Nice chains! Do you remember what brand they are and what they cost.I really don't rely on the ventrac full time.Just do little stuff around the house too small for my trucks.I have a plowing business and multiple trucks loader skid steer..Plowing with a 10ft plow on the truck, is 5x faster than the ventrac and way warmer.. I was just cleaning that spot over the septic tank to make room for more snow..