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D140 Transmission Replacement Labor
#1
L
lenolaroad
L
lenolaroad
Hey Everybody,
I broke something on the left rear axle of my D140 when I went through a grassy ditch more quickly than intended. The day after mowing I found a considerable amount of tan oil under the mower and oil and dirt on the inside of the tire and wheel where apparently some leaked while I was finishing. A local repair technician told me the repair kit for the damage I did is about $500 and a new transmission is about $700 and he recommends the new transmission as my mower has 97 hours on it. I found a JD dealer on eBay who had three MIA10910 transmissions for $550/free ship. I bought one and am curious as to how many hours labor should I expect to pay to have it installed? I don't know if this is a two hour job or a six hour job and need some coaching. I posted a medium rez photo in case that's of any value. Thanks for the help. I'm a "weekender" as a builder buddy likes to call amateurs but have learned a lot on topics posted here an appreciate the time you guys take to post and respond.
Hope everybody has a Merry Christmas,
Steve
I broke something on the left rear axle of my D140 when I went through a grassy ditch more quickly than intended. The day after mowing I found a considerable amount of tan oil under the mower and oil and dirt on the inside of the tire and wheel where apparently some leaked while I was finishing. A local repair technician told me the repair kit for the damage I did is about $500 and a new transmission is about $700 and he recommends the new transmission as my mower has 97 hours on it. I found a JD dealer on eBay who had three MIA10910 transmissions for $550/free ship. I bought one and am curious as to how many hours labor should I expect to pay to have it installed? I don't know if this is a two hour job or a six hour job and need some coaching. I posted a medium rez photo in case that's of any value. Thanks for the help. I'm a "weekender" as a builder buddy likes to call amateurs but have learned a lot on topics posted here an appreciate the time you guys take to post and respond.
Hope everybody has a Merry Christmas,
Steve
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#2
sdsra
sdsra
Steve, I don't know about the D model but I have an LX and an STX and I have changed both in less than an hours time on each and that was never changing one before. There are only 4 bolts holding the transaxle to the frame and you disconnect the linkage to the gear shift and to the brake and take off your belt and disconnect some wires and that is it. I'm sure some of the other guys on here know a lot more about it than I do and can help you better than me, but this should help you out some....Bob:confused2:
#3
exotion
exotion
Should replace transmission because of 94 hours...? I say sell the machine and buy a better one
#4
Carscw
Carscw
Good ole junk Deere.
After 97 hours it should not have broke even if you used it to jump over a house.
I would have found a $100 used donor mower.
As has been said very easy to replace. Just take a good look at how it sits in the frame and you will see there is not much to it.
After 97 hours it should not have broke even if you used it to jump over a house.
I would have found a $100 used donor mower.
As has been said very easy to replace. Just take a good look at how it sits in the frame and you will see there is not much to it.
#5
M
mullins87
M
mullins87
Those mowers should have come with a 2 year/200 hour warranty. Are you outside the 2 year period?
#6
L
lenolaroad
I'm not the original owner. Excellent thought. I appreciate the suggestion.
L
lenolaroad
Those mowers should have come with a 2 year/200 hour warranty. Are you outside the 2 year period?
I'm not the original owner. Excellent thought. I appreciate the suggestion.
#7
reynoldston
Boy you are fast.
reynoldston
Steve, I don't know about the D model but I have an LX and an STX and I have changed both in less than an hours time on each and that was never changing one before. There are only 4 bolts holding the transaxle to the frame and you disconnect the linkage to the gear shift and to the brake and take off your belt and disconnect some wires and that is it. I'm sure some of the other guys on here know a lot more about it than I do and can help you better than me, but this should help you out some....Bob:confused2:
Boy you are fast.
#8
M
mullins87
Luckily I've never had to make a warranty claim on anything other than a small electronic device or an automobile. Isn't the warranty transferrable? Do you have to provide proof you are the original owner? The LA175 listed in my stats had a bad battery when I bought it. I didn't buy it at the JD dealer either. I took the battery and serial number to the dealer, they ran the number and handed me a new battery, no questions asked and with no id. to prove I was the owner. The service center can simply run the serial number to get the in service date of the original owner, and the hour meter shows how much use it has seen. Hopefully one of these factory reps here can answer these questions.
M
mullins87
I'm not the original owner. Excellent thought. I appreciate the suggestion.
Luckily I've never had to make a warranty claim on anything other than a small electronic device or an automobile. Isn't the warranty transferrable? Do you have to provide proof you are the original owner? The LA175 listed in my stats had a bad battery when I bought it. I didn't buy it at the JD dealer either. I took the battery and serial number to the dealer, they ran the number and handed me a new battery, no questions asked and with no id. to prove I was the owner. The service center can simply run the serial number to get the in service date of the original owner, and the hour meter shows how much use it has seen. Hopefully one of these factory reps here can answer these questions.
#9
L
lenolaroad
L
lenolaroad
You definitely sent me back to the warranty documentation in the slim hope I'd be covered but it says original purchasers for 24 months or 120 hours on the 100 series.
The comment about being able to jump the house and it not fail is pretty painful because the incline on the ditch in my front yard doesn't seem like it would inflict that kind of damage but I must have hit it just right. I go about 250 lbs and apparently had just enough speed and mass to break a seal when I went from driving down to driving back up the other side. I'm using the push mower in the ditch from now on. I got a great deal on the tractor but this tranny repair is going to cost me half the mower cost and I've already had to replace idler pulleys earlier in the summer. The kick is I take really good care of my vehicles and small engine tools and just got a bad break on this one. I'm hoping I can get the original transmission repaired and resell it to recoup some of my dough.
As far as the labor goes I sent notes to three guys on Craigslist who represented themselves as Deere technicians to get quotes. We'll see what they come back with over the next few days.
Thanks again to everyone who posted in an effort to help. I appreciate your time and contribution.
Merry Christmas,
Steve
The comment about being able to jump the house and it not fail is pretty painful because the incline on the ditch in my front yard doesn't seem like it would inflict that kind of damage but I must have hit it just right. I go about 250 lbs and apparently had just enough speed and mass to break a seal when I went from driving down to driving back up the other side. I'm using the push mower in the ditch from now on. I got a great deal on the tractor but this tranny repair is going to cost me half the mower cost and I've already had to replace idler pulleys earlier in the summer. The kick is I take really good care of my vehicles and small engine tools and just got a bad break on this one. I'm hoping I can get the original transmission repaired and resell it to recoup some of my dough.
As far as the labor goes I sent notes to three guys on Craigslist who represented themselves as Deere technicians to get quotes. We'll see what they come back with over the next few days.
Thanks again to everyone who posted in an effort to help. I appreciate your time and contribution.
Merry Christmas,
Steve
#10
reynoldston
reynoldston
How can anyone quote a price to repair something or know what parts it needs without taking it apart. I have been doing this work for years now and I will tell I can't do it. Just maybe a snap came off the axle end and the axle came out. Cost less then 1 dollar + labor. It sure looks to me like someone wants to get into your shorts.
#11
reynoldston
reynoldston
Oh by the way I don't buy the 1 hour transmission change.
#12
Carscw
I agree with you on most things.
But I can change out a transaxle on a riding mower in under a hour.
Carscw
Oh by the way I don't buy the 1 hour transmission change.
I agree with you on most things.
But I can change out a transaxle on a riding mower in under a hour.
#13
exotion
Ya its a few bolts and a belt lol
exotion
I agree with you on most things.
But I can change out a transaxle on a riding mower in under a hour.
Ya its a few bolts and a belt lol
#14
PJ
Hi
Is the Technician saying that the transmission is damage beyond repair and what exactly broke for him to suggest replacement? If so one would need mor info before replacing the complete transmision
PJ
PJ
Hey Everybody, I broke something on the left rear axle of my D140 when I went through a grassy ditch more quickly than intended. The day after mowing I found a considerable amount of tan oil under the mower and oil and dirt on the inside of the tire and wheel where apparently some leaked while I was finishing. A local repair technician told me the repair kit for the damage I did is about $500 and a new transmission is about $700 and he recommends the new transmission as my mower has 97 hours on it. I found a JD dealer on eBay who had three MIA10910 transmissions for $550/free ship. I bought one and am curious as to how many hours labor should I expect to pay to have it installed? I don't know if this is a two hour job or a six hour job and need some coaching. I posted a medium rez photo in case that's of any value. Thanks for the help. I'm a "weekender" as a builder buddy likes to call amateurs but have learned a lot on topics posted here an appreciate the time you guys take to post and respond. Hope everybody has a Merry Christmas, Steve
Hi
Is the Technician saying that the transmission is damage beyond repair and what exactly broke for him to suggest replacement? If so one would need mor info before replacing the complete transmision
PJ
#15
reynoldston
One thing I would never do is quote time. I find in this type of work things can go wrong. Yes two tractors side by side and everything go's right maybe with a experience mechanic. Just what do you know personally about this OP that I don't to say he can change this trans axle in less then 1 hour? I have see some cob jobs in my years also. One of the things I would do on a job like this is take the transmission from the broken tractor apart seeing it has such few hours on it. Then does this OP own a salvage yard to just exchange the trans axle with another tractor? I find myself that I can just spend hours just looking for parts. Then for me I am looking at a two hour round trip drive to the salvage yard with another few hours at the salvage yard looking for a trans axle. To change a transaxle in less then one hour is a BS story. The last one I replaced was a new one from the dealer and it took the dealer over a week to get it because he had to order it. I also recall that job was close to a 1000 dollars and that was on a JD. Lets live in the real world here.
reynoldston
I agree with you on most things.
But I can change out a transaxle on a riding mower in under a hour.
One thing I would never do is quote time. I find in this type of work things can go wrong. Yes two tractors side by side and everything go's right maybe with a experience mechanic. Just what do you know personally about this OP that I don't to say he can change this trans axle in less then 1 hour? I have see some cob jobs in my years also. One of the things I would do on a job like this is take the transmission from the broken tractor apart seeing it has such few hours on it. Then does this OP own a salvage yard to just exchange the trans axle with another tractor? I find myself that I can just spend hours just looking for parts. Then for me I am looking at a two hour round trip drive to the salvage yard with another few hours at the salvage yard looking for a trans axle. To change a transaxle in less then one hour is a BS story. The last one I replaced was a new one from the dealer and it took the dealer over a week to get it because he had to order it. I also recall that job was close to a 1000 dollars and that was on a JD. Lets live in the real world here.
#16
D
dleebold
D
dleebold
Transmission: Kanzaki Tuff Torq T40How can anyone quote a price to repair something or know what parts it needs without taking it apart. I have been doing this work for years now and I will tell I can't do it. Just maybe a snap came off the axle end and the axle came out. Cost less then 1 dollar + labor. It sure looks to me like someone wants to get into your shorts.
#17
sdsra
You don't have to come on here with your smart a-- remarks, all I can say is you must really work slow and don't come back with another remark because I won't be back on here again.
sdsra
Boy you are fast.
You don't have to come on here with your smart a-- remarks, all I can say is you must really work slow and don't come back with another remark because I won't be back on here again.
#18
reynoldston
Good for you fast boy. I do see work like that, fast and poor quality. Back in my younger years we called it flat rate and yes I did work for some shops like that. Get the job done and go to the next one. Change all the transmissions you want in a 1 hour time but it isn't going to happen in my shop. By the way also I will come here all I want and if you don't like it don't read it.
reynoldston
You don't have to come on here with your smart a-- remarks, all I can say is you must really work slow and don't come back with another remark because I won't be back on here again.
Good for you fast boy. I do see work like that, fast and poor quality. Back in my younger years we called it flat rate and yes I did work for some shops like that. Get the job done and go to the next one. Change all the transmissions you want in a 1 hour time but it isn't going to happen in my shop. By the way also I will come here all I want and if you don't like it don't read it.
#19
sdsra
Dear Reynoldston, If you read my words correctly you would see I didn't suggest you not coming back to this site. through out my life I have run into a few persons like you that think they are god ( small letters )all I did was try to help another person on the forum to solve a problem and you jump all over me, I am not a mechanic and don't claim to be but I did change a transaxle in less than an hour, there is nothing technical about doing that so if it takes you longer then you must be slow and ripping off your customer. Have another cup of coffee and Reynoldston, go lay down in a corner and lick your nutz.
sdsra
Good for you fast boy. I do see work like that, fast and poor quality. Back in my younger years we called it flat rate and yes I did work for some shops like that. Get the job done and go to the next one. Change all the transmissions you want in a 1 hour time but it isn't going to happen in my shop. By the way also I will come here all I want and if you don't like it don't read it.
Dear Reynoldston, If you read my words correctly you would see I didn't suggest you not coming back to this site. through out my life I have run into a few persons like you that think they are god ( small letters )all I did was try to help another person on the forum to solve a problem and you jump all over me, I am not a mechanic and don't claim to be but I did change a transaxle in less than an hour, there is nothing technical about doing that so if it takes you longer then you must be slow and ripping off your customer. Have another cup of coffee and Reynoldston, go lay down in a corner and lick your nutz.
#20
Carscw
I am thinking he can change it out in a hour but he is adding all his time up.
Talking to the owner Picking up the mower. Finding a rearend. Finding tools and so on.
It really is a easy job. I would think with a shop with a lift and air tools I could shave 10 mins off my time of 40 mins.
Carscw
Dear Reynoldston, If you read my words correctly you would see I didn't suggest you not coming back to this site. through out my life I have run into a few persons like you that think they are god ( small letters )all I did was try to help another person on the forum to solve a problem and you jump all over me, I am not a mechanic and don't claim to be but I did change a transaxle in less than an hour, there is nothing technical about doing that so if it takes you longer then you must be slow and ripping off your customer. Have another cup of coffee and Reynoldston, go lay down in a corner and lick your nutz.
I am thinking he can change it out in a hour but he is adding all his time up.
Talking to the owner Picking up the mower. Finding a rearend. Finding tools and so on.
It really is a easy job. I would think with a shop with a lift and air tools I could shave 10 mins off my time of 40 mins.
#21
PJ
Gentleman
This is not how a forum is build but rather broken down Now REYNOLDSTON & SDSRA we can and will always differ from each other. What the hel man! we all trying to help some other person. Let him decide what is good or bad and he will use what he needs
Thanks keep the good spirit up
PJ
PJ
Good for you fast boy. I do see work like that, fast and poor quality. Back in my younger years we called it flat rate and yes I did work for some shops like that. Get the job done and go to the next one. Change all the transmissions you want in a 1 hour time but it isn't going to happen in my shop. By the way also I will come here all I want and if you don't like it don't read it.
Gentleman
This is not how a forum is build but rather broken down Now REYNOLDSTON & SDSRA we can and will always differ from each other. What the hel man! we all trying to help some other person. Let him decide what is good or bad and he will use what he needs
Thanks keep the good spirit up
PJ
#22
reynoldston
Them ripped off customers can take a trip down to PA. and don't come a bother me I don't need or want them. I thought you were a big person and not come back and read what I had to say. Too much for you wasn't it. Yes I am god if that is what you want to believe. You think I am jumping all over you but I could care less what you think. Yes if ever thing go's right, all the right parts are there, its a small job. No one is going to quote time to me, even you. You win with the name calling because you are a lot better at it.
reynoldston
Dear Reynoldston, If you read my words correctly you would see I didn't suggest you not coming back to this site. through out my life I have run into a few persons like you that think they are god ( small letters )all I did was try to help another person on the forum to solve a problem and you jump all over me, I am not a mechanic and don't claim to be but I did change a transaxle in less than an hour, there is nothing technical about doing that so if it takes you longer then you must be slow and ripping off your customer. Have another cup of coffee and Reynoldston, go lay down in a corner and lick your nutz.
Them ripped off customers can take a trip down to PA. and don't come a bother me I don't need or want them. I thought you were a big person and not come back and read what I had to say. Too much for you wasn't it. Yes I am god if that is what you want to believe. You think I am jumping all over you but I could care less what you think. Yes if ever thing go's right, all the right parts are there, its a small job. No one is going to quote time to me, even you. You win with the name calling because you are a lot better at it.
#23
T
tom-ky
Read the last line.
A. GENERAL PROVISIONS The warranties described below are provided by Deere & Company (笛ohn Deere? to the original purchasers of new Turf & Utility Equipment (摘quipment? from John Deere or authorized John Deere dealers. Under these warranties, John Deere will repair or replace, at its option, any covered part which is found to be defective in material or workmanship during the applicable warranty term. Warranty service must be performed by a dealer or service center authorized by John Deere to sell and/or service the type of Equipment involved, which will use only new or remanufactured parts or components furnished by John Deere. Warranty service will be performed without charge to the purchaser for parts or labor. The purchaser will be responsible, however, for any service call and/or transportation of product to and from the dealer痴 or service center痴 place of business, for any premium charged for overtime labor requested by the purchaser, and for any service and/or maintenance not directly related to any defect covered under the warranties below. These warranties are transferable, provided an authorized John Deere dealer is notified of the ownership change, and John Deere approves the transfer.
T
tom-ky
I'm not the original owner. Excellent thought. I appreciate the suggestion.
Read the last line.
A. GENERAL PROVISIONS The warranties described below are provided by Deere & Company (笛ohn Deere? to the original purchasers of new Turf & Utility Equipment (摘quipment? from John Deere or authorized John Deere dealers. Under these warranties, John Deere will repair or replace, at its option, any covered part which is found to be defective in material or workmanship during the applicable warranty term. Warranty service must be performed by a dealer or service center authorized by John Deere to sell and/or service the type of Equipment involved, which will use only new or remanufactured parts or components furnished by John Deere. Warranty service will be performed without charge to the purchaser for parts or labor. The purchaser will be responsible, however, for any service call and/or transportation of product to and from the dealer痴 or service center痴 place of business, for any premium charged for overtime labor requested by the purchaser, and for any service and/or maintenance not directly related to any defect covered under the warranties below. These warranties are transferable, provided an authorized John Deere dealer is notified of the ownership change, and John Deere approves the transfer.
#24
reynoldston
I don't agree with the one hour transmission change. As far as I can see someone is talking through there hat here. Too many things can go wrong to quoit a time like that. You can get mad like SDSRA but I will not back down on this. Now we are talking about a start to finish job here. First thing is why are we changing the transmission instead of repairing it? next thing are the two transmissions the same? are the wheels stuck on the axles? will all the bolts and nuts in good shape. SDSRA said he didn't do this as a living but I have and I find things can go wrong. It just sounds simple 4 bolts, belt, linkage, well good luck with that.
reynoldston
Gentleman
This is not how a forum is build but rather broken down Now REYNOLDSTON & SDSRA we can and will always differ from each other. What the hel man! we all trying to help some other person. Let him decide what is good or bad and he will use what he needs
Thanks keep the good spirit up
PJ
I don't agree with the one hour transmission change. As far as I can see someone is talking through there hat here. Too many things can go wrong to quoit a time like that. You can get mad like SDSRA but I will not back down on this. Now we are talking about a start to finish job here. First thing is why are we changing the transmission instead of repairing it? next thing are the two transmissions the same? are the wheels stuck on the axles? will all the bolts and nuts in good shape. SDSRA said he didn't do this as a living but I have and I find things can go wrong. It just sounds simple 4 bolts, belt, linkage, well good luck with that.
#25
PJ
Hi Reynoldston
You are probably right and I read in your behavior and knowledge that you still have pride in your work. Do not find lots of such kind around any more. I know for a fact there is people around that can and will do it in an hour , good for them. I know it will probably take me a week to do this. I will during the exercise find other problems and sort that out as well
Kind regards
PJ
PJ
I don't agree with the one hour transmission change. As far as I can see someone is talking through there hat here. Too many things can go wrong to quoit a time like that. You can get mad like SDSRA but I will not back down on this. Now we are talking about a start to finish job here. First thing is why are we changing the transmission instead of repairing it? next thing are the two transmissions the same? are the wheels stuck on the axles? will all the bolts and nuts in good shape. SDSRA said he didn't do this as a living but I have and I find things can go wrong. It just sounds simple 4 bolts, belt, linkage, well good luck with that.
Hi Reynoldston
You are probably right and I read in your behavior and knowledge that you still have pride in your work. Do not find lots of such kind around any more. I know for a fact there is people around that can and will do it in an hour , good for them. I know it will probably take me a week to do this. I will during the exercise find other problems and sort that out as well
Kind regards
PJ