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I just purchased a Husqvarna Crown series snowblower. Could not be happier with my purchase, including the local dealer. Now I want to upgrade my 20 year old Toro Recycler. Looking for a self propelled, my back gives out with the straight push behind. Is there a Husqvarna that can compete with the high end Toros/Hondas? If not it looks like the Honda HRX are a bit ahead of the Toro Super Baggers. Love the old Toro but my impression is that I will be dissapointed comparing my 20 year old to a new one, quality wise

kman said:

I just purchased a Husqvarna Crown series snowblower. Could not be happier with my purchase, including the local dealer. Now I want to upgrade my 20 year old Toro Recycler. Looking for a self propelled, my back gives out with the straight push behind. Is there a Husqvarna that can compete with the high end Toros/Hondas? If not it looks like the Honda HRX are a bit ahead of the Toro Super Baggers. Love the old Toro but my impression is that I will be dissapointed comparing my 20 year old to a new one, quality wise

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I would definitely get a Honda HRX217HYA! Best mower ever! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

lawn mower fanatic said:

I would definitely get a Honda HRX217HYA! Best mower ever! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

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I take it the Husqvarnas are out of the running?

Toro will stand up to the Honda.

kman said:

I take it the Husqvarnas are out of the running?

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Yeah, in my opinion the top ones are Honda and Toro, but not Husqvarna.

Rivets said:

Toro will stand up to the Honda.

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Toro is close, but I feel that the new Hondas have more features. Also, you don't really hear of many complaints about Honda engines. But you do sometimes with Toro.
Don't get me wrong, Toro makes good mowers, but I am a Honda guy. :thumbsup:

For a home owner try a Husqvarna on mowers direct it is like 399 but looks like a great mower :thumbsup: Honda and toro are great too also look at cubcudect and arien all are great brands

K-Pro-Mowing said:

For a home owner try a Husqvarna on mowers direct it is like 399 but looks like a great mower :thumbsup: Honda and toro are great too also look at cubcudect and arien all are great brands

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I am not saying Ariens would be my first choice, but if you decide you like Ariens look at these mowers:
The Pro 21 Walk-Behind: this is more heavy-duty than other Ariens 21 in. mowers.

The Classic LM 21 SW: this is not as heavy-duty as the Pro 21, but it does have front swivel caster wheels to make turning easier.

Other 21 in. mowers by Ariens include the Razor and Classic LM 21.

I would still recommend Honda or Toro, but as K-Pro-Mowing said, either Husqvarna, Cub Cadet, or Ariens would be OK.

Ariens Website: Snow Blowers, Zero Turn Mowers, Riding Lawn Tractors - ARIENS
Cub Cadet Website: http://www.cubcadet.com/equipment/cubcadet/walk-behind-mowers
Husqvarna Website: http://www.husqvarna.com/us/products/lawn-mowers/husqvarna-lawn-mowers-for-homeowners/
Honda Website: http://powerequipment.honda.com/lawn-mowers
Toro Website: http://www.toro.com/en-us/pages/default.aspx

Thanks for all the advice. I was hoping the Husqvarna was a Honda clone with a honda engine at less than half price. I think the versamow function on the honda along with the bigger engine will tip me that way. I'm planning on having my new mower for another 20 years so cost is not that significant

kman said:

Thanks for all the advice. I was hoping the Husqvarna was a Honda clone with a honda engine at less than half price. I think the versamow function on the honda along with the bigger engine will tip me that way. I'm planning on having my new mower for another 20 years so cost is not that significant

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I love the Veramow system on my Honda---mulch, bag, rear-discharge, or shred leaves. Along with any combo of mulching/bagging if you choose the Honda HRX's. I think if you buy a Honda it will definitely last 20 years! :thumbsup:

kman said:

Thanks for all the advice. I was hoping the Husqvarna was a Honda clone with a honda engine at less than half price. I think the versamow function on the honda along with the bigger engine will tip me that way. I'm planning on having my new mower for another 20 years so cost is not that significant

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You may want to look at the LM Series Gravely. The LM21S and LM21SW both come with the FJ180V 6Hp Kawasaki engine. They sell for $549.00 not that I'm a Gravely Fan but I am a Kawasaki Fan.
Gravely Classic LM Series Lawn Mower

Ric said:

You may want to look at the LM Series Gravely. The LM21S and LM21SW both come with the FJ180V 6Hp Kawasaki engine. They sell for $549.00 not that I'm a Gravely Fan but I am a Kawasaki Fan.
Gravely Classic LM Series Lawn Mower

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The Gravely with the front swivel caster wheels is like the exact same thing as the Ariens I posted in post #8 (the 2nd picture). Another example of one large company making the same mower and painting it a different color and having a different sticker. :thumbdown:

Husqvarna make a rear wheel drive one with a Honda engine they about 400 to 500$ depending where u get them at.

K-Pro-Mowing said:

Husqvarna make a rear wheel drive one with a Honda engine they about 400 to 500$ depending where u get them at.

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And now in 2013 there is an AWD Husqvarna mower!

Lawn Mower Fanatic, I just decided on the Honda & you tell me there is an all wheel drive Husqvarna! I still have 3 feet of snow on the ground here in Saskatchewan so I guess I can wait for some feedback on the 4 wheel drive

kman said:

Lawn Mower Fanatic, I just decided on the Honda & you tell me there is an all wheel drive Husqvarna! I still have 3 feet of snow on the ground here in Saskatchewan so I guess I can wait for some feedback on the 4 wheel drive

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haha:laughing: I would personally choose the Honda. I don't think the Husqvarna has as many features (other than the AWD) as the Honda. And it might be awhile for some reviews on the Husqvarna, considering the mower came out like 3 days ago!

In Canada the Husqvarna will be 1/2 the price of the Honda. Again I'm making a 20 year purchase, but I still want to be real

kman said:

In Canada the Husqvarna will be 1/2 the price of the Honda. Again I'm making a 20 year purchase, but I still want to be real

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I'm not saying to judge a book by its cover, but a $800 mower should last longer than a $400 mower. But I also believe any mower will last if you maintain it well.

The AWD very cool

K-Pro-Mowing said:

Husqvarna make a rear wheel drive one with a Honda engine they about 400 to 500$ depending where u get them at.

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Yes it 's a the Honda but it's that GCV 160 engine and it doesn't work that great. You want the 190cc if you go with Honda.

Well the AWD Husq wont work in Scotland.
It quotes at the end of the video not to work on west grass or steep slopes. :laughing::biggrin:

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Yes it 's a the Honda but it's that GCV 160 engine and it doesn't work that great. You want the 190cc if you go with Honda.

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Yes, that's why I like my Honda HRX217HYA. The HRX series is the only one by Honda with the GCV190 engine. :thumbsup:

pugaltitude said:

Well the AWD Husq wont work in Scotland.
It quotes at the end of the video not to work on west grass or steep slopes. :laughing::biggrin:

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Yes it does. Read the whole thing, It says always mow across slopes, never up and down not to work on wet grass or on excessively steep slopes. That's for your safety
not that the mower isn't capable of mowing inclines. They tell you the same thing with all mowers and for the ZTR never to mow any more than 15 degree slopes because it's a safety issue and the company's have to put that in all there operating manuals to cover themselves.

says on the video its a Honda 190 cc engine on the Husqvarna AWD. So it has the big Honda engine, the extra cut behind the front wheel, Bag or mulch, AWD & 1/2 the price of the Honda (in Canada at least) It looks to me like Husqvarna is trying to compete at least

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says on the video its a Honda 190 cc engine on the Husqvarna AWD. So it has the big Honda engine, the extra cut behind the front wheel, Bag or mulch, AWD & 1/2 the price of the Honda (in Canada at least) It looks to me like Husqvarna is trying to compete at least

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Do you know which one you are leaning towards yet?

The Honda dealer & the Husqvarna dealer are about a block apart in my city so when the AWD comes in I will do a hands on look at both. I have a dead flat lawn so the Versamow interests me more than the AWD but it may come down to which feels best, I think I.m leaning Honda but I'll keep an open mind

kman said:

The Honda dealer & the Husqvarna dealer are about a block apart in my city so when the AWD comes in I will do a hands on look at both. I have a dead flat lawn so the Versamow interests me more than the AWD but it may come down to which feels best, I think I.m leaning Honda but I'll keep an open mind

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Yeah you really wouldn't need the AWD, but as you said, pick the one that feels the best. I love the Honda's Versamow System with the Clip Director because say you want to mulch the grass, but it's too long, you can do half-and-half, so you don't have ugly grass clumps in your yard but you get the benefits of mulching! :thumbsup:

Hmmm. I think I would wait and see how many bugs need to be worked out on the new AWD. Might be a long wait on the new parts that are maybe not made yet somewhere in China, or Mexico, or are just not yet in stock wherever they may be made.

I just bought a HRX217HYA from Home Depot...and by just, I mean yesterday. Here is a little tip that may or may not work, thankfully it did for me. HD takes competitor coups as I am sure you may know. Well, I thought, what the hell, and tried a Harbor Freight 20% off (I had a Lowes 10% off moving coup for backup), and they actually took it. Before tax, I spent $559.20 for the HRX217HYA. I took it out of the box, and she has to be the sexyist thing....next to my wife?

Anyway, I really dont want to put gas in it and start it up since it is a good 2-2.5 months away from being used. Hell, the look on the HD employee face when I asked them to get a mower down (from the top shelf none the less) even made me feel crazy.

baratta34 said:

I just bought a HRX217HYA from Home Depot...and by just, I mean yesterday. Here is a little tip that may or may not work, thankfully it did for me. HD takes competitor coups as I am sure you may know. Well, I thought, what the hell, and tried a Harbor Freight 20% off (I had a Lowes 10% off moving coup for backup), and they actually took it. Before tax, I spent $559.20 for the HRX217HYA. I took it out of the box, and she has to be the sexyist thing....next to my wife?

Anyway, I really dont want to put gas in it and start it up since it is a good 2-2.5 months away from being used. Hell, the look on the HD employee face when I asked them to get a mower down (from the top shelf none the less) even made me feel crazy.

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Will u take a pic please

Of the receipt? or what?

baratta34 said:

Of the receipt? or what?

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Of the mower or its box if not open

This isnt going to get HD in trouble or anything, is it?

baratta34 said:

This isnt going to get HD in trouble or anything, is it?

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No and when u use it let us know how everything goes :thumbsup::smile:

K-Pro-Mowing said:

No and when u use it let us know how everything goes :thumbsup::smile:

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Yes, I would love to hear how you like your mower. It's the best choice I ever made! :thumbsup:

I know this is a little off topic but we have had record snowfalls in Saskatchewan this year & the Husqvarna has performed flawlessly. The 248cc Briggs & Stratton engine starts on half a pull every time. I have yet to use the electric start. I think I've turned big snowfalls from drudgery to fun! How did I go for 52 years without a snowblower?

kman said:

I know this is a little off topic but we have had record snowfalls in Saskatchewan this year & the Husqvarna has performed flawlessly. The 248cc Briggs & Stratton engine starts on half a pull every time. I have yet to use the electric start. I think I've turned big snowfalls from drudgery to fun! How did I go for 52 years without a snowblower?

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Yeah I know, ever since I bought my snowblower I wonder the same thing.

pulled the trigger on the Honda today. Local dealer was fantastic (although not open Saturday when I first went) will give a rundown when the snow goes

you can put Husqvarna in the running...my steel mill makes the steel for them

After buying the Honda,(started it and took a dry run but the grass hasn't started growing here yet!) I saw the Husqvarna at Lowes for $300 less with what looks like the same 190 cc Honda engine. Hope the versamow and tranny make up the difference

kman said:

After buying the Honda,(started it and took a dry run but the grass hasn't started growing here yet!) I saw the Husqvarna at Lowes for $300 less with what looks like the same 190 cc Honda engine. Hope the versamow and tranny make up the difference

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I think it will. Can't wait to hear what you think of it. :thumbsup:

Okay, I've mowed the lawn 3 times with the Honda, here are my first impressions:
Starts easy, once the fuel is turned on!
The handle is genius, it folds down completely and locks inplace at three different heights, I found a comfortable height and I'm 6' 4"
The wheels are solid and the height adjustment is great. Others have argued it needs a single lever but that is incorrect, a single lever has more parts and doesn't allow for different heights which would negate some of this mowers features
It took me 2 times to get the hang of the clutch and the drive levers, now that I know the drive lever is narrower than the blade clutch lever it is easy to stagger my hands & take one off at the end of each run
The drive is very nice I adjusted it to go as fast as I can walk & it still has some left. It cuts my lawn in almost half time
I was not expecting the quality of the cut. I've only mulched so far but it seems to really lift the grass and leave nothing behind. It mulched leaves from last fall left over from the early snowfall

Not sure if you can tell but I LOVE THIS LAWNMOWER! EXCEEDS MY EXPECTATIONS