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A-C Cab

#1

Craftsman13

Craftsman13

What do you guys think of an air conditioned cab that goes on a riding mower?:smile:


#2

Parkmower

Parkmower

I'd love one


#3

reynoldston

reynoldston

I hope you are talking about a different mower them that craftsman. By the time you install a air conditioner compressor and then mow grass in the hot Florida weather you are going to need more tractor then that craftsman. You will cook that air cooled engine that is if it has enough power to run it all.


#4

Carscw

Carscw

Am I missing something if a craftsman and a JD run the same model engine are they not the same or does Briggs not make the one that goes on the craftsman as good Aa the one on the JD

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#5

reynoldston

reynoldston

Am I missing something if a craftsman and a JD run the same model engine are they not the same or does Briggs not make the one that goes on the craftsman as good Aa the one on the JD

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Are you talking about a air conditioning unit? Just news to me what any company installed air conditioning on any small garden tractor. But just because I never heard of it doesn't make it a fact. Now you are saying a JD with a air cooled B&S engine has a AC and cab and on a 100 series. Now lets compare tractor to tractor.


#6

Carscw

Carscw

I did not say any mower had AC. I guess what I am asking is why do you say a craftsman can not handle it? Is the Briggs 20hp on the craftsman not the same as the Briggs 20hp on any other mower

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#7

reynoldston

reynoldston

Without getting deeper but a AC takes a lot of power to run it as to how much I don't know. Compare two cars with and without. The car with has a heavy duty cooling system. I am saying ANY small air cooled engine would be too much to run a AC, mow heavy grass on a very hot day. Yes they do install AC units on tractors but not on a 20 HP air cooled engine. You will find them on the larger farm tractors. OK seeing I have never seen it done or heard of it before you must be right and I would say go for it because I am just guessing on this.


#8

Carscw

Carscw

reynoldston said:
I hope you are talking about a different mower them that craftsman. By the time you install a air conditioner compressor and then mow grass in the hot Florida weather you are going to need more tractor then that craftsman. You will cook that air cooled engine that is if it has enough power to run it all.

I know all about AC But in your post you made it sound like he could not put AC on his mower because it is a craftsman

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#9

reynoldston

reynoldston

I know all about AC But in your post you made it sound like he could not put AC on his mower because it is a craftsman

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Being a craftsman has nothing to do with it. But what has, is any small air cooled engine which could be in any peace of equipment.. I am also saying working it hard on a very hot day and a AC would put it over the limit. I have found on my Wheel House that my tractor has less power then my son-in laws and the only difference is mine is a hydro and his a standard trans. You will find any accessories take power to run from a light to a AC unit.


#10

F

fastback

We are trying to address a couple of questions. As for engine quality manufactures have several models of the same hp. As for one being better than the other it would be whether they are the same model and not just the same hp. Of these some are made to last while the others are almost throw away with a short term life.

As for AC it takes hp to run an ac compressor, it is doubtful that a 20 hp air cooled could do all operations like motion, cooling and cutting.

The difference between JD and Craftsman is that Craftsman only make very limited sizes of tractors. JD on the other hand goes brom lawn tractors to full size farm and industrial tractors with powerful engines. So I'm sure that some of these will and do have AC. This is how I interperted Reynoldson's statement and I agree.

Just another opinion.


#11

Carscw

Carscw

I have done a lot of research on this. First off the engine can handle it but not sure of a good way to mount and add pulleys. The big issue is I am not sure the charging system can handle running the blower Motor

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#12

reynoldston

reynoldston

I have done a lot of research on this. First off the engine can handle it but not sure of a good way to mount and add pulleys. The big issue is I am not sure the charging system can handle running the blower Motor

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If you did your research you know more then I on this because I didn't. I wouldn't even know where to do such research? Now I didn't think that mounting a pulley would would be that bad. I was thinking something off the flywheel and all you would need is a small blower motor. Now your research in on a good 100+ degree Florida day with a full heavy lawn of grass and you say a 20 HP air cooled engine will also run a AC compressor also your generating more electric to run blower fan. Now maybe with just standard 5W30 oil in the engine also. Maybe I would recommend a oil cooler. Good luck on that one.


#13

Carscw

Carscw

One man I talked to said could run a electric motor off of a electric water pump

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#14

reynoldston

reynoldston

One man I talked to said could run a electric motor off of a electric water pump

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You got me on that one? Where is the electric water pump on a 20 HP B&S air cooled engine? I didn't know that Craftsman had any water cooled engines. Now we are talking about installing a AC unit on a Craftsman not a John Deere. I am learning more all the time.


#15

Carscw

Carscw

Ok read my post one more time I said a electric water pump I did not say the electric water pump that is on the mower as we all know that a air cooled engine does not have a water pump. But now most race cars run a electric water pump or you could even get a 3hp 12 volt motor to run it. But not once did I say a 20hp Briggs air cooled had a water pump

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#16

reynoldston

reynoldston

Ok read my post one more time I said a electric water pump I did not say the electric water pump that is on the mower as we all know that a air cooled engine does not have a water pump. But now most race cars run a electric water pump or you could even get a 3hp 12 volt motor to run it. But not once did I say a 20hp Briggs air cooled had a water pump

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Just got me confused here. Just didn't understand where the electric water pump come into play when we were talking air cooled. I just thought you were talking about a water cooled engine? I am still very confused as to what you are saying. You are way over my head when you are saying one electric motor will run another electric motor. I would also think that a 3 HP motor would be one large motor seeing I worked on electric fork trucks for ten years and know motor sizes. I hve gotten way over my head on this one???


#17

Carscw

Carscw

Either way it just seams to me would just be to much work to add a cab and AC to a riding mower. Now it might be fun to do just to say you did it if you have the time and money to waste. I guess if you ( not saying you ) can not cut your grass in the heat you ( again not saying you ) should pay some one to cut it for you or don't live in the south

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#18

reynoldston

reynoldston

Either way it just seams to me would just be to much work to add a cab and AC to a riding mower. Now it might be fun to do just to say you did it if you have the time and money to waste. I guess if you ( not saying you ) can not cut your grass in the heat you ( again not saying you ) should pay some one to cut it for you or don't live in the south

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Boy do you have it right on the money there. Couldn't say it any better myself.


#19

C

Cokeorcoffee

I hate to bust your bubbles on the A/C unit for your lawn mowers, but it makes no difference if it's a JD, Sears, Toro, Cub Cadet, etc, etc, if your tractor is 30 HP and you have a seventy two inch deck, your grass is a tad bit tall, your charging system is at the most fifteen to eighteen amps. The clutch on the compressor is about five amps, the cluth for the deck is about the same. NOW, we add a blower for the evaporator and we also add a fan/blower for the condensing unit. For both of those, we are at about twenty five + amps, ....ooops, we just crashed the charging system. So, now it's off to the parts store for a retro fit GM sixty three amp alternator. NOW, much to your suprise, that alternator requires about seven HP, along with the compressor (an axial unit draws about eight to twelve HP) we are up to about sixteen HP. The operating system of a mower (transmission) uses about six or seven HP to propel my fat butt around. Now, we are up to about twenty two Hp. This leaves about eight HP to run a seventy two inch deck. You swith on the clutch that powers the deck and head out to mow. The blades hit the first few feet of grass and all of a sudden, the engine kills like someone stuch a crowbar inbetween the crankshaft and block. We sit in the cab, (now getting warm) and say to ourself, WTF? My push mower with a twenty one inch deck has a six and one half HP engine .... you might be able to reduce your deck size to about a twenty three inch deck and stay cool and mow. OR, you can go buy a fifteen ft Bush Hog batwing mower. http://www.bushhog.com/images/stories/documents/manuals/2615 2610earlyparts.pdf ... OK, just scratch build one with a ninety inch deck and use a small block Chevy :biggrin:
Nuff said! :tongue:


#20

D

dogon1013

you could just mount a few of these around you. they are batery powered.
Amazon.com: Small Fan & Mini-Air Conditioner: The Original Handy Cooler in Blue. Portable and convenient. Runs on batteries or USB. Cools air up to 30F.: Computers & Accessories


Or here is a 12 volt unit designed for use in an airplane cab. It claims it will cool for 1.5 hours. (I think it may use ice to cool the air)
http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Portable-Airplane-Conditioner-Volt/dp/B005UZYHF4


and here is a simple $40 unit that attaches to a cooler that you fill with ice.
http://www.amazon.com/12-Volt-Portable-Air-Conditioner/dp/B001448O9K/ref=pd_sim_sbs_sg_3


There is really no need to get a whole car style AC unit with compressor/evaporator/coolant that would strain the electrical system. These Ice based units should work long enough for most lawn mowing jobs.


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