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    Kohler or Briggs and Strattion

    The drive mechanism has blown up for the second time on my White mower and I have a bad hip; walking a 1/2 acre is okay, but dragging/pushing the mower isn't.

    I've pretty much decided on a Toro Super Recycler at my local outdoor power store. It comes with an aluminum deck, wash out port, personal pace self propelled, a real easy on/off bagger, 5 year warranty and they cover everything for 5 years, including belts and cables and sharpening my old blade once a year for the 5 years if I bring the mower in or just give my a new blade if I take the old one off and bring it in with the coupon. I know, I want to see all that in writing before I hand them my money.

    Comes down to this a 7.0 torque side valve B&S or a 7. 0 torque OHV Kohler for $30 more. I know both companies have made a lot of engines, a lot of good engines, and some junk. What is the current situation; is the B&S good, is the Kohler $30 better?

    I stand corrected; the 5 years of free blades is the Owner super advantage from Toro and it's $30 more
    Last edited by Grass ala Mowed; 02-05-2011 at 04:07 PM.

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    Re: Kohler or Briggs and Strattion

    i would choose Briggs&Stratton good long lasting easy to work on reliable Engine

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    Re: Kohler or Briggs and Strattion

    The Kohler is a much better engine. I would choose Kohler over a Briggs in a heart beat especially for only $30.

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    Re: Kohler or Briggs and Strattion

    The only Kohler I have had was on my Troy Bit tiller. Never had any problems with it, just a gummy carb after last winter. Pretty easy to work on generally speaking. Can't go wrong with briggs either.

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    Re: Kohler or Briggs and Strattion

    I am going to recommend the Kohler engine, I have gone through alot of this stuff and it seems the oldest working stuff has Kohler engines on it. Their both good though.

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    Re: Kohler or Briggs and Strattion

    I will have to agree the Kohler engine should be worth the $30 more... KennyV

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    Re: Kohler or Briggs and Strattion

    I reread the sales literature very carefully, the B&S engine claims 7 lb-ft GROSS torque, the Kohler claims 7 lb-ft NET torque. It may not be huge, but the Kohler should have a little more power. Every now and then we get 2 weeks of rain here and when it finally dries out you can't have too much power. Also the Kohler lists a cast iron cylinder and forged crankshaft and the same mower with the Kohler is 12 pounds heavier, so I think I'll go with the Kohler. My first experience with Kohler was in a John Deere 110 and the engine outlasted everything, 2 teenage boys, mowing about 5 acres, snowblowing feet of snow (upstate NY snow belt) off a 500 foot driveway for years. Transmission finally went out from speedshifting it. Did I mention 2 teenage boys?

    Thanks for the opinions.

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    Re: Kohler or Briggs and Strattion

    just curious on what the price is on the machine? russ

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    Re: Kohler or Briggs and Strattion

    Quote Originally Posted by Grass ala Mowed View Post
    The drive mechanism has blown up for the second time on my White mower and I have a bad hip; walking a 1/2 acre is okay, but dragging/pushing the mower isn't.

    I've pretty much decided on a Toro Super Recycler at my local outdoor power store. It comes with an aluminum deck, wash out port, personal pace self propelled, a real easy on/off bagger, 5 year warranty and they cover everything for 5 years, including belts and cables and sharpening my old blade once a year for the 5 years if I bring the mower in or just give my a new blade if I take the old one off and bring it in with the coupon. I know, I want to see all that in writing before I hand them my money.

    Comes down to this a 7.0 torque side valve B&S or a 7. 0 torque OHV Kohler for $30 more. I know both companies have made a lot of engines, a lot of good engines, and some junk. What is the current situation; is the B&S good, is the Kohler $30 better?

    I stand corrected; the 5 years of free blades is the Owner super advantage from Toro and it's $30 more
    For small engines, have always had Briggs or Tecumseh going back 30 years, got my first Kohler engined mower last year. Love it, will try to buy Kohler from now on...very pleased with easy starting, overall design, reliability, and power, use it hard but very strong and oil tight. Stingiest engine I have ever had for it's size with both fuel and oil. I'd pay $60-70 more for the Kohler if all other factors were even.
    "I didn't plan to do anything today, but by noon I was almost half done...."

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    Re: Kohler or Briggs and Strattion

    To 173abn, $529 with the B&S, $559 with the Kohler. The spec are identical except for the engines; Kohler mower is heavier, mentions the cast iron cylinder and forged crank and the Kohler is 7 lb-ft NET, not GROSS torque. Same wash out port, same self-propelled ground speed, same 5 year warrenty, same 5 coupons for a free blade sharpening ... Sometimes just posting something and going back and reading it makes the decision for me. Unless something really bad happens to Kohler in the next month, when I get my tax refund I'm getting the Toro Super Recycler with the Kohler engine and never looking back.

    Thanks to all for putting up with me thinking out loud on this forum and thank you for your opinions.

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