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How to disable seat switch on Yard Machine 7 speed shift on the go

#1

R

rkode

Anyone know how to disable the seat switch ?
I use this machine in the woods and I am constantly off and on the seat moving tree parts (branches and stuff) out of the way of the mower.
I'm gonna wear out the starter.
I am unable to find anything specific on You Tube.

I have a Model : LT5 Lawn Tractor.
http://www.mtdparts.com/equipment/mtdparts/yard-machines-riding-mower-13an772g729

Thanks in advance.


#2

BlazNT

BlazNT

Do not turn off the mower set the break. Now you wont ware out the starter.


#3

R

rkode

Thanks for the reply.

It seems that, as soon as I get my big bazoo off the seat, the engine will shut itself off.
Even if I put it in neutral and set the brake first.

By the way, this is a model 13AN772G729.
http://www.mtdparts.com/equipment/mtdparts/yard-machines-riding-mower-13an772g729

Ray in Wisconsin


#4

BlazNT

BlazNT

Ok so the seat switch is working and either the brake/clutch or the neutral switch is not. The engine will always shut down if PTO in engaged. So with that do you have an electrical tester?


#5

Boobala

Boobala

The REAL reason NOBODY with common sense ... is willing to tell you how to "defeat" or "bypass"
the seat safety sw. ( or any safety device ) is we don't want a liability issue for this site ... or ourselves.
Those safety devices were installed for specific reasons ... SHEET HAPPENS .. with sometimes
FATAL results . Trying to "help you" may lead to you ...or another ( perhaps a young child ) in just a split second of ignorance or carelessness ... losing body parts or even a life !! MUCH,MUCH ,
easier to live with things that are a PITA than agonizing a lifetime over a few minutes of convenience. WE want to hear FROM you ......NOT ABOUT you !!! STAY SAFE !! :thumbsup:


#6

Boobala

Boobala

Ok so the seat switch is working and either the brake/clutch or the neutral switch is not. The engine will always shut down if PTO in engaged. So with that do you have an electrical tester?

CAREFUL Blaz .... DON'T enter the "mine-field".....


#7

R

rkode

Ok so the seat switch is working and either the brake/clutch or the neutral switch is not. The engine will always shut down if PTO in engaged. So with that do you have an electrical tester?

I do.
I do have an electrical tester.
I'd be grateful for your ideas as to how I should test things.

As an aside (maybe.).

I turn the Lawn Machine off.
Put it into neutral.
Step on the clutch and move the 7 speed selector out of park.
After that, I can't physically push the rider forward or backward.
It's as if the transmission is still engaged.

This is an issue if the engine dies and I need to push the mower up onto my trailer so I might take it somewhere to be services.

I wonder if both of these issues are related ?

Ray in Wisconsin


#8

R

rkode

The REAL reason NOBODY with common sense ... is willing to tell you how to "defeat" or "bypass"
the seat safety sw. ( or any safety device ) is we don't want a liability issue for this site ... or ourselves.
Those safety devices were installed for specific reasons ... SHEET HAPPENS .. with sometimes
FATAL results . Trying to "help you" may lead to you ...or another ( perhaps a young child ) in just a split second of ignorance or carelessness ... losing body parts or even a life !! MUCH,MUCH ,
easier to live with things that are a PITA than agonizing a lifetime over a few minutes of convenience. WE want to hear FROM you ......NOT ABOUT you !!! STAY SAFE !! :thumbsup:

Thanks for replying to my post.

THAT makes absolute sense of course.

I don't need to disable the seat switch.
It was the only thing I could think of that would allow me to get off the mower without needing to restart the engine when re-mounting it.
BlazNT described a procedure which would work for me.

At the time of my original post, I didn't realize that the mower would allow such a thing.
And it still doesn't.
But it sounds like my mower thinks the PTO is still engaged after putting it is neutral and setting it to park.
Now I'm engaged in trying to figure out why the mower thinks this is so and then fix that.
Once that is fixed, I wont have an interest in disabling anything.

Ray in Wisconsin


#9

I

ILENGINE

Sometimes the park position will lock the parking brake were it won't roll, but not down far enough to engage the clutch safety switch. Push the brake pedal down and lock it in the park position, and without touching the pedal try to see if it will crank. If not then the pedal isn't down far enough to trigger the switch, and also will not allow the mower to run with you off the seat.


#10

R

rkode

Thanks for the reply.

Here's what I did.

Place the transmission in neutral.
Push the peddle all the way down and hold it there.
Move the speed/park selector out of park to some speed. (I tried several different speed selections.)
Turn the key to start.
The engine does start.

I then repeated the above steps but this time with the transmission in forward rather than neutral.
With the same results. The engine started.

Then, I .....

Set the speed/park selector to "park".
Set the transmission to neutral.
If I don't press the peddle, the engine will not start. (Regardless of if the transmission is in forward, neutral or reverse.)
If I do press the peddle, the engine will start. (Regardless of if the transmission is in forward, neutral or reverse.)

I hope my ramblings make sense.

Ray in Wisconsin


#11

B

bertsmobile1

Yes that is correct however what you were asked to do was to set the parking brake , not hold it down with your foot.
So try that and see if it still cranks.
The switch has a plunger that gets broken, it is plastic and some go in adjustable slots so go out of position and sometimes the mounting tabs just break off.


#12

M

michigan_Rapter sd

I use to think it was kind of funny grandpa had a reach tool on his mower - now I carry one all the time for small twigs, stones etc without getting off the mower

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Medline-...ategy=PWVUB&visitor_id=PhMDVFtvILGJNTDAPis6qk


#13

R

rkode

I use to think it was kind of funny grandpa had a reach tool on his mower - now I carry one all the time for small twigs, stones etc without getting off the mower

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Medline-...ategy=PWVUB&visitor_id=PhMDVFtvILGJNTDAPis6qk


What a GREAT idea.
Based on your post, I just ordered one from Sam Walton's kids.
Thanks for sharing.

Ray in WIsconsin


#14

M

michigan_Rapter sd

What a GREAT idea.
Based on your post, I just ordered one from Sam Walton's kids.
Thanks for sharing.

Ray in WIsconsin

Ray it is really surprising the size of limbs you can pick up with that - I sit them on my lap till the next round by the fire pit unless they are too long to go thru the gate :)

as with windows program there is usually at least 3 ways to do the same thing - some times it just takes thinking outside of the box


#15

R

rkode

Yes that is correct however what you were asked to do was to set the parking brake , not hold it down with your foot.
So try that and see if it still cranks.
The switch has a plunger that gets broken, it is plastic and some go in adjustable slots so go out of position and sometimes the mounting tabs just break off.

Thanks for the reply.

Since my last post, I took my rider back to the place I purchased it from. (They guarantee the machines they sell for 90 days from date of purchase.)
A not so little Mom and Pop shop that rebuilds and refurbishes riders and such.
They have a great reputation and are really nice folks.

I demonstrated my issues and they acknowledged the rider should NOT be experiencing them.
I was told they knew exactly the cause and would be able to address it this week.

We shall see.

I thank everyone who responded to my request for help.

Ray in Wisconsin


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