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Deutz-Allis 613H (Simplicity clone) what hydro fluid to use?

#1

Gorrillasnot

Gorrillasnot

Would a UTF from tractor supply or ruralking be ok to use? I've hear of people using Type F in some of these tractors..I've also heard 20w motor oil works but I've never seen straight 20w.
The dealer wants $20 a quart for their recommended simplity brand fluid.

what would be a good suitable alternative?

thanks


#2

BlazNT

BlazNT

Simplicity does not make the hydros.
Hydro gear uses 20w 50. What hydros do you have? It will have a tag on the hydro.


#3

BlazNT

BlazNT

Forgot to mention do not use auto trans mission fluid ever!


#4

Gorrillasnot

Gorrillasnot

According to tractordata.com it uses the Eaton Model 7.
I found a manual that mentions power fluid 821..Wouldn't a UTF powerfluid 821 compatible work?

thanks


#5

BlazNT

BlazNT

This is what Eaton says:
Fluid Selection
Premium grade petroleum based hydraulic fluidswill provide the
best performance in Eaton hydraulic components. These fluids
typically contain additives that are beneficialtohydraulic systems.
Eaton recommends fluids that contain anti-wear agents, rust
inhibitors, anti-foamingagents, andoxidationinhibitors.Premium
grade petroleum based hydraulic fluids carry an ISO VG rating.
SAE grade crankcase oils may be used in systems that employ
Eaton hydraulic components, but it should be noted that these
oils may not contain all of the recommended additives. This
means using crankcase oils may increase fluid maintenance
requirements.
Hydraulic fluids that contain V.I. (viscosity index) improvers,
sometimes called multi-viscosity oils, may be used in systems
that employ Eaton hydraulic components. These V.I. improved
fluids are known to “shear-down” with use. This means that their
actual viscosity drops below the rated value. Fluid maintenance
must be increased if V.I. improved fluids are used. Automotive
automatic transmission fluids contain V.I. improvers.
Synthetic fluids may be used in Eaton hydraulic components. A
reputable fluid supplier can provide information on synthetic
fluids. Reviewapplications thatrequire the use of synthetic fluids
with your Eaton representative.


#6

Gorrillasnot

Gorrillasnot

Thanks BlazNT

It seems hard to find a reasonable priced compatible fluid in quart size. Most of the tractor supply and auto parts stores have 2 gallon and up sizes and the simplicity dealer I spoke with said I only need 21oz. ugh!
The best price I have found so far is a 2 gallon Cam2 303 fluid for $10, but I am not sure if it would be compatible?

thanks


#7

BlazNT

BlazNT

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Te...31149043602412472034&affillinktype=10&veh=aff
This is a replacement for the oil you are looking for. They do not make the older stuff anymore.


#8

Gorrillasnot

Gorrillasnot

thanks BlazNT

Its just a shame that they don't sell it in quarts or even gallons.



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