old body so bad all these years and today I would still have a spring in my step instead of limping along like a broken old man.... Ohhh, the lost possibilities - it brings a tear to my eye..

Roge

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OH come on Roger...
The ONLY thing that brings a tear to your eye is the realization that you totally blew it when you joined the Navy instead of the Air Force !!! You still mention it , you were probably "hoodwinked" by those stories of mermaids behind every rock on a faraway beach !!! Ha,Ha,Ha, ( LOL ) :laughing::laughing:

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Boobala said:

OH come on Roger...(do you believe the) stories of mermaids behind every rock on a faraway beach !!! Ha,Ha,Ha, ( LOL ) :laughing::laughing:

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Boo Boo, If you haven't seen the mermaids, there is really no way I could describe to you just how beautiful they are...

Ya gotta see 'em to believe 'em.... Know what I mean?

Ro Ro

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You guys are killing me here, get a room. LMAO

I would like to say Thank you to every one that served and to their families that put up with they long deployments.

Now back to our regularly scheduled programing.
Tom
USMC 1975-1979

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Pumper54 said:

You guys are killing me here, get a room. LMAO

I would like to say Thank you to every one that served and to their families that put up with they long deployments.

Now back to our regularly scheduled programing.
Tom
USMC 1975-1979

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HEY Ro-Ro ...... ck it out ..... looks like we got us a "leather-neck" in the area .... yeah those are the guys that
use us guys for their transportation needs .. they use your boats and my airplanes ... WELL .. since they"re the first to fight .... n THEY do most of the ..... on the ground kickin butt ... we can cut him some slack ...Ha,Ha, ( LOL ) ..:laughing::laughing: AND ..... Thank You for your service too ..

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OK ....... Tom N Chuck ...

Quiz -Time .......... which mower .. is the better and why ??

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Boobala said:

OK ....... Tom N Chuck ...

Quiz -Time .......... which mower .. is the better and why ??

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OOHH - -OOHH - - I can guess!! . . . . Can I guess??? . . . Can I huh??? . . . Is it the one with the shiny yellow wheels and the CVT tranny?? . . Is it huh?? . . . Com'on that's it, right??

Or,, wait a minute!! is it the one that only cost $100 and was such a deal.. Is it that one??? . . . . Geez, now I don't know which one to pick...

Roge

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Tom
USMC 1975-1979

Geez Tom, you never told us you were a gen-u-wine GI-reen before!!

Thank you for YOUR service..

Now I gotta look up to you! Submarines are w-a-y lower than Marines...

Roger Ramjet!!! (that was my submarine nickname) Atten-Hut!........Hand Salute!!! . . . . . . . . Two!

Honors have been rendered...

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Boobala said:

HEY Ro-Ro ...... ck it out ..... looks like we got us a "leather-neck" in the area .... yeah those are the guys that
use us guys for their transportation needs .. they use your boats and my airplanes ... WELL .. since they"re the first to fight .... n THEY do most of the ..... on the ground kickin butt ... we can cut him some slack ...Ha,Ha, ( LOL ) ..:laughing::laughing: AND ..... Thank You for your service too ..

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I will say this I have the utmost respect for any one who the uniform of any of services. I had a great time on both floats I was on, both time to europe as embarked troops on LST (Landing Ship Tanks) which don't handle rough seas well. LOTS of seasick Marines on those ships and we used to go to Seymour Johnson AFB in North Carolina some weekends because they had a better NCO Club and the chow halls were WAY better then what we had. Spent time both working/serving with and or staying on military bases of all the branches. Great people in all of them.
Tom

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Boobala said:

OK ....... Tom N Chuck ...

Quiz -Time .......... which mower .. is the better and why ??

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Ummmmm is this a trick question? LOL
Tom

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Pumper54 said:

Ummmmm is this a trick question? LOL
Tom

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Tom,

Can we refer to you as a "Jar Head" or is that considered impolite? If so, please accept my sincerest apologies.. and then forget I ever mentioned it..

Now on to the pressing question that Boo-Boo has presented us with: I think it has to be the one with the pretty yellow wheels - don't you?? I mean presentation is worth at least 50% of the points awarded in any beauty contest...

Roger
Also known as "Bubble head" (and I have the tee shirt to prove it!) Or "Sewer Pipe Sailor"....
But I like: "Deep-Diving, Death-Defying, Steely-Eyed, Submariner Extrodinaire" . . best of all!!!

P.S. I made an eleven month cruise away from home port one year. Does that count as a "Long Deployment"?

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Roger B said:

Tom,

Can we refer to you as a "Jar Head" or is that considered impolite? If so, please accept my sincerest apologies.. and then forget I ever mentioned it..

Now on to the pressing question that Boo-Boo has presented us with: I think it has to be the one with the pretty yellow wheels - don't you?? I mean presentation is worth at least 50% of the points awarded in any beauty contest...

Roger
Also known as "Bubble head" (and I have the tee shirt to prove it!) Or "Sewer Pipe Sailor"....
But I like: "Deep-Diving, Death-Defying, Steely-Eyed, Submariner Extrodinaire" . . best of all!!!

P.S. I made an eleven month cruise away from home port one year. Does that count as a "Long Deployment"?

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AHHHhh yeah ... those pretty "chickin - poop" yellow wheels ... does it every time !! MTD ( Made To Disintegrate ) ...wont last
1/2 as long as that mean - lean Murray machine ...check out the Gun Metal Grey wheels on that baby... made from recycled submarine torpedo tubes the tuff stuff ..... Murrays Mean Business !! Yes they do !!! ....:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

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Roger,
You can call me Jar Head, Leather Neck, Webfoot Warrior, Marine or just Tom. ;-)
Tom

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Boobala,

I will go with the Murray as I have one also. I'm not that much into "shiny stuff"
Tom

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If I remember right Murray ceased to exist in 2006. They are now MTD made.

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BlazNT said:

If I remember right Murray ceased to exist in 2006. They are now MTD made.

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Correction... Murray was taken over by Briggs & Stratton in 2005/2006 ... Boobala

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I stand corrected. Not sure it is any better. Only time will tell. They do now sale a ZTR so that is a plus.

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Boobala said:

Correction... Murray was taken over by Briggs & Stratton in 2005/2006 ... Boobala

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Murray is now made in China.
Not sure if under license or if brand name has been sold .
The mowers are direct copies of the pre B & S Murray.

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bertsmobile1 said:

Murray is now made in China.
Not sure if under license or if brand name has been sold .
The mowers are direct copies of the pre B & S Murray.

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Can't keep up with ownership /company /subdivisions / spinoffs / mergers / trades / brand-names etc. etc.
It seems every month theres a name change ...

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Thats mine.
Tom

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Pumper54 said:

Roger,
You can call me Jar Head, Leather Neck, Webfoot Warrior, Marine or just Tom. ;-)
Tom

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Tom,

Buddy, you KNOW I'm just gonna call you by your given name, even if you have earned all the other monikers...

Someday if we ever get together (remember - FREE lobsters in Maine!) I'll tell you some stories of the terrible tricks we played on Jarheads in various parts of the world!!

By-the-by... Boo-Boo and I are supposed to get together and meet this coming Saturday.. so if you never hear from me again, inform the authorities, OK??

Thanks,

Roger

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Pumper54 said:

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Thats mine.
Tom

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Is that it ...??? NO MORE ....??? We want more ... Got an engine in it ..?? Cmon Tom !!! ..:laughing::laughing:

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Here are some more pictures, I fabbed up a front and rear mount for a small winch and added tire chains on the rear wheels.Needed the chains to make going up a hill we have at the farm easier. The winch because I could. ;-)







Hope that satisfies your daily requirement for mower porn. LOL
Tom

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OK Tom ........ that was MORE GOODER !!!! ( LOL )

Some nice pics there buddy .... like the winch .... comes in handy for pullin your buddies that are stuck in the mud
or yourself for that matter... :thumbsup:

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Nothing satisfies your addiction to mower porn. It ruins families.:laughing:

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BlazNT said:

Nothing satisfies your addiction to mower porn. It ruins families.:laughing:

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......https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTD_Products

......https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Husqvarna_Group

,,,,,,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCulloch_Motors_Corporation

Man ...if they see all this stuff , I'll never live it down !!!
Rats ........ my @#^%$#@ DELETE PORN button just broke !!!! .. UTT -OHHH WHAT NOW ???..:ashamed::ashamed::ashamed::ban:

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Boobala said:

Can't keep up with ownership /company /subdivisions / spinoffs / mergers / trades / brand-names etc. etc.
It seems every month theres a name change ...

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Do a search for Murray Mower on Ali BarBa

I can get them down here for $ 950 landed if I buy 500 or more.
GST adds $95 and they sell for $ 3000 + GST

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Root141 - - Seriously??? You think you're gonna sell freakin' toys to this group of hardened wrench-twistin' knuckle busters? Get a life dude, but do it some where else!

Tom,

This dickweed is somewhere in your State, can you hunt'em down?

HUSQVARNA

l loved the Wiki inclusion of the Swedish pronunciation of Husky for us!!

Husqvarna Group (Swedish pronunciation: [ˈhʉ̞ːskvɑːɳa])

Oddly enough, I am still not able to properly twist my tongue the right way to pronounce that word!

Roger

ALIBABA

Bert,

Recently I have ordered things (especially electronic items) from Amazon that were handled and shipped direct from PRC. You suppose they originate from Alibaba suppliers?

Just for everyone's edification: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alibaba_Group

Lots of new 'symbols' here! I understand there are over 2,000 'letters' in the Chinese language..

Roger

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Roger B said:

Root141 - - Seriously??? You think you're gonna sell freakin' toys to this group of hardened wrench-twistin' knuckle busters? Get a life dude, but do it some where else!

Tom,

This dickweed is somewhere in your State, can you hunt'em down?

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Settle down there Ro-Ro , .... Root 141 was most likely lookin at another site for shopping and SHE became confused ...
you should realize these YOUNG GIRLS get dis-orientated when they accidentaly hit upon the mens sites ...
I'm sure SHE realizes HER mistake and will move on without further provocation. ...:wink::wink:

Explanation

Roger B said:

Root141 - - Seriously??? You think you're gonna sell freakin' toys to this group of hardened wrench-twistin' knuckle busters? Get a life dude, but do it some where else!

Tom,

This dickweed is somewhere in your State, can you hunt'em down?

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This is to explain what this post was about for those who are following this thread but may have missed what happened. Someone called Root141, supposedly from TX popped on here with a posting in between post #193 and #194 inviting all of us to check out their website that was selling toys.. I didn't think that was appropriate for this thread and obviously, neither did Boobala... (Post #197). However, there is SOMEONE out there with 'ultimate power', because they zapped old root141 and their posting disappeared! So let that be a warning to all of us... Don't try to sell stuff on here (especially something unrelated to lawn mowers) and always be nice, 'cause the Forum Master can strike without warning and zap you into oblivion!

Roger B

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I turned the post in as advertising. One of the big wigs deleted it.

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BlazNT said:

I turned the post in as advertising. One of the big wigs deleted it.

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Thanks Chuck, I didn't know how to do that... I thought that the "Big Forum Brother" was looking over our shoulders and hit the DELETE button!!

Oh, by the way, if I ever pi&& you off just let me know, OK? I don't want to get on your bad side.....

BIG MEETING

Tom,

(This post is mostly for Tom, cause he was my safety net in case Boobala tried to abduct me or something worse!!)

So, Tom.... Everything went great today! We met Boo-Boo and his beautiful wife over in their neck of the woods and Boo and I just chewed the fat for a couple hours while the girls went shopping in one of Florida's HUGE flea markets! We had a great time! Then they took us to their favorite restaurant that offered Southern Home Style Cookin' for lunch and the food was great! . . . . And there was tons of it! . . . . . We had to take a large-sized doggy box home with us, but luckily we don't have a dog! So we get to eat all the left-overs ourselves!

This forum has been great! Knowledgeable and helpful members, who turn out to be great friends! Who could ask for anything more? I think we should all get together and climb aboard some old tramp steamer and head down to Australia so we can go visit Bert, he seems be be a tickety-boo sort of guy... Probably he'd throw a extra kangaroo on the barbie and find a case of Fosters for all hands...

All is right with the world on this end..

Roger B

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Roger B said:

Tom,

(This post is mostly for Tom, cause he was my safety net in case Boobala tried to abduct me or something worse!!)

So, Tom.... Everything went great today! We met Boo-Boo and his beautiful wife over in their neck of the woods and Boo and I just chewed the fat for a couple hours while the girls went shopping in one of Florida's HUGE flea markets! We had a great time! Then they took us to their favorite restaurant that offered Southern Home Style Cookin' for lunch and the food was great! . . . . And there was tons of it! . . . . . We had to take a large-sized doggy box home with us, but luckily we don't have a dog! So we get to eat all the left-overs ourselves!

This forum has been great! Knowledgeable and helpful members, who turn out to be great friends! Who could ask for anything more? I think we should all get together and climb aboard some old tramp steamer and head down to Australia so we can go visit Bert, he seems be be a tickety-boo sort of guy... Probably he'd throw a extra kangaroo on the barbie and find a case of Fosters for all hands...

All is right with the world on this end..

Roger B

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All I can say is ....... a fantastic day, with fantastic people, fantastic food, fantastic weather, brought us a FANTASTIC meeting with the great couple we met through this forum.. just want Tom, Chuck, Trevor (bert) and all those members that follow this thread to know we have some of the worlds BEST people here on this site ! What a wonderful pleasure it was to meet with Roger and his beautiful wife Becky ... it's a great feeling to know that on this site, we all leave our differences and indiffereces outside and show the world we all get along sharing a common interest. If only that common interest could also include kindness and understanding of all mankind... Watch out Trevor ... if Ro-Ro gets his hands on a tramp-steamer ALL the folks down under will find out what wild n crazy guys really are !!! .. Boobala ..:thumbsup::banana::cool2:

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Here's the best picture we got of two old f#rts enjoying their day...

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To report a post just click the triangle in th lower left corner the tell them why you are reporting. I have only turned in for advertising. Good thing I don't have all the power right.:laughing::laughing:

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I am on several motorcycle forums that have a get together each year where members come in from all over the country/world. One group tends to be smaller 20 or so and may meet at someones house for the weekend but the other one is much larger up to several hundred people and it is all about the love of American motorcycles. I can this forum being very much like that where like minded people gather to share stories and the love of all things "lawn mowers". Glad to see that people are getting together and breaking bread with one another. I am looking forward to meeting a few of the members here on my 4-corners ride this coming summer.
Tom

No motorcycle in this picture is newer then 1985, many are hand build customs by the owner.

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BlazNT said:

To report a post just click the triangle in th lower left corner the tell them why you are reporting. I have only turned in for advertising. Good thing I don't have all the power right.:laughing::laughing:

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Chuck,

Thanks for that info, I found the little triangle with an exclamation point in it.. I doubt I would ever use it (except maybe for instances like root141) - because I am a believer in the old saying, "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!"

As far as you being omnipotent Chuck, you seem to be an upright sort of guy who would deal with things fairly and squarely... I'd trust ya... But then there is another old saying, "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." - Lord Acton 1887

Roger

Motorcycle Forum

Tom,

That sounds like a great deal of fun! Too bad that lawn mowers aren't designed for cross country travel! If they were we could arrange something similar! I can just see great lines of MTD variants in a multitude of bright colors, rumbling along the roadsides, keeping everything neat and trimmed as they motor along, all headed for the same destination, "THE GREAT LAWNMOWER RALLY" - - - But where would we go? . . . . It would have to be somewhere that has a giant lawn!

We will leave this idea open for discussion with the hope that out of all the folks that are following this thread, someone will suggest the perfect location. It amazes me that more people don't at least comment on here. After all, isn't that what a forum is for? A place for like minded individuals to voice their opinions regarding a fairly specific topic?? Admittedly the topics here tend to be rather broad, but what drew us all here is fairly consistent. Lawnmowers!

We encourage everyone viewing this thread to become engaged in this process and share their opinions and comments, it can only improve the experience...

"THE GREAT LAWNMOWER RALLY" - I love it! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Roger

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Well ROGER ...
There ya go AGAIN !!
Only mention MTD (Made To Disintegrate) as THEE machines to be riding upon, did you intentionally leave out MY brand of Murray because you regret joining the Navy instead of the Air Force and you are chastizing me about your incompetent mistake ...you need to cut a lawn with my Murray one time ... and feel the exhilaration of speed and agility of a finely crafted piece of machinery designed with a purposeful commitment to the comfortability of its rider coupled with superior handling characteristics ..actually it can't be explained...... it must be experienced ...

And where to have a BIG Meet ..?? TEXAS of course .. SUPER huge acres of grass .. good ol Texas Chili, warm days, cool nites, it's an open -carry state ( they do have some varmints ruunin aroun) we could watch the progress on the wall and probably help the locals round-up some of those longhorns then have a BEER N BBQ ... :laughing::laughing::laughing:

I've told ya's time n time agin .... I get like this ....:cool2::cool2::banana:

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Boobala said:

Well ROGER ...
There ya go AGAIN !!
Only mention MTD (Made To Disintegrate) as THEE machines to be riding upon, did you intentionally leave out MY brand of Murray (?)

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Geez Boo, you're a touchy old f@rt ain't-cha? As you are well aware MTD is a family name (progenitor) of various and sundry lawn tractors, almost too numerous to name! I thought that Murray was included in that family, am I incorrect? If so I apologize, but I did think I had included a whole squadron of lawn tractors all developed and built under the MTD umbrella... That was my intent, I certainly did not want to exclude you or your beloved Murray's from anything as important or World shaking as:
"THE GREAT LAWNMOWER RALLY"..

This event will be open to any and all riding lawnmowers capable of attending! Even my Yardman which doesn't even have a mower attached to it any longer will be welcomed! See how 'liberal' our requirements are? Certainly Murray's would not be excluded! They would be welcomed with open arms - (and as that old Rock & Roll song went - legs!)

Texas sounds great to me.. Maybe Tom can suggest just where in that great state we should congregate..

Roger

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Roger B said:

Geez Boo, you're a touchy old f@rt ain't-cha? As you are well aware MTD is a family name (progenitor) of various and sundry lawn tractors, almost too numerous to name! I thought that Murray was included in that family, am I incorrect? If so I apologize, but I did think I had included a whole squadron of lawn tractors all developed and built under the MTD umbrella... That was my intent, I certainly did not want to exclude you or your beloved Murray's from anything as important or World shaking as:
"THE GREAT LAWNMOWER RALLY"..

This event will be open to any and all riding lawnmowers capable of attending! Even my Yardman which doesn't even have a mower attached to it any longer will be welcomed! See how 'liberal' our requirements are? Certainly Murray's would not be excluded! They would be welcomed with open arms - (and as that old Rock & Roll song went - legs!)

Texas sounds great to me.. Maybe Tom can suggest just where in that great state we should congregate..

Roger

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Well that sounds OK ..BUT I think you should change the word Liberal to TOLERANT .. just sayin ... cause I saw on the News yesterday people breakin windows and burning cars and the news said they were Liberals doing that ! I don't think we even want to be mentioned in a sentence with folks like that ... just my opinion of course !! ..:wink::wink:

One more thing.. I heard in Texas .. they DON't ask a man how many Acres he's got ...they ask how many SQUARE MILES ya got ?? Thinkin it might be wise to bring a grinder to sharpen some blades ...best be prepared don't ya think ??
Happy Trails to Us ....

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Boobala said:

Well that sounds OK ..BUT I think you should change the word Liberal to TOLERANT .. just sayin .../QUOTE]

Boobala,

I agree and I apologize. I will strike the word that begins with "L" and ends with "L" from my vocabulary and replace it with "Tolerant"...

Trouble is, I ain't very - - tolerant, that is...

Roger

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MURRAY Tractor works!!

Boo-Boo,

Remember the Murray tractor that I posted pictures of a few posts ago and was wondering if it still worked? (It got submerged out here in the parking lot during Hurricane Hermione back in September.

Well, as I told you via email this AM we had another serious storm here last night and the entire complex got flooded a couple feet deep, including the Murray, again! When the waters receded it left all sorts of debris all over the parking lot and the maintenance guy is out there right now using the mower as a 'leaf-blower' to blow the palm fronds and other detritus off the macadam. So, long story short - the Murray does run!!! (Although I doubt the blades are much good from the sound of things!)

Roger

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Roger B said:

Boo-Boo,

Remember the Murray tractor that I posted pictures of a few posts ago and was wondering if it still worked? (It got submerged out here in the parking lot during Hurricane Hermione back in September.

Well, as I told you via email this AM we had another serious storm here last night and the entire complex got flooded a couple feet deep, including the Murray, again! When the waters receded it left all sorts of debris all over the parking lot and the maintenance guy is out there right now using the mower as a 'leaf-blower' to blow the palm fronds and other detritus off the macadam. So, long story short - the Murray does run!!! (Although I doubt the blades are much good from the sound of things!)

Roger

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Well kiss my go to HALL !! I ALMOST aint ready for that ...!!! GOOD ol Murrays.... BUT ..it's a Briggs engine thats 1/2
the winning combo !! Tell that maint. guy to keep his eye on that machine... if I get over that way... it may follow me home !!!

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Roger,

I can just see a parade of mowers moving down the high way at a top speed of 3-5 mph. Get lots of local news coverage out of the deal. How to get wherever the Great Meeting is being held you ask? When you ever been to a car race, mud buggy met or perhaps a"old time tractor" met those vehicles come on trailers or in the bed of a pick up truck. I would say most any place in Texas except the far west part of the state ( high desert with little grass) and the Austin area (that's were the "tolerant" people live and Deep East Texas as that is mostly pine forests.
Tom

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Boobala said:

Well kiss my go to HALL !! I ALMOST aint ready for that ...!!! GOOD ol Murrays.... BUT ..it's a Briggs engine thats 1/2
the winning combo !! Tell that maint. guy to keep his eye on that machine... if I get over that way... it may follow me home !!!

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Boo-Boo, just grab yerself a trailer and head West! I'll help ya load her up! :wink::wink:

Roger

THE GREAT LAWN TRACTOR RALLY

Tom,

Now that we've calmed Boo-Boo down and included his favorite Murray tractors, we can devote our time to selecting the proper location for this monumental event.

I have to admit that my exposure to Texas has been limited to passing from one side to the other via either I-40 or I-10. That doesn't really give you a good impression of what the State has to offer. Which is exactly why we have decided to choose the Gulf Coast of Texas as our winter hideout for 2018. We are going to be just North of Corpus Christi.

I have always heard good things about Bandera County, slightly North and West of San Antonio. What would you think of that area?

Roger

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Roger B said:

Tom,

Now that we've calmed Boo-Boo down and included his favorite Murray tractors, we can devote our time to selecting the proper location for this monumental event.

I have to admit that my exposure to Texas has been limited to passing from one side to the other via either I-40 or I-10. That doesn't really give you a good impression of what the State has to offer. Which is exactly why we have decided to choose the Gulf Coast of Texas as our winter hideout for 2018. We are going to be just North of Corpus Christi.

I have always heard good things about Bandera County, slightly North and West of San Antonio. What would you think of that area?

Roger

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I wanna see the wall !! ..From one end to the other !! ... I wanna "tag" it with Murray Logo's n American Flags !! .. ..:thumbsup:

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Roger,
That area is known as "The Hill Country" beautiful area but not a whole lot of grass area mostly scrub cedar, and thin soil. IF you are into incredible views and twisty roads that is the place for it. TONS of motorcycles on those roads. I will have to give it some though as to a good location for a gathering. The Corpus Christi area is pretty and the beaches are nicer then the ones around Houston.
Tom

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Pumper54 said:

Roger,
The Corpus Christi area is pretty and the beaches are nicer then the ones around Houston.
Tom

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Tom,

OK then, we will scrutinize the Corpus area when we get down there in 2018. That's a L-O-N-G ways from you though, right? We do plan to visit San Antonio at some point during those three months, that's closer to you if I remember correctly...

We are taking Boo-Boo and his lovely wife out for a boating adventure tomorrow. We'll be cruising a couple rivers, one that courses through untouched cypress swamps and real back country Florida. Ought to see some gators and plenty of turtles the size of hubcaps.. (Old-time full wheel sized hub caps!) The other river originates from a beautiful spring and the water is glass clear. Even where it is ten-feet deep it looks like the boat is floating in mid-air. So clear it seems weird to see fish floating by beneath you.

Then we'll hit one of two restaurants that have docking facilities available and grab a sumptuous lunch... Maybe shrimp etouffee or some other exotic Cajun dish with enough fire in it to light Boo-Boo up! Like the old Maine saying goes: "We'll have him goin' 'round, like a f@rt in a fryin' pan!"

Roger

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Roger B said:

Tom,

OK then, we will scrutinize the Corpus area when we get down there in 2018. That's a L-O-N-G ways from you though, right? We do plan to visit San Antonio at some point during those three months, that's closer to you if I remember correctly...

We are taking Boo-Boo and his lovely wife out for a boating adventure tomorrow. We'll be cruising a couple rivers, one that courses through untouched cypress swamps and real back country Florida. Ought to see some gators and plenty of turtles the size of hubcaps.. (Old-time full wheel sized hub caps!) The other river originates from a beautiful spring and the water is glass clear. Even where it is ten-feet deep it looks like the boat is floating in mid-air. So clear it seems weird to see fish floating by beneath you.

Then we'll hit one of two restaurants that have docking facilities available and grab a sumptuous lunch... Maybe shrimp etouffee or some other exotic Cajun dish with enough fire in it to light Boo-Boo up! Like the old Maine saying goes: "We'll have him goin' 'round, like a f@rt in a fryin' pan!"

Roger

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Hey Tom, Chuck ...if ya's don't hear anything from me by Thursday afternoon...... ya know Ro-Ro devised a way to do me in, and take my 3 murrays ... I know he SAYS he's an MTD guy BUT I know he really wants these Murrays ...stay on top of this now ... Boo- Boo ..

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Boobala said:

Hey Tom, Chuck ...if ya's don't hear anything from me by Thursday afternoon...... ya know Ro-Ro devised a way to do me in, and take my 3 murrays ... I know he SAYS he's an MTD guy BUT I know he really wants these Murrays ...stay on top of this now ... Boo- Boo ..

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Boo-Boo,

Ha! How do you know they aren't in on this with me?? Three Murrays - Three guys - split three ways!! You might be needing another safety net!!

Ro-ho-ho

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Roger B said:

Boo-Boo,

Ha! How do you know they aren't in on this with me?? Three Murrays - Three guys - split three ways!! You might be needing another safety net!!

Ro-ho-ho

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Ha ... G'day mate... yee fergot mee Aussie buddy Trevor ( bert ) .... av yee?? Seems Trev azz me bak covered ...got some of Croc Dundees tricks n surprises in case ya guys be plannin detrimental n dastardly acts upon me !! Right Trev .?? Trev...?? .... TREV..??? HEEYYY TRREVVV !! ???

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AND .............. heres that MTD TransAxle RE-call Information I told you about sometime long ago ...

.........http://wemakeitsafer.com/Cub-Cadet-MTD-Gold-and-Troy-Bilt-Lawn-Tractors-Recall-373052-854144

THeres more to come !! ...

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I already have a Murray, so you don't need to worry about me. :laughing:



Of course, it's not much of a mower compared to yours.

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Primer One-Two-Zero,

Welcome aboard! It's about time some of you guys that have been following this insanity chimed in! We need the input! We need more pictures! We need something that is related to lawnmowers to discuss! However, with that said, your lawn doesn't look very healthy! Looks more like typical Florida sand to me! If you have been mowing that spot... STOP!! It's good enough and you are going to ruin your blades if you keep it up!

You say you have Honda mowers.. we accept Honda mowers here, but it is nice that you have a Murray.. Boo-Boo will be happy..

Don't be a stranger! Y'all come back now, Y'hear?

Roger

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Boobala said:

Ha ... G'day mate... yee fergot mee Aussie buddy Trevor ( bert ) .... av yee?? Seems Trev azz me bak covered ...got some of Croc Dundees tricks n surprises in case ya guys be plannin detrimental n dastardly acts upon me !! Right Trev .?? Trev...?? .... TREV..??? HEEYYY TRREVVV !! ???

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Boo-Boo,

I would like to point out to "Bert", that it was not 'I' who blurted his name all over the page.. It was YOU!! You may now need to seek succor elsewhere...

Roge

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Have you seen my Murray. Im totally rebuilding it one day.


Now that is a Murray.

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Boobala said:

AND .............. heres that MTD TransAxle RE-call Information I told you about sometime long ago ...

.........http://wemakeitsafer.com/Cub-Cadet-MTD-Gold-and-Troy-Bilt-Lawn-Tractors-Recall-373052-854144

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Boobala,

If you research the recall here is what it says: "What is the problem?

A drive gear in the lawn tractor's hydrostatic transaxle can fail causing brake failure, posing a crash hazard to consumers.

First I would wish anyone with those tractors luck in ID'ing the transaxle as we have discovered that the model numbers were changed numerous times.

What puzzles me is what gear is it that would fail and cause a loss of brakes? The transaxles I dealt with have a disc brake that is attached to the shifter shaft. You lock that shaft up and the axle can't turn unless a main drive gear failed.. You think they have started making those gears out of plastic?? I gotta go look at my transaxle pictures again...

Roger

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Roger B said:

Boobala,

If you research the recall here is what it says: "What is the problem?

A drive gear in the lawn tractor's hydrostatic transaxle can fail causing brake failure, posing a crash hazard to consumers.

What puzzles me is what gear is it that would fail and cause a loss of brakes? The transaxles I dealt with have a disc brake that is attached to the shifter shaft. You lock that shaft up and the axle can't turn unless a main drive gear failed.. You think they have started making those gears out of plastic?? I gotta go look at my transaxle pictures again...

Roger

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Yeah, I was right! Look at the following picture and you can see the brake is on the shifter shaft and locking that shaft up locks up the pinion gear that drives the main axle. Maybe those hydro axles are dramatically different inside?? Anybody got any pictures of them?

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BlazNT said:

Have you seen my Murray. Im totally rebuilding it one day.
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Now that is a Murray.

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Chuck,

What year is it? Why would you rebuild it? It looks pretty darn good to me!

Roger

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1984 and I want a show tractor. This model is a full mini tractor. I love the looks as a survivor but it has some issue you can not see. I want to take it to parades and stuff now that I'm getting older I figure I could attach a trailer and drag my grandson around in it.

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BlazNT said:

Have you seen my Murray. Im totally rebuilding it one day.
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Now that is a Murray.

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Nice Machine Chuck ...... Whats under the hood ... looks like a B&S Vanguard 18 ...????
Also the larger rear wheels ... thats called a GARDEN TRACTOR ..?? and the smaller machines are the LAWN TRACTORS ....correct ...??? as long as I've been around these things I have never verified the facts .
thats it for the pics ..EH ..?? ya must have run outa film n flashbulbs ...( LOL ) ...Boobala

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18 HP Opposed Twin B&S
GT for Garden Tractor. In the US one of the thing you have to have to be a GT is a 25" tire in the rear. Model number is 84-39004
I have lots of pictures just have not located them yet to post. I will later today.
I paid $25.00 for the mower and it took all of 15 min to get it running and moving. Then everything went south. Belts that old do not like going round and round.

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Roger B said:

Primer One-Two-Zero,

Welcome aboard! It's about time some of you guys that have been following this insanity chimed in! We need the input! We need more pictures! We need something that is related to lawnmowers to discuss! However, with that said, your lawn doesn't look very healthy! Looks more like typical Florida sand to me! If you have been mowing that spot... STOP!! It's good enough and you are going to ruin your blades if you keep it up!

You say you have Honda mowers.. we accept Honda mowers here, but it is nice that you have a Murray.. Boo-Boo will be happy..

Don't be a stranger! Y'all come back now, Y'hear?

Roger

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That's not my lawn, it's a trail that runs past my shop. :laughing: I took the picture there because I didn't want to push the mower all the way to the front of the house to take a picture.

This is my lawn:



I looked through my photos, but couldn't find a picture that didn't have a mower in it. :wink: That's a Craftsman that I sold a few months ago.

Hondas are what I have the most of. Right now it's 4 Hondas, 3 Toros, 1 John Deere, 1 Troy-Bilt, 1 Murray, 1 Craftsman, and an MTD Pro. Some of them are complete, some aren't.

Here's my project thread for more pictures and info on the Murray: http://www.lawnmowerforum.com/showthread.php/40561-primerbulb120-s-Lawn-Mower-Repair-Thread

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Primer one-two-zero,

There! That's much better looking! Nice lawn! I checked out your project thread and have to admit that I wasted a push mower engine by hitting a root and bending the crank. Mine bent so badly that the engine would no longer start, even though I could still pull it over. I junked it and bought a new one with a 6.5 HP engine. (I figured that a larger engine would be better for "powering" through roots! . . . LOL

Roger

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Roger B said:

Primer one-two-zero,

There! That's much better looking! Nice lawn! I checked out your project thread and have to admit that I wasted a push mower engine by hitting a root and bending the crank. Mine bent so badly that the engine would no longer start, even though I could still pull it over. I junked it and bought a new one with a 6.5 HP engine. (I figured that a larger engine would be better for "powering" through roots! . . . LOL

Roger

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This one started and ran fine, but it vibrated so much it seemed ready to fly apart! :confused2: I hit a stump once with one of my Toros and stopped the engine dead. I straightened the crankshaft with a sledgehammer and continued to use the mower. Ran just fine.

If you want a powerful push mower engine, get a Honda GCV190. Supposed to be 6.5 HP but probably more like 8! It has a crazy amount of torque and will power through grass that would stall most mowers.

Speaking of Honda's, here's an interesting fact: The Honda GCV160 (4.5 HP and 160cc) is more powerful than a Briggs Quantum (6.5 HP and 190cc). I've used both in tall grass.

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Roger,
Any where in Texas is a long way away. LOL Actually I worked in the C.C. area years ago and I would make the drive home on some weekends, besides I would most likely bring my motorcycle as there are some great riding roads around there. I spent some time in FLA nad have been in some of those crystal clear rivers that looked to 100's of feet deep the water is so clear. Feed them well there my friend.
Tom

Roger B said:

Tom,

OK then, we will scrutinize the Corpus area when we get down there in 2018. That's a L-O-N-G ways from you though, right? We do plan to visit San Antonio at some point during those three months, that's closer to you if I remember correctly...

We are taking Boo-Boo and his lovely wife out for a boating adventure tomorrow. We'll be cruising a couple rivers, one that courses through untouched cypress swamps and real back country Florida. Ought to see some gators and plenty of turtles the size of hubcaps.. (Old-time full wheel sized hub caps!) The other river originates from a beautiful spring and the water is glass clear. Even where it is ten-feet deep it looks like the boat is floating in mid-air. So clear it seems weird to see fish floating by beneath you.

Then we'll hit one of two restaurants that have docking facilities available and grab a sumptuous lunch... Maybe shrimp etouffee or some other exotic Cajun dish with enough fire in it to light Boo-Boo up! Like the old Maine saying goes: "We'll have him goin' 'round, like a f@rt in a fryin' pan!"

Roger

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The Murray has a new engine:



Runs great now!

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Primer-Man,

Geez you live where there are sidewalks and everything! Pretty darn fancy!!

Something I've noticed about the 'regulars' on here. . . . I fixed that one lawn tractor and felt pretty smug about myself, whereas most of the rest of you guys aren't happy unless you have a garage full of lawn mowers you've either fixed or are waiting to be fixed!! When does lawn mower repair become a sickness like "Hoarding"? When you have three? Or four? Or more??? Do you end up like Jay Leno who can't decide which car to drive today?? . . . . Hhhmmmmm, let's see, will I mow with the Red Murray today? No, no, I feel gloomy, it's the black one for sure..

And then there is Bert!!! He not only worries about which mower to use, but which grease he should lubricate it with before venturing out with it!! . . . . "Let's see a well blended 10W-30 for the engine, . . . or maybe the straight 30 weight? . . . Hmmm, let's check the thermometer and the outside temp... Then it's on to my special mix of graphite and Vaseline for the plastic bushes in the wheels so they won't perish..... now where'd me sheila put that 5 pound tin o' the stuff???" :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Jus' call me "One Mower Roger" (And that isn't even right! I junked the mower deck!!) - How about NO Mower Roger!?!? (I'm thinking that's what admin would like to see!!) - As in "NO more Roger!!!"

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I only own 6 mowers and yes it is my sickness. But I love it.

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BlazNT said:

I only own 6 mowers and yes it is my sickness. But I love it.

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OK Chuck .... the cats out of the bag ... 6 MOWERS my "set-down" went by your place for a look see...

now how do you explain this ..... .....

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BlazNT said:

I only own 6 mowers and yes it is my sickness. But I love it.

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Chuck, Chuck, you are a sick, sick man. . . . I think you may need a mower intervention! It won't hurt.... A bunch of seemingly nice guys come to your house, then they get you out in the back yard where they have set up a BBQ and a very large cooler with your favorite beverages and while they ply you with food and drink and regale you with great stories, some of them quietly sneak in and remove all the 'extra' mowers you have... By the time you come to as to what has happened, it's all over and you are back to normal with just one mower, like 'regular' folks...

Now just send me your address and I'll set it all up.....

Doctor Roge

Hey! It's either that, or it's the 12 step Lawn Mowers Anonymous program and that is MUCH more painful... And you have to go for years and years! Sometimes for the rest of your life!

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Roger B said:

Chuck, Chuck, you are a sick, sick man. . . . I think you may need a mower intervention! It won't hurt.... A bunch of seemingly nice guys come to your house, then they get you out in the back yard where they have set up a BBQ and a very large cooler with your favorite beverages and while they ply you with food and drink and regale you with great stories, some of them quietly sneak in and remove all the 'extra' mowers you have... By the time you come to as to what has happened, it's all over and you are back to normal with just one mower, like 'regular' folks...

Now just send me your address and I'll set it all up.....

Doctor Roge

Hey! It's either that, or it's the 12 step Lawn Mowers Anonymous program and that is MUCH more painful... And you have to go for years and years! Sometimes for the rest of your life!

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Holy Moley Roge ......
I thought Chuck was the ONLY problem...Swung by Toms place on the way back from Chucks...YOU HAVE to SEE THIS
RE-HAB for these guys ... IS a MUST !!!

..... .....

These pics at Toms show another dilemma !!
I think Chuck & Tom may also be in colusion ........... I hear the mower bone-yards in Texas are emptyin out rather quickly as of late ..HMMmmmmmm...????

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You guys are killing me here. LMAO. OK just for the record I own 3 mowers, one Murray rider, my $20.00 "brush mower from hell" and the free new to me Honda, both walk behinds. My Bride owns 2 mowers a big Cub Cadet rider and Toro walk behind mower that we have had for many years and is still going strong.
That being said I have seen a couple of mower grave yards in the area here that I would love to wonder around in for a couple of hours.

Also what is that white stuff on the ground in the second picture Boobalo posted? I don't know what that stuff is. ;-)


Tom

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Roger B said:

Chuck, Chuck, you are a sick, sick man. . . . I think you may need a mower intervention! It won't hurt.... A bunch of seemingly nice guys come to your house, then they get you out in the back yard where they have set up a BBQ and a very large cooler with your favorite beverages and while they ply you with food and drink and regale you with great stories, some of them quietly sneak in and remove all the 'extra' mowers you have... By the time you come to as to what has happened, it's all over and you are back to normal with just one mower, like 'regular' folks...

Now just send me your address and I'll set it all up.....

Doctor Roge

Hey! It's either that, or it's the 12 step Lawn Mowers Anonymous program and that is MUCH more painful... And you have to go for years and years! Sometimes for the rest of your life!

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I better not let my wife see this post or she will post my address and I will be doomed to one mower. By the way I do not own a single MTD mower. Or a push mower.

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BlazNT said:

I better not let my wife see this post or she will post my address and I will be doomed to one mower. By the way I do not own a single MTD mower. Or a push mower.

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YEAH Roge .. We in for a long session these poor guys are in DENIAL ... wont even admit they have " the-problem "
I'll bet they have wives and children that go to bed cold and hungry ..!! Such a shame !! Ya Know Roge, I've seen
guys like them spend their childrens lunch-money on a Belleville washer for a mower blade !! Yeah Really !!! .:laughing:

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Roger B said:

Primer-Man,

Geez you live where there are sidewalks and everything! Pretty darn fancy!!

Something I've noticed about the 'regulars' on here. . . . I fixed that one lawn tractor and felt pretty smug about myself, whereas most of the rest of you guys aren't happy unless you have a garage full of lawn mowers you've either fixed or are waiting to be fixed!! When does lawn mower repair become a sickness like "Hoarding"? When you have three? Or four? Or more??? Do you end up like Jay Leno who can't decide which car to drive today?? . . . . Hhhmmmmm, let's see, will I mow with the Red Murray today? No, no, I feel gloomy, it's the black one for sure..

And then there is Bert!!! He not only worries about which mower to use, but which grease he should lubricate it with before venturing out with it!! . . . . "Let's see a well blended 10W-30 for the engine, . . . or maybe the straight 30 weight? . . . Hmmm, let's check the thermometer and the outside temp... Then it's on to my special mix of graphite and Vaseline for the plastic bushes in the wheels so they won't perish..... now where'd me sheila put that 5 pound tin o' the stuff???" :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Jus' call me "One Mower Roger" (And that isn't even right! I junked the mower deck!!) - How about NO Mower Roger!?!? (I'm thinking that's what admin would like to see!!) - As in "NO more Roger!!!"

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Here's a little trick: If you can't decide which mower to use, clean and wax all your mowers but one. Problem solved. :thumbsup::laughing:

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More pictures of my Murray 39004.

LMA - Swap Meets - Rallys - etc.....

Chuck-A-Roo,

I love that vintage machine!! I think it would be alright for you to keep at least that one,,, you know, just for the sake of nostalgia... but all the rest of 'em? They may have to go... What's yer wife's email addy? . . . I'll drop her a note and a info sheet from LMA... (Lawn Mowers Anonymous.) It's an easy 12 stepper... First step - you have to wash your hands real well and then clean all the grease out from under your finger nails.. . . . No more sniffin' gasoline... Just stuff like that, it's pretty easy really..

Where are all these mower grave yards? I'm with Tom, I want to spend a few hours just digging through all that machinery! Just think of all the goodies you might find!

I only know of one back home, but he charges for everything.. We want FREE!!!

How about we start a HUGE old lawnmower swap meet, like they do with antique automobiles? We could include that with the GREAT LAWN TRACTOR RALLY!!

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Pumper54 said:

Also what is that white stuff on the ground in the second picture Boobalo posted? I don't know what that stuff is. ;-) Tom

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Tom,

I'm thinking maybe soap suds? Maybe the guy was trying to clean up all his equipment and he used the wrong additive in his pressure washer which resulted in excessive soap suds... Could be.... right?

Seems like I've seen stuff like that in Maine, back before I fled the place for the winters... but I have some sort of a memory block and can't quite recall what it was...

Roger

One Man - One Mower

I'm really beginning to feel out of place here.. I have that one Yardman Lawn - Tractor, (can't all it a mower any more, no deck..) and I have a Craftsman push mower that I actually mow what lawn we have, with... None of you guys ever mention Craftsman, I have no idea who it is actually made by... and probably admitting that I have one is like admitting you have a fully restored Chevy Vega on some Hot Rod forum... You end up being the laughing stock... Oh well I'm gettin' used to that, Boo-Boo laughs at me 'cause I was a Bubblehead... When I tell him I was a deep-diving, death-defying, steely-eyed, bubblehead and he only laughs harder!!

Roger B

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All you followers of this thread... I want you to know how great Roge is doing in his RE-hab
he is a shining example of a man that has almost entirely forgotton about the hundreds of mowers he's owned ( hence the reference to junk-yards ) yes he's recovering nicely .. please keep up the great assistance you are giving ... providing Roge with an outlet (although it's his fantasy world ) that is essential to his complete recovery .. NOW onto Chuck n Tom ... and......???????

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Roger..
Getting back to your transaxle ... did you ever see this video ... also, have you ever determined what caused your issue in the first place ...??? ......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kG6UWl5At8

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Boobala said:

Roger..
Getting back to your transaxle ... did you ever see this video ... also, have you ever determined what caused your issue in the first place ...??? ......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kG6UWl5At8

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Boo,

Yes, I saw that video, you probably sent it to me half a dozen times already.. Although his transaxle and it's problem were similar to mine, there were differences. His upper housing had the entire end above the sleeve bearing break off, which indicates that there was far more upwards strain on the axle than the housing is designed to withstand. (Mine only split lengthwise.) Internally his differential is very different from mine, as was his forward and reverse shifting gear.. (Not that any of that makes any difference to the main problem of having the housing break.)

I do not know what caused mine to split, nor his to break off as I was not the operator of either machine when it occurred. Maybe the tractors were dropped onto their wheels from some height, or something similar to that, I can only guess...

Notice it was the 'long' end of the transaxle that failed in both cases. As the axles are separate inside the differential, each one could move up and down independently if it were not for the sleeve bearings at the outer ends of the shafts and of course all that supports each sleeve bearing is the bolted together transaxle casing. Obviously some force greater than they were designed to handle came into play and the cast aluminum failed under the strain. (See picture.)

Roger

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Boobala said:

All you followers of this thread... I want you to know how great Roge is doing in his RE-hab
he is a shining example of a man that has almost entirely forgotton about the hundreds of mowers he's owned ( hence the reference to junk-yards )

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Boo-Boo!!!! I thought YOU were supposed to be my sponsor!! Yet it was YOU that posted pictures of lawn tractor and lawn mower graveyards!! I very nearly suffered a relapse at the sight of all those poor unloved machines, just waiting for someone with a decent set of wrenches to come along and save them!! And here I am nearly 1,500 miles away from my shop, with nothing more than my emergency tool box at my disposal!! I was distraught with anguish!! Tears were rolling down my wrinkled cheeks and into my gray beard.... Finally my better half had to slam the laptop shut (and she caught two of my fingers in the process) and send me out in the boat to recover... Thank heavens for Yamaha's! Just touch the key and it roars to life and the Scout is up on a plane and flying down the waterway... I had to run down two Boston Whalers and leave them in a cloud of spray before my breathing finally returned to Normal!!

No more pictures of graveyards!! OK???

Roger

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Roger B said:

Chuck-A-Roo,

I love that vintage machine!! I think it would be alright for you to keep at least that one,,, you know, just for the sake of nostalgia... but all the rest of 'em? They may have to go... What's yer wife's email addy? . . . I'll drop her a note and a info sheet from LMA... (Lawn Mowers Anonymous.) It's an easy 12 stepper... First step - you have to wash your hands real well and then clean all the grease out from under your finger nails.. . . . No more sniffin' gasoline... Just stuff like that, it's pretty easy really..

Where are all these mower grave yards? I'm with Tom, I want to spend a few hours just digging through all that machinery! Just think of all the goodies you might find!

I only know of one back home, but he charges for everything.. We want FREE!!!

How about we start a HUGE old lawnmower swap meet, like they do with antique automobiles? We could include that with the GREAT LAWN TRACTOR RALLY!!

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I have the self proclaimed largest Lawnmower boneyard in the US just 15 miles from my house.
http://www.haraldonline.com/

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BlazNT said:

I have the self proclaimed largest Lawnmower boneyard in the US just 15 miles from my house.
http://www.haraldonline.com/

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SO Chuck .....tell us again, how much do you charge to let people camp-out in your back-yard per day ...??
I have had fantasies of being in Haralds for a an endless day ! I think you just made a big oops... Roger, Tom, ...pack your bags we have found Valhalla !!! Right in Chucks back-yard... OOoooooeeee !!!!

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bertsmobile1 said:

Murray is now made in China.
Not sure if under license or if brand name has been sold .
The mowers are direct copies of the pre B & S Murray.

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Briggs purchased the assets in bankruptcy court in 2005, as part of that sale was not allowed to use the Murray name for 5 years. That is were the Brute branded products originated from. In 2010 the Murray name was licensed to MTD and Husqvarna. Husqvarna makes the low end push mowers, and MTD makes the high end push mowers, the rider, and the trimmers sold through Walmart. The walk behind and ride on products must use Briggs engines as required by their contracts.

So the question becomes do you own a Murray/Murray, Husqvarna/Murray or MTD/Murray.

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Boobala said:

SO Chuck .....tell us again, how much do you charge to let people camp-out in your back-yard per day ...??
I have had fantasies of being in Haralds for a an endless day ! I think you just made a big oops... Roger, Tom, ...pack your bags we have found Valhalla !!! Right in Chucks back-yard... OOoooooeeee !!!!

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Oh did I forget to mention my family owns 3 Hotels. The bate and switch is complete.:laughing:

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BlazNT said:

I have the self proclaimed largest Lawnmower boneyard in the US just 15 miles from my house.
http://www.haraldonline.com/

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CHUCK!!!

How do you stand it? I mean do you live in Harald's backyard,or what?

Can we include a day at Harald's as part of THE GREAT LAWN TRACTOR RALLY"?

We'd like to rent every room you have in all three hotels, (assuming they are near Harald's) for the entire event!

We were thinking of holding "THE RALLY" in Texas, but we are very flexible! Missouri would work fine!

Roger

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Roger B said:

CHUCK!!!

How do you stand it? I mean do you live in Harald's backyard,or what?

Can we include a day at Harald's as part of THE GREAT LAWN TRACTOR RALLY"?

We'd like to rent every room you have in all three hotels, (assuming they are near Harald's) for the entire event!

We were thinking of holding "THE RALLY" in Texas, but we are very flexible! Missouri would work fine!

Roger

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SORRY Tom ... looks like a CHANGE in plans... HARALDS up in MISERY with Chuck first

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Now wait a minute Boo, we don't want to cut Tom, OR Texas out, this is going to be an on-going, all-inclusive, RALLY. The only things between Texas and Missouri are Arkansas or Oklahoma depending which way you go! Everyone from the East can meet in Missouri and everyone from the West can meet in Texas - - -

Wait a minute!....... Then what in he!! are we gonna do, that ain't gonna work... let me see . . . . . .

Boo, we're gonna need a recreation director, you want the job? I know on cruise ships the Rec Director is usually a nice lookin' woman and . . .. that, - you ain't, . . but we need someone who has imagination and drive and you got both of them in spades... how about designing two routes for us, one headed West from the East and one headed East from the West with lots of stops along the way, maybe with diversions to the North and South and then we could loop up (or down) and around and end up in - - - Where? That's the whole problem, isn't it? Man I'm gittin' dizzy jus' thinkin' 'bout it... We need a geography major or sumpthin'...

Roge

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The Murray is now finished:





:thumbsup:

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primerbulb120 said:

The Murray is now finished:





:thumbsup:

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HOLEY MOLEY ... now thats right on KICK -***** ... that is a good lookin piece of work !! ..:thumbsup:..:thumbsup:..:thumbsup:

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Boobala said:

SORRY Tom ... looks like a CHANGE in plans... HARALDS up in MISERY with Chuck first

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607 miles, piece of cake for me on my motorcycle, hell I have friends along the way so I could take my time and enjoy the ride. I would ride my bike because then I could not load up the truck with "stuff" to haul back. ;-)

Tom

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primerbulb120,

That is one sweet looking machine.
Tom

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Primer-Man,

That is a sweet piece of work! Nice job!!

Roger

HARALD'S LAWN TRACTOR GRAVEYARD

Be forewarned lawn mower enthusiasts! Watching this video will either make you cry or grab your pickup truck and head to Harald's!!

This is painful to see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkr90AmIg_4

When you get to YouTube you will discover there are a dozen or more similar videos showing lawnmower graveyards.. It is sad, but on the other hand it offers those of us interested in saving old mowers a valuable source of parts if not entire machines!

Roge B

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Roger B said:

Be forewarned lawn mower enthusiasts! Watching this video will either make you cry or grab your pickup truck and head to Harald's!!

This is painful to see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkr90AmIg_4

Roge B

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The really sad part is ... you look at this video & you see mostly OLDER machines ... of the days gone by, when these things were built so much better. Of course there are many more " BONE -YARDS " across
our country and ALL of this great old "iron" sits out there ...rusting away into worthless rusted powder
never to be loved .... like we we love em... soon, when there is nothing in the yards, but the junk-mowers of cheap pot-metal & plastic they build these days ..... we will be the bygone generation of those that cared enough to resurrect & preserve these GREAT machines that once were !!! Boo-Hoo WAaaah.. :frown:

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Boobala said:

The really sad part is we will be the bygone generation of those that cared enough to resurrect & preserve these GREAT machines that once were !!! Boo-Hoo WAaaah.. :frown:

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Hang in there Boo-Boo... We're all doing our level headed best to resurrect the machines we come across! Everyone is doing the best they can.. I saw several of the old Ford LGT tractors and I've always wanted one of those. Unfortunately, even though they have a great little diesel engine, they didn't have a PTO, so there isn't much you could do with them except haul stuff around. I almost bought one once, but my better half pointed out the fact that I couldn't do much more than haul a trailer with it.

Do you know of any tractor graveyards around here?

Roger

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Roger B said:

CHUCK!!!

How do you stand it? I mean do you live in Harald's backyard,or what?

Can we include a day at Harald's as part of THE GREAT LAWN TRACTOR RALLY"?

We'd like to rent every room you have in all three hotels, (assuming they are near Harald's) for the entire event!

We were thinking of holding "THE RALLY" in Texas, but we are very flexible! Missouri would work fine!

Roger

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I have never been to Harald's. I'm afraid of the money I would spend. I could buy the whole place. I mean I want.to purchase the business then I would have my sickness finally taken care of. Oh the time I could spend in the bone yard.

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BlazNT said:

I have never been to Harald's. I'm afraid of the money I would spend. I could buy the whole place. I mean I want.to purchase the business then I would have my sickness finally taken care of. Oh the time I could spend in the bone yard.

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Chuck,

I know what you mean! Just think of all the machines and all the parts you'd have available to you! Still it makes all of us miserable to see all that going to waste..

Roger

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Roger B said:

Hang in there Boo-Boo... We're all doing our level headed best to resurrect the machines we come across! Everyone is doing the best they can.. I saw several of the old Ford LGT tractors and I've always wanted one of those. Unfortunately, even though they have a great little diesel engine, they didn't have a PTO, so there isn't much you could do with them except haul stuff around. I almost bought one once, but my better half pointed out the fact that I couldn't do much more than haul a trailer with it.

Do you know of any tractor graveyards around here?

Roger

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I have a listing of some ... I will post a list of what I have soon.. have to get everything lined-up... to put
in a picture type post...

It would be a REALLY great thing if ALL members would post the NAME & ADDRESS of ANY
mower " bone-yards " they know of ..so we could compile a list ..state by state or at least in an acceptable size area ( ie. as within 50 mile radius of ?? ) NOW.. would'nt that be a great accomplishment.....???? ...:cool2::banana:

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OK you guys...
I did it !! .....Go check out my NEW post located in ..Small Engine& Mower Repair Forum .

TITLE: ( Mower,Junk ,Salvage or Scrap )

Hope I got the ball rolling !! ...:smile: ..Boobala

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Boobala said:

OK you guys...
I did it !! .....Go check out my NEW post located in ..Small Engine& Mower Repair Forum .

TITLE: ( Mower,Junk ,Salvage or Scrap )

Hope I got the ball rolling !! ...:smile: ..Boobala

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Done and Done!!!

Roge

"REAL" Tractors

Boo-Boo got me back into thinking about "real" tractors, which is what eventually got me into lawn tractors.. Let's face it, most of us don't have the acreage that would require a "Real" tractor and those of us who are sensible enough - (or, as in my case have a better-half, who is sensible enough) to realize that sometimes, 'small' IS better!

Still I have always loved the old "N" Series Ford tractors and during the time I was researching them I ran into this fellows website: http://oldfordtractors.com/

If you have any interest in old Fords, I encourage you to check this guy out. He does an exemplary job of restoring machinery. I found his work inspiring enough to tackle several mechanical jobs that I might otherwise have shied away from. Enjoy......

Roger B