Toro Titan ZX4800 w/Kohler Confidant 21 hp Engine

I grew up always checking the oil on any equipment, before each use. Dad taught me that, or he'd kick my butt as a kid growing up.

Will let you know, once I get a good inspection done & we talk serious numbers.

7394 said:

I grew up always checking the oil on any equipment, before each use. Dad taught me that, or he'd kick my butt as a kid growing up.

Will let you know, once I get a good inspection done & we talk serious numbers.

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LOL, we must be related. My Dad was the same way. At least if we commit any serious crimes we can claim "mitigating circumstances" because we were "abused" at a young age...:laughing::laughing::laughing:
Bruce

Bruce- I knew there had to be more taught as I was. :laughing: It was a lesson I have never forgot. Which looking back about 1/2 a century, I'm glad he taught me right. :thumbsup:


Scott- After the 3 mows, how does it seem to be on using gas ? Course it will improve as you get it broke-in, but just curious, my current Toro TimeCutter has a Kawasaki.

OK, definitely 2016 model(s). They still have 8 of them left from their truck load, 6 still in shipping boxes. I test ran one today. I like it.

Cash price is $3799. (to me). But I'm negotiating to work my Timecutter into the deal. We are about $300. apart as of today.

I know the Owner & he would like to get mine to replace his personal much older base model TimeCutter, cause mine has all the bells & whistles + Kaw engine, totally documented, & still has a year of warranty left with only about 60 hours on the meter.

7394 said:

Bruce- I knew there had to be more taught as I was. :laughing: It was a lesson I have never forgot. Which looking back about 1/2 a century, I'm glad he taught me right. :thumbsup:


Scott- After the 3 mows, how does it seem to be on using gas ? Course it will improve as you get it broke-in, but just curious, my current Toro TimeCutter has a Kawasaki.

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I was able to cut my lawn 4 times (3.8 hours on the meter) and still had a little left. Not a lot, but enough where it didn't run out of gas.

Scott

7394 said:

OK, definitely 2016 model(s). They still have 8 of them left from their truck load, 6 still in shipping boxes. I test ran one today. I like it.

Cash price is $3799. (to me). But I'm negotiating to work my Timecutter into the deal. We are about $300. apart as of today.

I know the Owner & he would like to get mine to replace his personal much older base model TimeCutter, cause mine has all the bells & whistles + Kaw engine, totally documented, & still has a year of warranty left with only about 60 hours on the meter.

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That's a great price. $200 less than what I paid.

Thanks for info on your usage. Sounds good. Soon you will be ready for the early oil change, it's 10 hours on my Kaw.

The price point is moot, since I will only do the deal with mine in trade. I've been studying the engine

The Confidant is a fairly new Engine from Kohler, announced on Oct 21, 2013 to be ready for 2014 & going, latest versions have EFI.


Kohler Engines introduces its Confidant engine series. This vertical-shaft, V-twin engine line was carefully designed to meet the unique needs of both commercial equipment users and property owners.

• Encompasses four models ranging from 19 to 25 hp
• Recoil and electric start options are available,
• Can be easily customized by OEMs for a variety of applications, including wide-area walk-behind and stand-on mowers, ZTRs, and high-end garden tractors
• Includes cast-iron cylinder liner to protect the engine in extreme operating conditions, dual-seal air filter to keep debris out of the engine; and high-torque inertia drive started with extra-large output for quick, reliable starting
• Pressure lubrication keeps critical parts protected
• Features Kohler’s PRO Performance Filtration package, a heavy-duty professional filtration bundle that includes a 3,500 cm[SUP]2[/SUP] air filter, a 6.5 gram oil filter, and a 9-12 micron fuel filter
• Includes Quiet Cam technology which consists of a rounded cam lobe and solid nylon gear that work together to help reduce sound levels
• Optional cyclonic air filter is a heavy-duty filter that provides multiple stages of filtration for engine protection
• Cyclonic filter screens air at the intake port, then enters a cleaning chamber where it is circulated in a rapid, cyclonic motion to remove larger contaminants
• Specialty filter, which can be used in combination with a pre-cleaner, then removes any remaining contaminants to ensure only clean air enters the engine
• High-impact nylon shroud and valve cover protect internal components when mowing around bushes and branches, and chopper grass screen guard prevents grass and debris build-up

Thanks for all of the info on the Kohler.

Ur welcome Scott.

Scott S said:

I have just under an acre of mostly level grass to cut.

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Hi, I was in a a similar situation wondering what to get for my lawn. (I have just under an acre as well.) Earlier this spring, I wound up buying the Toro Titan MX4800 (like the ZX, but with wider tires and a suspension seat)

I used to use a push mower that took me hours to mow. I gave that up and had a contractor mow my lawn for a couple of years. But, I was never really happy with two things: 1) The timing of when it was mowed to coordinate watering and fertilizer treatments, and 2) the quality of the job. Now mowing it by myself this season, I have the best looking lawn in the neighborhood! I mow it when I want with hardly any effort and time. I find it a joy now! It is actually fun to do and I find it to be a major stress reliever from my hectic day job. It was worth the extra money for me.

Mine doesn't smoke at startup. I wonder if you are using too much choke? If it's hot outside, I found that the choke is not even needed. If it's cold, I just pull it up half way and then push it back down after a few seconds of starting. Also, I put the throttle at half way when turning the ignition.

I haven't paid close attention to gas usage, but the rule of thumb that I've been using seems to be holding true where I get at least 5 hours per tank.

I hope you enjoy your Toro as well!